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[JPB]

3DMark Benches


Might not be the real deal


We spotted some GeForce 8800GT benchmarks over at the Mobile01 forums, altough we can't verify that they're the real deal and the 3DMark screenshots look slightly odd.

Aparently the upcoming 8800GT will score 14679 in 3DMark 05 and 35351 in 3DMark 03, but the odd thing with the screenshots is the fact that the CPU is reported as @ 2400MHz which makes it all look odd.

A bit more reliable is the cut-out from some Nvidia material which talks about clock speeds and stream processors, as we already knew the cards would have 112 stream processors and according to this info they'll be clocked at 1.5GHz.

The cards will also have a 256-bit frame buffer and the poster on Mobile01 claims that the 512MB version will be able to perform 40 Giga instructions per second compared to only 27 for the 8800 GTS 640MB.

However, this won't reflect the overall perfromance of the card, this only has to do with the stream processors.

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YOU MAY HAVE heard that the upcoming G92 has some pretty interesting performance numbers. All we can say is life sucks if you recently bought a GTX.

The 8800GT with MeII-32, a QX6800 and 2G of DDR2-1000 ram all on a 780i board scores 14200 on 3DMark 05.

This is a little higher than the scores Theo saw, and just about even with the 8800Ultra scores at this rez.

That could be down to a lot of different things, most probably drivers, followed by CPU subtests skewing the scores. In any case, things are looking up for the green-tinged ones. µ

scores Theo saw

G92 scores outed

Thanks goes to keysplayr2003 for supplying the link.

 

[Keysplayr]

Well, things are adding up less and less. As it stands right now, it looks like the 8800GT (if it indeed has 112 shaders clocked 600/1500 with 1800MHz memory) would wipe the floor with an 8800GTS and render 8800GTS instantly useless. I can't see 256bit bus on a 8800GT being THAT much of a hinderence.

So! The big question! Will this threaten 8800GTX as well? Or will Nvidia release an insanely clocked 65nm GTX? (800/2000 with 2200MHz GDDR4?) I think that just might manhandle Crysis. The smokescreen is pretty thick this time around.

 

[JPB]

But doesn't the 8800GTS score around 15K in 3DMark 05 ? At first sight, I thought these scores were for 3DMark06 and thought.....DAMN. If this is the case, wouldn't it be about equal to the GTS ?

 

[superbooga]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Well, things are adding up less and less. As it stands right now, it looks like the 8800GT (if it indeed has 112 shaders clocked 600/1500 with 1800MHz memory) would wipe the floor with an 8800GTS and render 8800GTS instantly useless. I can't see 256bit bus on a 8800GT being THAT much of a hinderence.

Don't think of it as 8800GT vs 8800GTS. Think of it as G92 112/256 vs G80 96/320. The G92 112/256 could be still be called the 8800GTS, who knows. If the G80 96/320 isn't rendered useless then Nvidia has failed. The G92 should considerably increase sales while keeping a nice margin for Nvidia.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: JPB
But doesn't the 8800GTS score around 15K in 3DMark 05 ? At first sight, I thought these scores were for 3DMark06 and thought.....DAMN. If this is the case, wouldn't it be about equal to the GTS ?

8800GTS averages between 8500 to 10000 in 3DMark06 (depending on CPU). There is no way it could reach 15k in 06. I'm not certain what an 8800GTS does in 05, but I think it's higher than 15k.

 

[superbooga]

15k is about what a 8800GTS does, but overclocked it can reach 20k. Thus, the '05 scores are kinda low for the 8800GT. Probably just needs a few driver tweaks.

 

[JPB]

When I had my GTS, and my cpu was overclocked to 2.6 ( single core cpu ) and gpu at 620/1980...I scored 15,345 ( i think it was ) I know it was mid 15K, and thats why I asked.

IF these scores are real...wouldn't that make the GT slightly slower than the GTS ?

 

[SilentAssassin]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...howthread.php?t=161904

I dunno if this is real but according to the pics a Core 2 Duo @ 3.6Ghz scores 19881 is 05 and 12072 in 06. That's pretty good then if the price stays $250. Definately = to the current GTS if not a litte faster.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: JPB
But doesn't the 8800GTS score around 15K in 3DMark 05 ? At first sight, I thought these scores were for 3DMark06 and thought.....DAMN. If this is the case, wouldn't it be about equal to the GTS ?

8800GTS averages between 8500 to 10000 in 3DMark06 (depending on CPU). There is no way it could reach 15k in 06. I'm not certain what an 8800GTS does in 05, but I think it's higher than 15k.

in Vista x64 my HD2900XT scored 19517 if that gives any hints.

However, 3dmark is the worst way to compare cards. How do you know they didn't turn down all the quality settings on the driver level?

 

[imported_Shaq]

Originally posted by: SilentAssassin
http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...howthread.php?t=161904

I dunno if this is real but according to the pics a Core 2 Duo @ 3.6Ghz scores 19881 is 05 and 12072 in 06. That's pretty good then if the price stays $250. Definately = to the current GTS if not a litte faster.

hmm...I have a q6600 @3.2 and a 8800GTS 320 @684/1712/2160 and I get 13413 in 3DMark06 so it's a good bit slower than a max OC'd 320. But for $250 it's a decent deal.

 

[Rusin]

Originally posted by: Shaq

Originally posted by: SilentAssassin
http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...howthread.php?t=161904

I dunno if this is real but according to the pics a Core 2 Duo @ 3.6Ghz scores 19881 is 05 and 12072 in 06. That's pretty good then if the price stays $250. Definately = to the current GTS if not a litte faster.

hmm...I have a q6600 @3.2 and a 8800GTS 320 @684/1712/2160 and I get 13413 in 3DMark06 so it's a good bit slower than a max OC'd 320. But for $250 it's a decent deal.

Well it's no use to compare GPU that's overclocked to the max..with GPU withouth overclocking. That over 12072 is pretty much what GF8800 GT should get with stock clocks (if those latest news about it's specs would be true). Id believe that with Q6600@3.2GHz and GF8800GT overclocked to the max it would leave old GF8800 GTS far behind.

 

[Rusin]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
However, 3dmark is the worst way to compare cards. How do you know they didn't turn down all the quality settings on the driver level?

You're right. 3dMark doesn't meassure cards performance in games. It says only that how good that card is in 3dMark.

 

[SniperDaws]

Originally posted by: Shaq

Originally posted by: SilentAssassin
http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...howthread.php?t=161904

I dunno if this is real but according to the pics a Core 2 Duo @ 3.6Ghz scores 19881 is 05 and 12072 in 06. That's pretty good then if the price stays $250. Definately = to the current GTS if not a litte faster.

hmm...I have a q6600 @3.2 and a 8800GTS 320 @684/1712/2160 and I get 13413 in 3DMark06 so it's a good bit slower than a max OC'd 320. But for $250 it's a decent deal.

Well you wont know that untill you overclock the 8800GT as your GTS is overclocked to the hilt isnt it.

 

[imported_Shaq]

Originally posted by: Rusin

Originally posted by: Shaq

Originally posted by: SilentAssassin
http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...howthread.php?t=161904

I dunno if this is real but according to the pics a Core 2 Duo @ 3.6Ghz scores 19881 is 05 and 12072 in 06. That's pretty good then if the price stays $250. Definately = to the current GTS if not a litte faster.

hmm...I have a q6600 @3.2 and a 8800GTS 320 @684/1712/2160 and I get 13413 in 3DMark06 so it's a good bit slower than a max OC'd 320. But for $250 it's a decent deal.

Well it's no use to compare GPU that's overclocked to the max..with GPU withouth overclocking. That over 12072 is pretty much what GF8800 GT should get with stock clocks (if those latest news about it's specs would be true). Id believe that with Q6600@3.2GHz and GF8800GT overclocked to the max it would leave old GF8800 GTS far behind.

13400 is the same score of a q6600 @3.2 with a GTX. So you really think a 8800GT can beat a GTX just from OC'ing and for only $250? The GTX's should then be cancelled because they won't sell any of them if that is true.

 

[SniperDaws]

Originally posted by: Shaq

Originally posted by: Rusin

Originally posted by: Shaq

Originally posted by: SilentAssassin
http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...howthread.php?t=161904

I dunno if this is real but according to the pics a Core 2 Duo @ 3.6Ghz scores 19881 is 05 and 12072 in 06. That's pretty good then if the price stays $250. Definately = to the current GTS if not a litte faster.

hmm...I have a q6600 @3.2 and a 8800GTS 320 @684/1712/2160 and I get 13413 in 3DMark06 so it's a good bit slower than a max OC'd 320. But for $250 it's a decent deal.

Well it's no use to compare GPU that's overclocked to the max..with GPU withouth overclocking. That over 12072 is pretty much what GF8800 GT should get with stock clocks (if those latest news about it's specs would be true). Id believe that with Q6600@3.2GHz and GF8800GT overclocked to the max it would leave old GF8800 GTS far behind.

13400 is the same score of a q6600 @3.2 with a GTX. So you really think a 8800GT can beat a GTX just from OC'ing and for only $250? The GTX's should then be cancelled because they won't sell any of them if that is true.

lmao but its ok for you to score over 13400 without rocking the GTX's boat, dont be getting peeved just becasue this card MIGHT give your card a run for its money.

Anyway these scores will turn out to be fake so i wouldnt worry.

 

[SilentAssassin]

That's also only at 1280x1024. The card might outscore a gts at that rez but I'm sure at a higher rez like 1920x1200 the gtx will still smash it. No way will nvidia release a $250 card that can come close to the gtx unless they are planning on releasing a new high end card. And for all we know all benchmark scores are fake.

 

[Munky]

Lol, the next thing you know, there will be rumors that the 8800gt has 128 shaders and will be sold for under $200! :laugh: Do you think Jen Hsun will like the margins on those cards?

These rumors make no sence, there's no way Nvidia will move to a smaller process node, keep all the transistors from the original g80, and slash the prices in half at the same time. :roll: Especially not when there's no new $600 card in sight.

Based on Nvidia's past releases, I would speculate a mainstream card like the 8800gt must have less tansistors than the g80 to begin with, so no disabled shaders like in the gts. I'll put it at 64-96 shaders, no more.

 

[imported_Shaq]

Originally posted by: SniperDaws

Originally posted by: Shaq

Originally posted by: Rusin

Originally posted by: Shaq

Originally posted by: SilentAssassin
http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...howthread.php?t=161904

I dunno if this is real but according to the pics a Core 2 Duo @ 3.6Ghz scores 19881 is 05 and 12072 in 06. That's pretty good then if the price stays $250. Definately = to the current GTS if not a litte faster.

hmm...I have a q6600 @3.2 and a 8800GTS 320 @684/1712/2160 and I get 13413 in 3DMark06 so it's a good bit slower than a max OC'd 320. But for $250 it's a decent deal.

Well it's no use to compare GPU that's overclocked to the max..with GPU withouth overclocking. That over 12072 is pretty much what GF8800 GT should get with stock clocks (if those latest news about it's specs would be true). Id believe that with Q6600@3.2GHz and GF8800GT overclocked to the max it would leave old GF8800 GTS far behind.

13400 is the same score of a q6600 @3.2 with a GTX. So you really think a 8800GT can beat a GTX just from OC'ing and for only $250? The GTX's should then be cancelled because they won't sell any of them if that is true.

lmao but its ok for you to score over 13400 without rocking the GTX's boat, dont be getting peeved just becasue this card MIGHT give your card a run for its money.

Anyway these scores will turn out to be fake so i wouldnt worry.

No..I don't get attached to hardware too much. I plan on buying any card that comes out faster than this one with at least 512 MB of memory. I'm just saying I doubt it will match a GTX for $250. The extra 256 MB on a GTX won't be worth another $250. If it does beat a GTX I'll happily buy one of them if nothing faster comes out in the next 3 months.

BTW the card I'm using now is a further OC'd Fatal1ty cherry picked one for $380, not a mainstream $250 card.

 

[ronnn]

Will be very interesting next month. Looks like both companies are releasing killer mid range priced cards. So the real battle may be in how well they combine 2 gpus on 1 card.

 

[Cookie Monster]

12072 3dmark06 8800GT - core2 at 3.6ghz

 

[bryanW1995]

If they combine 2 gpus on one card then they'll almost certainly be high-end, not midrange.

 

[kknd1967]

New 3DMark score with 4xAA and 8xAF @ 1280x1024
http://www.expreview.com/img/news/071012/8800gt_06.jpg
http://www.expreview.com/img/n...71012/8800ultra_06.jpg
http://www.expreview.com/img/news/071012/06_compare.png

8800GT-512MB vs. 8800Ultra-768MB
3DMark 9648 11611
SM2.0 3982 4643
HDR/SM3.0 3343 4391
CPU 5544 5529

 

[alcoholbob]

Hmm, so I assume by these numbers the 8800GT-512MB will still be about 5% slower than the stock 320MB 8800 GTS, compared to how it usually scales against the GTX in 3DMark 06. The SM3.0 score is pretty low too.

If the launch price is close to the current 320MB price (I'm guessing near or higher), it seems like it would be much better to either pick up the 256mb 8800GT or try to find any 320MB 8800GTSs left.

 

[superbooga]

Originally posted by: Astrallite
Hmm, so I assume by these numbers the 8800GT-512MB will still be about 5% slower than the stock 320MB 8800 GTS, compared to how it usually scales against the GTX in 3DMark 06. The SM3.0 score is pretty low too.

If the launch price is close to the current 320MB price (I'm guessing near or higher), it seems like it would be much better to either pick up the 256mb 8800GT or try to find any 320MB 8800GTSs left.

You are serverly underestimating the gap between the Ultra and GTS. If you look at Tom's VGA charts, the Ultra is more than 50% faster than the GTS at 1280x1024 4xaa/16xaf.

 

[alcoholbob]

I'm definitely making assumptions about how AA scales. The guys at Xtreme News attribute it to poor AA scaling with the new GTs, hopefully we can see the difference between the 8800 Ultra and 8800 GT on standard settings to clear this up.