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lilitaly842

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Originally posted by: JustaGeek
I would suggest an exchange for a different BFG 8800 GT - even just to see how/if it works on your computer.

Mine works perfectly (so far...), and I am actually blown away with 11600 3DMark06 score, versus ~5900 with my 7950GT.

In your case, I suspect the PCIe bus incompatibility, or just a bad card. It happens...

yeah, thats the first step today, hopefully its as simple as a bad card
 

JSK07

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Originally posted by: JustaGeek
I would suggest an exchange for a different BFG 8800 GT - even just to see how/if it works on your computer.

Mine works perfectly (so far...), and I am actually blown away with 11600 3DMark06 score, versus ~5900 with my 7950GT.

In your case, I suspect the PCIe bus incompatibility, or just a bad card. It happens...

Boy, I hope I can get a score like that from my system! My current system is a AMD X2 3800 OC'd to 2.5Ghz with 2gb (4x512mb) and ATI X850XT. When I ran 3DMark06 it would crash part way through and give me a score of like 2100.

So since I got my 8800GT before the rest of my new components I swapped it out for the X850XT in my current system and got a score of about 5100.

On Monday the rest of my new components are arriving. Q6600, Abit IP35-E and 4Gb of DDR2 800. Can't wait for the new results!

And FWIW, I too have the BFG 8800GT OC and it works great. I'm running Vista 64 with the most recent drivers from Nvidia's website. Right now everything is at the stock settings.
 

JAH

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I had the same issue with the BFG 8800GT OC I bought from BB, although I'm running Windows XP. I tested the card on two systems and two different monitors. No signal at all. I was just going to exchange it for another one, but the BB I bought it from didn't have any more instock, so I just got my money back.

Now I'm just going to wait for the GTS refresh that's supposedly will be out by the end of the month, maybe by then the GT will be less expensive.
 

JustaGeek

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Originally posted by: JSK07
Originally posted by: JustaGeek
I would suggest an exchange for a different BFG 8800 GT - even just to see how/if it works on your computer.

Mine works perfectly (so far...), and I am actually blown away with 11600 3DMark06 score, versus ~5900 with my 7950GT.

In your case, I suspect the PCIe bus incompatibility, or just a bad card. It happens...

Boy, I hope I can get a score like that from my system! My current system is a AMD X2 3800 OC'd to 2.5Ghz with 2gb (4x512mb) and ATI X850XT. When I ran 3DMark06 it would crash part way through and give me a score of like 2100.

So since I got my 8800GT before the rest of my new components I swapped it out for the X850XT in my current system and got a score of about 5100.

On Monday the rest of my new components are arriving. Q6600, Abit IP35-E and 4Gb of DDR2 800. Can't wait for the new results!

And FWIW, I too have the BFG 8800GT OC and it works great. I'm running Vista 64 with the most recent drivers from Nvidia's website. Right now everything is at the stock settings.

I suspect that there are some other issues with your system - the 2100 and 5100 scores are way too low. I was getting ~2600 with the 2.6GHz Pentium 4 and 7800GS.

Make sure that during testing you are not running any other User processes than explorer.exe and taskmgr.exe, and your anti-spyware and anti-virus are disabled.

Good luck!
 

lilitaly842

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Nov 9, 2007
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UPDATE:

New card, same problem. sigh, so its not the card. incompatibility with the motherboard maybe? Abit IP35 PRO for reference.

Also, would simply switching to a different model alleviate the issue? the price/performance wont be that same obviously, but its better than having a card sitting around that i cant get to work.
 

rramosrob

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Nov 15, 2007
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Originally posted by: lilitaly842
UPDATE:

New card, same problem. sigh, so its not the card. incompatibility with the motherboard maybe? Abit IP35 PRO for reference.

Also, would simply switching to a different model alleviate the issue? the price/performance wont be that same obviously, but its better than having a card sitting around that i cant get to work.

I bought the BFG 8800 GT OC from Best Buy... I'm having the same issues. I can see the box booting normally just no visuals. LCDs are staying in standby. I tried it in both of my boxes. I have an Abit IP35-E AND and Asus A8N-E.

Same issue on both boxes with the BFG 8800 GT.
 

Sylvanas

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Do you have any other cards perhaps to try with, perhaps older ones or borrow a gfx card to identify if it is indeed an isolated issue with the GT itself. I have an Abit P35 mobo and it has been fine with a 8800GTX and a 2900XT so I would doubt it is the motherboard itself.
 

bryanW1995

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OP mentioned earlier that his ati card worked fine. well, the good news is that newegg has the his 3870 in stock for 225 shipped... I hope that I don't have problems like that when my new card shows up. Of course, it I do I can always fall back on this trusty 6600gt...300/500 clocks FTW!!!
 

Hauk

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Do you get any display at boot? Do you see bios screen, or can you get into bios? Does display blank out as windows loads?
 

ManWithNoName

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You guys may also be having an issue justageek briefly touched on. There's a very long thread on HardForum regarding the compatibility of the Asrock 4Core-Dual-VSTA and the 8800GT. When using the 8800GT, didn't matter which manufacturer the card came from, their computers wouldn't start and they didn't get a video signal. It turns out the problem was an incompatibilty with the motherboard's chipset/BIOS (per Asrock) and it's inability to read the 8800GT's PCI-E 2.0 signature in the VGA-BIOS. A few brave enough to try, flashed their 8800GT's with an Asus VGA-BIOS modded by Asrock techs which changed the GEN2/PCI-E 2.0 signature to a GEN1 PCI-E 1.x signature and it worked. I have also seen this same problem with a couple of other motherboards, one from Asus and another from Biostar. Myself and another person who was part of that hardforum thread in the link below, helped someone on Guru3D with same issue. He had an Asus motherboard and after flashing his video card it worked just fine. Not saying this is definitely everyone's issue in this thread, but it may be worth looking at. Easiest way to rule out this problem though would be to plug your card into someone elses system and see if it works.

Here is the post and thread ......

http://www.hardforum.com/showp...031624471&postcount=98

Here's the Guru3D thread. There is also a handy step-by-step to flashing the 8800GT's BIOS in this thread prepared by Matlear.

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=243301

Also it would help if you guys post your power supply make and model just so this could be totally ruled out. Although I doubt your power supply is thie issue since the reccomendations are so minimal - 400w power supply with 22a on the +12v rail. According to EVGA. This is what is listed for their SCC card.
 

RanDum72

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I would look at upgrading the PSU or get a different PSU to check it with, preferably a much higher wattage one with good (multiple) 12v rails. and one that can also give proper PCI-express power. The only adapters I've seen are two molex to one PCI-express card power connector so whatever you're putting into the cards power plug ain't cutting it.
 

rramosrob

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Nov 15, 2007
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Originally posted by: SteelSix
Do you get any display at boot? Do you see bios screen, or can you get into bios? Does display blank out as windows loads?

I personally didn't get any display at all. NO post or anything...but I could tell that the box was loading properly(drives seeking and loading) except for the lack of display. That was both abit IP35-e and Asus A8N.

BTW, I have a 430W Antec Neopower PSU in both systems...I unplugged everything except the PCI-e plug just to get a POST screen. I got nothing.

I went to Best Buy to exchange for another one and the 8 or 9 they had 2 days ago were all sold. Just got a refund.

I threw my old 6600 back in until I can find a replacement.

 

mikuto

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Jan 17, 2007
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Originally posted by: rramosrob
Originally posted by: lilitaly842
UPDATE:

New card, same problem. sigh, so its not the card. incompatibility with the motherboard maybe? Abit IP35 PRO for reference.

Also, would simply switching to a different model alleviate the issue? the price/performance wont be that same obviously, but its better than having a card sitting around that i cant get to work.

I bought the BFG 8800 GT OC from Best Buy... I'm having the same issues. I can see the box booting normally just no visuals. LCDs are staying in standby. I tried it in both of my boxes. I have an Abit IP35-E AND and Asus A8N-E.

Same issue on both boxes with the BFG 8800 GT.

The fact that the system boots normally into Windows, but without anything on the screen rules out any kind of hardware incompatibility between the card and the motherboard, PCI 2.0 issues or whatever.

The fact that you're not seeing anything in BIOS rules out the possibility of a software driver / OS incompatibility being the true cause.

If the problem were caused by an incompatibility between the board and the monitor on the digital link, you should see something on analog, so that's out too.

Forget about the PSU not having enough juice - that problem may only appear under heavy load on both the processor and the graphics card. I'm 100% sure that's not the problem.

So... unless you're overlooking something simple, like selecting analog input on the monitor when trying that option, then, unlikely as it seems, I can only think of one reason: a batch of cards that have defective output driver circuitry (I'm talking about the driver circuits that generate the output signal for the DVI port, not software drivers).
 

vaylon

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Check abits website for a chipset update.
Most likely it's motherboard drivers.
Something else you can try is to go into the present bios and put all you gaphic settings to minimal or substandard setting and to disable things like buffers and graphics cache. Then see if it will boot up.

I haven't worked on abit boards in awhile but I know that msi boards are finnicky with the nvidia higher end cards and 99% of the time it has to do with the bio's.
 

Satanier

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Nov 23, 2007
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Please stop with the PSU nonsense guys, that's not his problem. I have a 650 watt PSU and a 7900gs and my DVI just died recently, I have tested with two different Dell 2407wfp-hc's. The DVI worked perfectly for a couple of months then became intermittent and then stopped working altogether. I suspect a driver update may have caused it to stop working all together, but that doesn't explain no display at post even. VGA works fine(dvi->vga adapter)...
 

Jules

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Originally posted by: ManWithNoName
You guys may also be having an issue justageek briefly touched on. There's a very long thread on HardForum regarding the compatibility of the Asrock 4Core-Dual-VSTA and the 8800GT. When using the 8800GT, didn't matter which manufacturer the card came from, their computers wouldn't start and they didn't get a video signal. It turns out the problem was an incompatibilty with the motherboard's chipset/BIOS (per Asrock) and it's inability to read the 8800GT's PCI-E 2.0 signature in the VGA-BIOS. A few brave enough to try, flashed their 8800GT's with an Asus VGA-BIOS modded by Asrock techs which changed the GEN2/PCI-E 2.0 signature to a GEN1 PCI-E 1.x signature and it worked. I have also seen this same problem with a couple of other motherboards, one from Asus and another from Biostar. Myself and another person who was part of that hardforum thread in the link below, helped someone on Guru3D with same issue. He had an Asus motherboard and after flashing his video card it worked just fine. Not saying this is definitely everyone's issue in this thread, but it may be worth looking at. Easiest way to rule out this problem though would be to plug your card into someone elses system and see if it works.

Here is the post and thread ......

http://www.hardforum.com/showp...031624471&postcount=98

Here's the Guru3D thread. There is also a handy step-by-step to flashing the 8800GT's BIOS in this thread prepared by Matlear.

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=243301

Also it would help if you guys post your power supply make and model just so this could be totally ruled out. Although I doubt your power supply is thie issue since the reccomendations are so minimal - 400w power supply with 22a on the +12v rail. According to EVGA. This is what is listed for their SCC card.

Bingo!


I'm having no Problems with the 8800GT i got from BB on Sunday. I thought i was gonna have the incompatible issue thats posted above but it worked great.