8800gtx actually offers pretty good value

[SpeedZealot369]

All the benchmarks indicate that it has the same performance of 2x last gen flagship cards, so considering it probably consumes less if not the same amount of power then 2 xtx's or gtx's, it's actually pretty good value at $600 I think... Not to mention it might be a good overclocker too which is still unkown at this time.

I'd like to see 8800gt benchmarks though, might be a good SLI card

-SZ

 

[tvdang7]

true true.

 

[Modular]

This is no surprise. nVidia will also hold market share for a long, long time. By the time ATi releases R600, nVidia will be poised to launch their 8900gtx....

It's game set and match at this point.

 

[Kromis]

Oh God...if 8800GTX is a good value at $600...

I pray to God that the PS3 isn't a good value... :|

Haha, Nintendo fanboy here! I'm just trying to make references to "good values"

 

[josh6079]

Is EVGA going to allow step-ups? I'd feel pretty awful knowing that I've been suggesting people get EVGA products so as to step-up to G80 only to find out that EVGA isn't going to do it.

And just think, in ~3 months or less, it will offer an even better value/dollar.

Some said the same thing about the 7800GTX, but looking back on it the 7800's were replaced too quickly with the 7900's and I was taught that the first wave nVidia releases when there is no competition is not the most ideal time to get their new technology. But, if you have to have the best all the time...

 

[Nelsieus]

Originally posted by: josh6079
Is EVGA going to allow step-ups? I'd feel pretty awful knowing that I've been suggesting people get EVGA products so as to step-up to G80 only to find out that EVGA isn't going to do it.

And just think, in ~3 months or less, it will offer an even better value/dollar.

Some said the same thing about the 7800GTX, but looking back on it the 7800's were replaced too quickly with the 7900's and I was taught that the first wave nVidia releases when there is no competition is not the most ideal time to get their new technology. But, if you have to have the best all the time...

I disagree. It was nearly 9 months between the time the Geforce 7800GTX launched and the time the Geforce 7900GTX launched.

It was only 3 months between the time the x1800 launched and the x1900 launched (2 months if you take into consideration the x1800XT really didn't release until Nov.).

And I think the most ideal time to buy new technology is when you need it, not when something better / newer is coming out in x number of months.

Nelsieus

 

[A554SS1N]

Good value????!! Your obviously much richer than the rest of us!!

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: josh6079
Is EVGA going to allow step-ups? I'd feel pretty awful knowing that I've been suggesting people get EVGA products so as to step-up to G80 only to find out that EVGA isn't going to do it.

I hope so too. That's really one of the major reasons I bought the 7900GTO.

 

[nib95]

Originally posted by: A554SS1N
Good value????!! Your obviously much richer than the rest of us!!

Exactly.

In reality top end GPU's shouldnt even be costing $350.

 

[vhx]

Originally posted by: nib95

Originally posted by: A554SS1N
Good value????!! Your obviously much richer than the rest of us!!

Exactly.

In reality top end GPU's shouldnt even be costing $350.

I wish. People will still pay for $600 cards, and I wouldn't be the least bit suprised if they paid $1200 for 2 of them.

I will probably wait till Crysis or UT2007 is out before I make a major purchase.

 

[Nightmare225]

Originally posted by: thilan29

Originally posted by: josh6079
Is EVGA going to allow step-ups? I'd feel pretty awful knowing that I've been suggesting people get EVGA products so as to step-up to G80 only to find out that EVGA isn't going to do it.

I hope so too. That's really one of the major reasons I bought the 7900GTO.

Is the GTO applicable to be used for step-up? I thought it was EVGA's way of getting rid of G71 stock...

 

[RobertR1]

It really doesn't. If we had Vista and DX10 games out to where the card could be used for next gen performance, then you have a point.

By the time DX10 and vista roll around there will already be a refresh and the R600 out. I'll check back then. Until then, for the games I'm playing my x1900xtx does the job.

 

[nitromullet]

Originally posted by: SpeedZealot369
All the benchmarks indicate that it has the same performance of 2x last gen flagship cards, so considering it probably consumes less if not the same amount of power then 2 xtx's or gtx's, it's actually pretty good value at $600 I think... Not to mention it might be a good overclocker too which is still unkown at this time.

I'd like to see 8800gt benchmarks though, might be a good SLI card

-SZ

Nothing new though... The 7800GTX was much faster than dual 6800GT's as well. That's why people stopped buying 6800GT SLI rigs and replaced them with a single 7800GTX. The 7800GTX was $600-650 at launch also.

 

[Pugnate]

The problem is that it won't be $600.

 

[Nelsieus]

Originally posted by: Pugnate
The problem is that it won't be $600.

That's why I think nVidia is countering with a less-expensive Geforce 8800GTS ($449-$499).

Yea, that's still more than your $350 desire, but $350 is basically unrealistic for what we're discussing.

Nelsieus

 

[Conky]

At these prices it looks like I won't have DX10 for at least a year.

Vista, DX10, Halo3, Alan Wake... hmm, not worth upgrading for IMO. :thumbsdown:

 

[Nightmare225]

Originally posted by: Beachboy
At these prices it looks like I won't have DX10 for at least a year.

Vista, DX10, Halo3, Alan Wake... hmm, not worth upgrading for IMO. :thumbsdown:

Alan Wake not worth upgrading for? Have you seen any of the vids?

 

[Smartazz]

Originally posted by: Nightmare225

Originally posted by: Beachboy
At these prices it looks like I won't have DX10 for at least a year.

Vista, DX10, Halo3, Alan Wake... hmm, not worth upgrading for IMO. :thumbsdown:

Alan Wake not worth upgrading for? Have you seen any of the vids?

It's on 360 as well, but I think I'd still upgrade to get it on pc.

 

[josh6079]

I disagree. It was nearly 9 months between the time the Geforce 7800GTX launched and the time the Geforce 7900GTX launched.

Now that you mention it, I think you're right. Perhaps it just seemed too quick of a replacement to me since I didn't get the 7800GT right when it came out.

It was only 3 months between the time the x1800 launched and the x1900 launched (2 months if you take into consideration the x1800XT really didn't release until Nov.).

True, and when I say that it is going to be a better value/dollar in ~3 months, I am meaning that there will *probably* be more competition in the market since I don't think R600 is going to be another R520.

And I think the most ideal time to buy new technology is when you need it, not when something better / newer is coming out in x number of months.

True, but this thread wasn't centered around the necessity for a new product but rather its price/performance ratio. I don't think I was wrong to say that in ~3 months time the price/performance of the G80 will be even better than when it first arrives on November 8th.

 

[Nelsieus]

Originally posted by: josh6079True, and when I say that it is going to be a better value/dollar in ~3 months, I am meaning that there will *probably* be more competition in the market since I don't think R600 is going to be another R520.

Neither do I, but I also don't think R600 will be out in 3 months.

Originally posted by: josh6079
True, but this thread wasn't centered around the necessity for a new product but rather its price/performance ratio. I don't think I was wrong to say that in ~3 months time the price/performance of the G80 will be even better than when it first arrives on November 8th.

Well then why not wait until the month before G90 comes out to find the best price/performance ratio...

You shouldn't underestimate the value of actually getting a card and being able to game, while others play the wait game.

Nelsieus

 

[JBT]

$599 is not a "good value" for a single component of a computer especially for the horrid return you get when reselling video cards.
I paid $425 for my X1900XT close to when they were released. I don't see myself paying another $175 on top of that for any video card.

 

[josh6079]

Well then why not wait until the month before G90 comes out to find the best price/performance ratio...

There's quite a difference between ~3 months and ~2-3 years.

You shouldn't underestimate the value of actually getting a card and being able to game, while others play the wait game.

When did I ever underestimate that? I know how important it is to be able to have a card when they say it will be available and don't have a problem voicing my disappointment to companies when they don't deliver. "Actually getting" an 8800GTX entails a cost that some would rather not spend. However, if the OP was talking more about the 8800GTS, or GT, that'd be a different story.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: Nelsieus

Originally posted by: josh6079
Is EVGA going to allow step-ups? I'd feel pretty awful knowing that I've been suggesting people get EVGA products so as to step-up to G80 only to find out that EVGA isn't going to do it.

And just think, in ~3 months or less, it will offer an even better value/dollar.

Some said the same thing about the 7800GTX, but looking back on it the 7800's were replaced too quickly with the 7900's and I was taught that the first wave nVidia releases when there is no competition is not the most ideal time to get their new technology. But, if you have to have the best all the time...

I disagree. It was nearly 9 months between the time the Geforce 7800GTX launched and the time the Geforce 7900GTX launched.

It was only 3 months between the time the x1800 launched and the x1900 launched (2 months if you take into consideration the x1800XT really didn't release until Nov.).

And I think the most ideal time to buy new technology is when you need it, not when something better / newer is coming out in x number of months.

Nelsieus

12 months on, and for 7800GT performance you have to pay 2/3rd the amount. So it all depends on how much you value your money, there will always be better things coming, and tech will always go down in price, so there's not a huge amount of point in holding out until it becomes better value unless you can't afford it at the start price.

 

[Nelsieus]

Originally posted by: josh6079
There's quite a difference between ~3 months and ~2-3 years.

But if 3 months isn't significant, what's to stop you from waiting another three months after you've already waited three months? Do you see where I'm going with this; 2 years is just 3 months 8 times....

Also, I edited it in my post probably after you replied, but I don't think R600 will be here in 3 months.

Originally posted by: josh6079When did I ever underestimate that? I know how important it is to be able to have a card when they say it will be available and don't have a problem voicing my disappointment to companies when they don't deliver. "Actually getting" an 8800GTX entails a cost that some would rather not spend. However, if the OP was talking more about the 8800GTS, or GT, that'd be a different story.

This is pure rhetoric that, quite frankly, doesn't really make sense.

Nelsieus

 

[A5]

A $600 card (or pair of cards) is not a value proposition, just a luxury item for people who demand the greatest performance, regardless of cost. The area where "value" comes into play is in the $99-$249 area, where you're often looking at prior generation high-end or mid-range vs. current generation mid-range and low-end.