8800GT Review(s) - (18 and counting)

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Originally posted by: PingSpike
I've got a 8800gts 640mb that I'm pretty happy with and this thing is making me thinking of selling it. Its really more of a lateral move though...and frankly, I don't like that crappy cooler. I prefer the double slot ones with an external exhaust.

I prefer dual slot coolers too for that very reason. I can see where sff builders will be happy with this cooler(although the card looks kinda long to me), but I'd rather have heat exhausted outside the case.

In the end, this looks like my next card.

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: JBT

Originally posted by: munky
I don't know how you guys can suffer without a decent card for weeks just to save what, like 20-30 bucks? I thought about it, and decided I'd rather keep my 1900xt until I have my next card, I can't stand being "cardless."

its awful. I have never done it before... and will never do it again... I don't recommend it to anyone.

you know, I could rent you my 1950xt since I have a 7300 gt that would actually pass as a decent stopgap for me. say $50 plus you pay shipping both ways?

 

[Rusin]

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Yet another test!


Overclocking (Core 600MHz -> 650MHz (8,3%), memory 1800MHz -> 2000MHz (11%)

Call of Juarez:

(GT compared to)
GF8800GT 1920 - 20fps 1600 - 26fps 1280 - 31fps 1024 - 42fps
Ultra 1920=74%| 1600=84%|1280=84%|1024=88%
GTS 320 1920=167%|1600 =163%|1280=155%|1024=131%
Overclocking: Virtually no gains

Lost Planet:

GT 1920=47fps 1600=58fps 1280=70fps
Ultra 1920=81%|1600=84%|1280=88%
GTS 1920:102%|1600=95%|1280=89%
Overclocking: at 1920x1200 8,5% gain, 1600x1200 6,8% gain

Company of Heroes:
GT 1920=30fps 1024=68fps
Ultra 1920=70% |1024=86%
GTS 1920=176%|1024=219%
Overclocking: virtually no gains

Bioshock:
GT 1920=42fps 1600=47fps 1280=58fps 1024=70fps
Ultra 1920=79% 1600=81% 1280=84% 1024=88%
GTS 1920=108% 1600=102% 1280=95% 1024=89%
Overclocking: at 1920x1200 7% gain, 1600x1200 8.5% gain

Unreal Tournament 3:
GT 1920=72fps 1600=90fps 1280=110fps 1024=132fps
Ultra 1920=72% 1600=80% 1280=94% 1024=99%
GTS 1920=106% 1600=122% 1280=109% 1024=113%
Overclocking: at 1920x1200 15% gain, 1600x1200 8% gain
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Note: This card overclocks to around 730MHz, which would be another 12% upwards from that 650MHz


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Note they didn't use AA or AF in this test..perhaps because of this 8800 GTS fares better?

 

[Cheex]

Originally posted by: bryanW1995
I wouldn't bother upgrading unless you can do it for free and/or you're really suffering in games with the new monitor. Wait for new high end in 6 mos if you can, it should be worth it!

You're probably right. Especially seeing as though I haven't even gotten my monitor yet.

My 320MB should hold me out until next year.

(Thinks to self: Damn I love upgrading!! I wanna upgrade!!!!!)

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: swtethan

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
I think Foolish501 made the best sacrifice. Selling his 7900 to get the most he could for it before the wind blew in on the new stuff, and is miserable right now with an X300, albeit temporary. Suffer a little to gain as much as possible. Me, I'm stuck with a 640GTS that I won't be able to get over 225 bucks for in about a week. I use the term "stuck" pretty loosely. There are surely worse things I could be stuck with.

Actually this week I have a buyer for my card for $300

Sure, to someone who doesn't yet know about the 8800GT. And I'm sure you won't be telling them about it either.

 

[swtethan]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: swtethan

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
I think Foolish501 made the best sacrifice. Selling his 7900 to get the most he could for it before the wind blew in on the new stuff, and is miserable right now with an X300, albeit temporary. Suffer a little to gain as much as possible. Me, I'm stuck with a 640GTS that I won't be able to get over 225 bucks for in about a week. I use the term "stuck" pretty loosely. There are surely worse things I could be stuck with.

Actually this week I have a buyer for my card for $300

Sure, to someone who doesn't yet know about the 8800GT. And I'm sure you won't be telling them about it either.

Not my fault they dont keep up with the news

 

[HeXploiT]

Originally posted by: rmed64
So glad I never buy those $500 video cards when months later you can get better cards at half the price.

That's a partial myth. I spent $389 on my 8800gts six months ago. Now I can turn around and sell it for $320 used and buy a 8800GT for $250.
You just have to have good timing is all.

 

[HeXploiT]

http://myevilprocessor.blogspo...rce-8800-gt-512mb.html

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: rmed64
So glad I never buy those $500 video cards when months later you can get better cards at half the price.

That's a partial myth. I spent $389 on my 8800gts six months ago. Now I can turn around and sell it for $320 used and buy a 8800GT for $250.
You just have to have good timing is all.

i don't believe i *ever* bought a video card for myself that wasn't on sale
- i paid $320 for my 2900xt over 5 months with Orange Box included. i bet i can get my *all* money out of it now - if i choose to sell it - and still keep the game bundle.

 

[HeXploiT]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: rmed64
So glad I never buy those $500 video cards when months later you can get better cards at half the price.

That's a partial myth. I spent $389 on my 8800gts six months ago. Now I can turn around and sell it for $320 used and buy a 8800GT for $250.
You just have to have good timing is all.

i don't believe i *ever* bought a video card for myself that wasn't on sale
- i paid $320 for my 2900xt over 5 months with Orange Box included. i bet i can get my *all* money out of it now - if i choose to sell it - and still keep the game bundle.

Shopping is key. Thank goodness for places like newegg & zipzoomfly.
Always felt sorry for those poor saps buying off the shelf.

 

[swtethan]

almost 2k point advantage vs HD3800? http://myevilprocessor.blogspo...vs-nvidia-geforce.html


I thought the HS series were monsters at 3dM

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: rmed64
So glad I never buy those $500 video cards when months later you can get better cards at half the price.

That's a partial myth. I spent $389 on my 8800gts six months ago. Now I can turn around and sell it for $320 used and buy a 8800GT for $250.
You just have to have good timing is all.

i don't believe i *ever* bought a video card for myself that wasn't on sale
- i paid $320 for my 2900xt over 5 months ago with Orange Box included. i bet i can get my *all* money out of it now - if i choose to sell it - and still keep the game bundle.

Shopping is key. Thank goodness for places like newegg & zipzoomfly.
Always felt sorry for those poor saps buying off the shelf.

Actually - if i may digress - what is mindboggling is that i got my 2900xt at Best Buy for $320. Heck, i got a brand new clearanced Samsung 205BW [20" 16x10 LCD] at B&M Staples for $135!!!
-keep your eyes wide open and your credit card ready is the moral of my short & happy story.




and i want to see real benchmarks before i give up my 2900xt for a GT
-Do i want 2,000 more points in a synthetic benchmark? If it runs DX10 titles significantly better would be my only concern. My 2900xt is perfect for maxed out DX9 games with 4xAA/16xAF; i will be interested in upgrading when a single card can match that performance in DX10 titles

 

[TroubleM]

DAMN! I love these automated translations!
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I know that many people will want to ask this Radeon HD 38x0 referring to the XT or Pro version, but it is a pity that I can not say, mainly because the ATI drivers only "Gang of Health," and therefore the effectiveness and not too good to see.

Now many have received GeForce 8800 GT card, it is said that the current price is 8,880 yuan (512 MB) and 7,880 yuan (256 MB). The Kuanghua Market stores have already filled in on the price quotations, more manufacturers are ready to sell stolen. :shocked:

But today, I heard an appalling news, and that is G92 is the GeForce 8800 GT, and its chip yields only "5%":laugh:, and if this matter is true, then rush out GeForce 8800 GT HD counterparts Radeon 3800 series is true.
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Somehow, I cannot believe this 5% yield to be correct.

 

[Matt2]

Originally posted by: TroubleM
DAMN! I love these automated translations!
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I know that many people will want to ask this Radeon HD 38x0 referring to the XT or Pro version, but it is a pity that I can not say, mainly because the ATI drivers only "Gang of Health," and therefore the effectiveness and not too good to see.

Now many have received GeForce 8800 GT card, it is said that the current price is 8,880 yuan (512 MB) and 7,880 yuan (256 MB). The Kuanghua Market stores have already filled in on the price quotations, more manufacturers are ready to sell stolen. :shocked:

But today, I heard an appalling news, and that is G92 is the GeForce 8800 GT, and its chip yields only "5%":laugh:, and if this matter is true, then rush out GeForce 8800 GT HD counterparts Radeon 3800 series is true.
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Somehow, I cannot believe this 5% yield to be correct.

Agreed. I don't think Nvidia recorded record profits just to lose money on a chip that isn't even really necessary at the moment.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: swtethan

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: swtethan

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
I think Foolish501 made the best sacrifice. Selling his 7900 to get the most he could for it before the wind blew in on the new stuff, and is miserable right now with an X300, albeit temporary. Suffer a little to gain as much as possible. Me, I'm stuck with a 640GTS that I won't be able to get over 225 bucks for in about a week. I use the term "stuck" pretty loosely. There are surely worse things I could be stuck with.

Actually this week I have a buyer for my card for $300

Sure, to someone who doesn't yet know about the 8800GT. And I'm sure you won't be telling them about it either.

Not my fault they dont keep up with the news

See, now you're making think about ebaying mine. Bastage!!!

 

[swtethan]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: swtethan

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: swtethan

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
I think Foolish501 made the best sacrifice. Selling his 7900 to get the most he could for it before the wind blew in on the new stuff, and is miserable right now with an X300, albeit temporary. Suffer a little to gain as much as possible. Me, I'm stuck with a 640GTS that I won't be able to get over 225 bucks for in about a week. I use the term "stuck" pretty loosely. There are surely worse things I could be stuck with.

Actually this week I have a buyer for my card for $300

Sure, to someone who doesn't yet know about the 8800GT. And I'm sure you won't be telling them about it either.

Not my fault they dont keep up with the news

See, now you're making think about ebaying mine. Bastage!!!

craigslist is better, no fees and..... less scammers

 

[Rusin]

About that PcOnline-review:

That 8800 GTS 320MB they use is overclocked version. It has 580MHz for core and 1800MHz for memory..thats 12,6% overclock for core and it still manages to lose against 8800 GT 512MB with reference clocks. That OC'd 8800GT has 8,3% more clock speed compared to reference model. So it looks great..

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: Rusin
http://translate.google.com/tr...l&prev=/language_tools
Yet another test!


Overclocking (Core 600MHz -> 650MHz (8,3%), memory 1800MHz -> 2000MHz (11%)

Call of Juarez:

(GT compared to)
GF8800GT 1920 - 20fps 1600 - 26fps 1280 - 31fps 1024 - 42fps
Ultra 1920=74%| 1600=84%|1280=84%|1024=88%
GTS 320 1920=167%|1600 =163%|1280=155%|1024=131%
Overclocking: Virtually no gains

Lost Planet:

GT 1920=47fps 1600=58fps 1280=70fps
Ultra 1920=81%|1600=84%|1280=88%
GTS 1920:102%|1600=95%|1280=89%
Overclocking: at 1920x1200 8,5% gain, 1600x1200 6,8% gain

Company of Heroes:
GT 1920=30fps 1024=68fps
Ultra 1920=70% |1024=86%
GTS 1920=176%|1024=219%
Overclocking: virtually no gains

Bioshock:
GT 1920=42fps 1600=47fps 1280=58fps 1024=70fps
Ultra 1920=79% 1600=81% 1280=84% 1024=88%
GTS 1920=108% 1600=102% 1280=95% 1024=89%
Overclocking: at 1920x1200 7% gain, 1600x1200 8.5% gain

Unreal Tournament 3:
GT 1920=72fps 1600=90fps 1280=110fps 1024=132fps
Ultra 1920=72% 1600=80% 1280=94% 1024=99%
GTS 1920=106% 1600=122% 1280=109% 1024=113%
Overclocking: at 1920x1200 15% gain, 1600x1200 8% gain
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Note: This card overclocks to around 730MHz, which would be another 12% upwards from that 650MHz


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Note they didn't use AA or AF in this test..perhaps because of this 8800 GTS fares better?

why is everything in % instead of factual numbers that are easy to understand? After a full day of work I'm really not in the mood for math lessons.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: swtethan
almost 2k point advantage vs HD3800? http://myevilprocessor.blogspo...vs-nvidia-geforce.html


I thought the HS series were monsters at 3dM

That's made up because with a slower CPU and memory I can get higher scores than that supposed HD38xx score there.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: swtethan
almost 2k point advantage vs HD3800? http://myevilprocessor.blogspo...vs-nvidia-geforce.html


I thought the HS series were monsters at 3dM

That's made up because with a slower CPU and memory I can get higher scores than that supposed HD38xx score there.

Is the HD3850 supposed to be faster than the HD2900XT? I thought that was supposed to be HD3870's job?? Dunno at this point.

 

[The J]

Originally posted by: JBT

Originally posted by: munky
I don't know how you guys can suffer without a decent card for weeks just to save what, like 20-30 bucks? I thought about it, and decided I'd rather keep my 1900xt until I have my next card, I can't stand being "cardless."

its awful. I have never done it before... and will never do it again... I don't recommend it to anyone.

Looks like a lot of you are dying to upgrade from a GeForce 7900 or Radeon x1950. Me? I did have a GeForce 6800GT 256MB. I say "did" because my computer went kaput a few months ago and I've been waiting until the price is right to build a new system (old one was a S939 Athlon 64 3200+, 2GB RAM, 6800GT). Since then, I've been relying on my laptop: a Celeron M, Intel GMA950 machine, with 1GB RAM. That's right, I'm essentially upgrading from a GMA950!

Looks like the 8800GT is exactly what I've been waiting for and ought to last since I play on a 1280x1024 LCD.

 

[Spike]

Really dumb question here but whats with the PCIe 2.0? I am looking at grabbing this card to replace my 7800GT in December and am curious if it will work in my rig below.

thanks!

 

[Rusin]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: swtethan
almost 2k point advantage vs HD3800? http://myevilprocessor.blogspo...vs-nvidia-geforce.html


I thought the HS series were monsters at 3dM

That's made up because with a slower CPU and memory I can get higher scores than that supposed HD38xx score there.

Is the HD3850 supposed to be faster than the HD2900XT? I thought that was supposed to be HD3870's job?? Dunno at this point.

If you look at specs there's two things that would make performance difference between these two:
-HD3850 has 8MHz higher core clock frequency
-HD3850 doesn't have that huge membandwith

People are saying that there will be improved AA and optimizations in a tone that it would be fact, but when you look at what they are basing these things..Fudzilla stories and peoples pure speculation.

 

[Rusin]

Originally posted by: Spike
Really dumb question here but whats with the PCIe 2.0? I am looking at grabbing this card to replace my 7800GT in December and am curious if it will work in my rig below.

thanks!

PCI-E 1 and 2 are compatible both ways meaning that PCI-E 2.0 card will work in PCI-E 1 mother board and vice versa. PCI-E 2.0 16x has double the bandwith compared to old models and 2.0 can push 150W compared to PCI-E 1's 75W.

So PCI-E 2.0 card will work with reduced bandwith on PCI-E 1 motherboard (shouldn't be any performance difference with current generation) and for example 8800 GT will need that extra power connector when using PCI-E 1 motherboard, but in PCI-E 2.0 mobo this ain't required

 

[Spike]

Originally posted by: Rusin

Originally posted by: Spike
Really dumb question here but whats with the PCIe 2.0? I am looking at grabbing this card to replace my 7800GT in December and am curious if it will work in my rig below.

thanks!

PCI-E 1 and 2 are compatible both ways meaning that PCI-E 2.0 card will work in PCI-E 1 mother board and vice versa. PCI-E 2.0 16x has double the bandwith compared to old models and 2.0 can push 150W compared to PCI-E 1's 75W.

So PCI-E 2.0 card will work with reduced bandwith on PCI-E 1 motherboard (shouldn't be any performance difference with current generation) and for example 8800 GT will need that extra power connector when using PCI-E 1 motherboard, but in PCI-E 2.0 mobo this ain't required

So what is the slot on a DFI NF4 lanparty? According to the specs the slot is a 16x so that would imply it's a 2.0? Just curious, thanks!