8800 series owners, mind trying something for me? (ATi & older nV owners are welcome also)

[postmortemIA]

No tearing on ATi X1950 pro
Noticeable tearing on nv 6800U.

But bad viewing angles make this mode useless on my monitor.

 

[lopri]

I am thinking this has as much to do with monitors as video cards? I just tried it out on my 2nd rig (see sig. Monitor = Dell 2407). While tearing is more visible on portrait mode, it is also visible on landscape mode if I look very carefully. Basically it always tears landscape-way. (under landscape mode tearing occurs horizontally, and under portrait mode tearing occurs vertically) In other words, whichever mode I select, the tearing occurs horizontally to the monitor. No clue here.

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: lopri
I am thinking this has as much to do with monitors as video cards? I just tried it out on my 2nd rig (see sig. Monitor = Dell 2407). While tearing is more visible on portrait mode, it is also visible on landscape mode if I look very carefully. Basically it always tears landscape-way. (under landscape mode tearing occurs horizontally, and under portrait mode tearing occurs vertically) In other words, whichever mode I select, the tearing occurs horizontally to the monitor. No clue here.

Yes, that is true, it does tear side to side when in landscape.

It's not a monitor thing, it's an nVidia issue, as this does not happen on ATi hardware (aside from the really old cards).

When you say you tried it on your second rig, which one is that?

The one with the 8800?

I know there are issues with all the pre-8800 series; i am just trying to find out if it still happens on the 8800s.

 

[40sTheme]

Tears like Satan on my 7950GT w/93.71 Forcewares.
EDIT: Asking a small question: Does desktop resolution effect gaming performance?

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: 40sTheme
Tears like Satan on my 7950GT w/93.71 Forcewares.
EDIT: Asking a small question: Does desktop resolution effect gaming performance?

Not unless you run the games the same resolution as the desktop.

 

[40sTheme]

Originally posted by: n7

Originally posted by: 40sTheme
Tears like Satan on my 7950GT w/93.71 Forcewares.
EDIT: Asking a small question: Does desktop resolution effect gaming performance?

Not unless you run the games the same resolution as the desktop.

So, if I run games at the same res as my desktop, they will run better? I've never really understood that relationship.

 

[FireChicken]

Well N7-

I just installed my new xfx 8800gts and when I switched to the portrait mode I still get tearing. Using the latest drivers XT 97.92.

Very noticable with both cards when I use the scroll bar.

But It is barely noticable when using the scroll wheel on my mouse.

I'd say the tearing was equally bad for both cards.

 

[n7]

Thanx for the report man.



SOB though! :frown:

WTF can't nVidia make a card that works properly for my needs.
I just cannot believe they can't design functional hardware (or is it drivers?) for $500+ video cards.

It sounds like i have no choice but to wait for R600...

 

[lopri]

Yeah my 2nd rig is the Intel rig with a 8800. (for play) AMD rig is for work.

 

[Lonyo]

7800GT 2x17" LCD's, turned the secondary to portrait, was slightly laggy when scrolling, but sometimes my first one gets like that too (I usually have browser on my primary monitor, almost never on secondary).

No tearing I could notice, just not totally smooth.

 

[jimmyj68]

With all due respect to the OP, is it possible that the problem may not be NVIDIA but your mouse drivers? Mouse drivers are screen position critical - in fact they only work properly if they can detect screen position precisely.

Switching to portrait mode if you have a monitor with physical change capability (rotating screen) may only change the orientation of the picture but retain the mouse pointer parameters for landscape. That is obvious if you simply change the video to portrait on a standard non-rotating screen - mouse handling goes crazy.

Not to absolve NVIDIA of any culpability in your concerns, but there are other factors to be considered as possible problem sources. There is a strictly mechanical connection process involved in rotating the screen. To minimize the risk of mechanical damage to connection points, etc. sliders or some other manner of connector switching needs to be present. Secondly, there needs to be some foolproof way to reorient mouse pointer location signals. Too clumsy a fix for that can be causing your slow downs and video signal glitches.

Someone at ATI may have dotted an "I" or crossed a "T" that someone at NVIDIA didn't but in the final anaylsis, I wouldn't condemn NVIDIA because 99.9% of their stuff works and .1% doesn't.

 

[n7]

Mouse drivers? :Q

You're kidding right?!
This has absolutely nothing to do with mice or their drivers.

And in case you hadn't noticed this yet, i run everything flawlessly in portrait mode with my ATi hardware.
Only time i've ever had issues is with nVidia hardware, just like everyone else in this thread has reported.

Why are there issues? Hard to say exactly why, but it is due to no hardware acceleration when running in portrait mode.
That means even when the mouse isn't being touched, using a popup menu or pull down menu is laggy & sluggish, nevermind the ugly tearing of webpages when scrolling.

Is this an nVidia hardware or software issue?
I don't really know actually, but i do know there are no modified drivers or programs that "fix" this, as i must have tried every possible one back when i had my 7900 GTO, all to no avail.

 

[jimmyj68]

So what do I know? Just trying to cover all the bases. I'm not a techie, I'm a sociologist, and you know how they think

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: jimmyj68
So what do I know? Just trying to cover all the bases. I'm not a techie, I'm a sociologist, and you know how they think

Uh oh

Thanx for your input anyway.

I will try to get around to emailing nVidia & asking them what the deal is when i get time to compose a decent email.