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MarcVenice

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Some 9800gt cards are 55nm to though. At first I didn't think it was true, but it is. Some 9800gt's can hit insane clockspeeds, and rival a HD4850 in speed.

Here's one of the problems no-one in this thread has considered. Consoles. Faster videocards are nice, but if there are no engines to make use of all the horsepower the latest videocard has, what's the use of it? Why do I think not so many new engines will be out to take advantage of more graphic power then a HD4870 or gtx280 can allready offer? Well, there are very few PC only games, most devs develop for console and PC alike. PC's often get higher res textures, but besides that they don't get graphics that completely blow away the console version, this would cost to much, while most profit is made on console games.

Now, the next gen consoles aren't due for I think 4 more years, 2012.

Not saying a 8800gt will last till 2012, and that we will see no graphical improvements, it just wont be that stellar. Hence the Nvidia focus on Physx for example. Perhaps dx11 can stir things up a little, but that's it.
 

coolpurplefan

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Originally posted by: error8
Originally posted by: coolpurplefan
I read the 9800 GT has physics while the 8800 GT does not.

They both have PhysiX, so you read wrong. ;)

But what does this have to do with the thread? :confused:

Someone spoke about the 9800 GT.

 

Wag

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SLI'd 8800GT is a good deal. Almost the power of a GTX 260 for a lot less.

Eventually I'll upgrade, but with a SLI config it gives me a little bit of leeway. First the CPU, then the videocard...
 

minmaster

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i think cards like 8800GT are a great deal. at a 100 bucks, they are the perfect midrange cards to get.
 

AzN

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Originally posted by: Wag
SLI'd 8800GT is a good deal. Almost the power of a GTX 260 for a lot less.

Eventually I'll upgrade, but with a SLI config it gives me a little bit of leeway. First the CPU, then the videocard...

Almost power of GTX 260? It's more powerful than 280gtx.
 

walk2k

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I paid $280 for mine in 12/07 or so and don't regret it at all.

Great card and at 1280x1024 (no AA) which is what I play games at there isn't another card out there that will show significant real-world (non-benchmark) perceptible improvements in games even if you spend $600.
 

toyota

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Originally posted by: walk2k
I paid $280 for mine in 12/07 or so and don't regret it at all.

Great card and at 1280x1024 (no AA) which is what I play games at there isn't another card out there that will show significant real-world (non-benchmark) perceptible improvements in games even if you spend $600.
well thats not true for Clear Sky where GTX280 or 4870/4870x2 would make your 8800gt cry in comparison even at 1280.

http://www.pcgameshardware.com...nchmark_Review/?page=2

 

poohbear

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im thinking of buying a 2nd 8800gt for SLI as that seems like the most economical upgrade for the next year and a half, but im currently running a 420wt enermax psu (80% efficiency) w/ 29a on the 12v line, is that good enough to run both?(w/ the current specs in my sig, minus the 520wt corsair psu as i no longer have that)

Nvidia recommends a 450wt psu to run 8800gt in sli, so im pretty sure i'd be fine. I know psu requirements are often inflated to weed out cheap psus w/ "400 wt" ratings, and from the power usage graphs i've seen of the 8800gt, 420wt from a brandname 80% efficient psu should be enough. What do you guys think?
 

MarcVenice

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I don't even think your enermax PSU has 2 pci-e 6pin connectors, so chances of running 2 8800gt's in sli are pretty slim. And I don't think it's strong enough, coz Nvidia recommends a 450w PSU for a SINGLE 8800gt, not two in SLI. Just think of it like this, 2 8800gt's will pull 100w each, your CPU pulls 75-100w, leaving like 100w for all the other components, not enoug imo.
 

poohbear

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Originally posted by: MarcVenice
I don't even think your enermax PSU has 2 pci-e 6pin connectors, so chances of running 2 8800gt's in sli are pretty slim. And I don't think it's strong enough, coz Nvidia recommends a 450w PSU for a SINGLE 8800gt, not two in SLI. Just think of it like this, 2 8800gt's will pull 100w each, your CPU pulls 75-100w, leaving like 100w for all the other components, not enoug imo.

yep my 420wt enermax psu has 2 pci-e connectors, although my old corsair 520hx didnt, go figure.

regarding uber psu requirements for sli, I used to think the same until i read this article:

http://overclockers.com/index....components&Itemid=4265

if this dude can run a 8800gtx (which consumes only 50wt less than a 8800gt sli config according to the bottom link), w/ a 3.6ghz C2D cpu on a solid 350wt psu, then im pretty confident my enermax 420wt psu can handle 8800gt sli, especially after 80% efficiency is factored in. My psu has 29a on the 12v line, which is much more important than overall psu wattage. Dont fall into the hype of psu and vid card manufacturers that want u to buy uber psus when u dont need it.

check out the power consumption of 8800gt sli here:

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3140&p=13

8800gt sli only consumes 327wt under load, so i should be fine. I'm very confident i read on Nvidia's site back in the day before 600wt+ psus that the 8800gt in SLI, and NOT a single 8800gt, only needed 450wt.

anyways, it'll make for a good experiment to debunk some of these myths.
 

MarcVenice

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It's a pixel shader test. Only the videocard is under heavy load, the Cpu, ram and HDD's aren't. Real world figures will be higher. I bet 8800gt in SLI will draw 400w no problemo when playing Crysis for example.

I don't blindly run into the hype, I'd like to think that I know what I'm talking about, and besides a PSU being able to power something, I also take into account the headroom that will be left and the price of a PSU. A 650tx can be had for $80 for example. A decent 450-500w PSU will run you at least $50, when spending $700-1000 on a gaming rig, I think the extra $30 are easily justifyed. With a 650tx 2 8800gt's or 2 HD4850's will put the PSU under a 50-60% load, just about right if you ask me. And if it's higher, like 70%, you're still good to go.
 

poohbear

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good points u make. I'll try it out nonetheless and see if it'll work. if not i'll hafta get my corsair 520hx mailed to me.

The thing is im currently working in Seoul and to my surprise some of the high quality brandnames dont exist here and if they do they're $100+ for a paltry 500wt model. Never thought i'd be running SLI so opted to buy a cheaper 420wt one.:( we'll see what it gets me when i buy the 2nd 8800gt.:/

oh, and i just found Nvidia's official requirements:

Requirements:
Minimum of a 400 Watt power supply.
(Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 22 Amp Amps.)
Minimum 450 Watt for SLI mode system.
(Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 24 Amp Amps.)
An available 6 pin PCI-E power connector (hard drive power dongle to PCI-E 6 pin adapter included with card)


so, my psu has 29a on the 12+v despite being 420wt, which is what i was looking for (i usually ignore total power wattage as long as its over 400 & just look at the amperage). it meets the requirements.
 

Kraeoss

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well guys got my 8800GT and it's there in my system... for the first time i have a good gfx card now hoping all goes well @ this mth end and the next i'll be upgrading the mobo+cpu to get back into gaming. my current cpu causes me to get like 40 fps avg on most games and 25 max in media player classic while viewing avi/mpg/flv files.
 

walk2k

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Originally posted by: toyota
Originally posted by: walk2k
I paid $280 for mine in 12/07 or so and don't regret it at all.

Great card and at 1280x1024 (no AA) which is what I play games at there isn't another card out there that will show significant real-world (non-benchmark) perceptible improvements in games even if you spend $600.
well thats not true for Clear Sky where GTX280 or 4870/4870x2 would make your 8800gt cry in comparison even at 1280.

http://www.pcgameshardware.com...nchmark_Review/?page=2

Eh. 34fps for a $450 card or 23fps for $150?
Not really a good comparison.

Is +11fps really worth $300?
Is 34fps really playable anyway?

I mean if it was 23fps vs 60-70fps... then maaaybe.

How about just reduce the details a little and get the $150 card to 40-ish fps?

My PSU doesn't even have the connectors for that GTx 280 beast anyway. I mean the 8800GT uses 1 6-pin PCI-E connector....
 
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Just wait for Nvidia to do what it does best which in the case of the 8800GT it'll mean it gets relabled as a 9600GT with a nice price drop. Then the 8800GTS G92 will become a 9800GSO and the 9800GTX+ will become a GTX220se and the GTX 260 an FX5900 ULTRA +++ and the almighty GTX280 will become a GeForce10 MX420se lite and they'll start throwing in a free T-shirt with every order of 1000 or more.