8inxp onboard lan killing my ping?!?!?!

[poMONKey]

so... i plugged my cable modem into my old computer ( has a net card ), and i have my fast pings back... i figured something was up when i loaded Q3 for the first time on my new computer, navigated to my favorite server and... BAM... the pings are twice ( + ) as high as they were on my old machine... old box: 37 ping / new box: 185 ping... same server... i have done this little experiment now for 4 months... the old computer gets the fast pings and my new gets slow, chunky sh!t pings. i swapped the NIC out of the old and put it into the new one... same pings. put a brand new NIC in the new one, same slow pings!!!! switched back to onboard, same... and... this only happens with game servers... regular downloading speeds are the same as they were on the old computer... OMFG!!!!

help... help help help!

 

[BG4533]

The pings of onboard adaptors are often worse than PCI adaptors. Dont ask me why, just seems to be so.

I would install a good PCI adaptor if you want fast pings back.

Brian

 

[poMONKey]

*NOT*

 

[igowerf]

Originally posted by: BG4533
The pings of onboard adaptors are often worse than PCI adaptors. Dont ask me why, just seems to be so.

I would install a good PCI adaptor if you want fast pings back.

Brian

Does that mean that data transfers are actually much slower with onboard NIC's? If it's just the ping that is higher, then it doesn't really matter, does it?

 

[Lord Evermore]

I imagine that blanket statement is as true as any other blanket statement. Meaning not.

Onchip (southbridge) network controllers can actually offer better performance, because they don't have to interact with the PCI bus.

The 8INXP actually doesn't use the onchip network controller though. It uses an Intel 82540 Gigabit Ethernet chip on the motherboard. This chip is connected to the PCI bus, so its performance will be EXACTLY the same as if the same chip was used on a PCI network card. You can't possibly think that an Intel network chip is causing poor performance.

The only way to find out for sure if a PCI card would make a difference is installing it (disable/uninstall the onboard LAN first of course).

Using pings to a remote server is a useless way to verify whether your network card is an issue, as at different moments the performance of remote networks can change. Pinging a local IP will determine whether there is actually any performance difference. I wouldn't suggest pinging another machine on a LAN, since most of the time the ping will be under 1ms and therefore the OS may not report the exact time. But pinging your Internet gateway should be a perfect test.

What else is different between your two machines. Do they both use the same OS?

Also, onboard LAN doesn't have any blanket performance issues as far as data throughput. I reached 70 to 80Mbps rates on our LAN using the SiS900 integrated networking of the K7S5A. The nForce2's networking is also quite good.

 

[poMONKey]

all i know is that when i went to my fav server on my NEW box, the pings were twice as high as on my old machine w/a net card... after that little test, i went BACK onto the new machine, just in case... same pings, same lag, same sh*t... unless my drivers didnt install right or something else strange is happening, i would say its the fact that the onboard lan isnt up to snuff, its yeilding BAD results.

i realize pings flux up and down... but this would be a BIG coincience if there wasnt a prob w/the onboard lan and it was just ping flux... NO WAY!

 

[thorin]

Did you do a tracert on both systems (to the sme server)? And/or a netstat /a ?

Thorin

 

[Viper96720]

Same settings for both the on board and pci one?

 

[Lord Evermore]

Tried a PCI card with the exact same Intel chipset? Comparing two different implementations, based on two different chipsets, doesn't yield a generally applicable result. The Intel chip on the board is not working in any way differently than a PCI adapter does. Any differences are due to the chipsets used and/or the drivers, or possibly the PCI bus implementations on the motherboards.

 

[poMONKey]

* BUMP *

i cant believe this is an issue... my game server pings are still HAMMERED...

help!

 

[poMONKey]

Originally posted by: thorin
Did you do a tracert on both systems (to the sme server)? And/or a netstat /a ?

Thorin

yup...

 

[poMONKey]

Originally posted by: Viper96720
Same settings for both the on board and pci one?

yup...

 

[XBoxLPU]

latest drivers ?

 

[poMONKey]

Originally posted by: XBoxLPU
latest drivers ?

yup...

 

[RGN]

I have the same issue with my Gigabyte 845PE board... Haven't figured it out yet.