8800 GTS 640mb to ATI 5850?

[toyota]

See if you can pick up another 8800 GTS, seems like it wouldn't be too far behind a 5850.

why would he want to find another old used 8800gts 640mb and double his video card power usage yet still not be as fast as a 5850?

 

[hawtdawg]

I'm sure it would still get smoked.

yeah, i forgot those only have 96 shaders.

 

[hawtdawg]

why would he want to find another old used 8800gts 640mb and double his video card power usage yet still not be as fast as a 5850?

because it would cost 1/4 as much?

 

[toyota]

because it would cost 1/4 as much?

yeah but that video card setup would use 300 watts and create extra heat and still not match newer faster cards using half that much power. fooling with a multi gpu setup is silly for really old cards like that. he would do better to sell his 8800gts and buy something newer even if its just a $150 5770.

 

[Headcase_Fargone]

I was in the same situation a few months ago, running an old C2D overclocked to 3.0 and an 8800GTS 640mb at the same resolution OP is. I upgraded to a 5850 and the difference was night and day. I've since rebuilt that machine with an I7, but while I was running that C2D it was definitely a worthwhile upgrade. Especially considering the 5850 only cost me $235 after BCB.

 

[thewalrus34]

bios is the only way I would do it. I hope you arent using the stock Intel heatsink though.

I have a thermaltake extreme (I can't remember the model) but it's a tower and is pretty beast, using arctic 5 also, so cooling shouldn't be a problem

 

[thewalrus34]

-if you have not OC that mb\cpu you might want to check that mb site in the forums
for a OC guide for your board-someone has likely listed their OC. bios settings-what is a safe voltage for chipsets ,cpu, memory and so forth.
-what you can expect as far as heat on the nvidia chip sets. you might have a add a fan or two,
-you can get your card now then slowly learn about the over clocking later
-btw ,what is your psu?

I have a 700W PSU, but I think it's either double or quad rail (I hear a single rail is better)

 

[toyota]

I have a 700W PSU, but I think it's either double or quad rail (I hear a single rail is better)

700 watts really doesnt mean much without knowing the exact model. there are 700 watt power supplies out there that arent even as good as some 400 watt units.

 

[crisium]

Radeon 5770 would probably equal 8800GTS 640 SLI. No need to bother with an SLI set-up imo.

 

[Xarick]

8800gts 320 here to a 5850.. Night and day doesn't even begin to describe the diff.

 

[Modelworks]

Don't forget that the 8800GTS 640MB were made using the G80 chip not the later G92 . The naming scheme for that series was really confusing.
The 8800GTs 320/640 have the G80 chip while the 8800GT 512/1024 have the G92 . The 8800GTS also only does Vp1 video decoding in hardware while the later ones do full acceleration. If you watch movies on the pc the newer cards are a much better choice.

I went from a 8800GTS 640MB to a ATI 5770 , Q6600 cpu and am very happy with the performance.

 

[thewalrus34]

Yeah I'm still unsure about how much I want to blow on a new card, would the 5830 be a good option at all? And sorry, I still can't find my PSU model, i'll have to crack open my pc and take a look.

 

[kalrith]

I was in a similar situation as you. I have a Q6600 @ 3.2GHz and had a 2900XT video card (similar performance to yours). I didn't want to spend a ton of money on the 5xxx cards, so I went with a 4870 for $85 off the FS/FT forums. It increased my GPU score in 3DMark Vantage from 3,900 to 9,200 at stock clocks. I overclocked it a little to hit about 10,300.

Definitely a HUGE difference. Real-game benchmarks put the performance increase at about 110% (i.e. more than double the performance) with stock clocks. A 5850 would be about 55% faster than the 4870 I have; however, it would cost 200% more.

For me, the 4870 is a card to hold me over until the next generation of cards come out. Hopefully the price/performance will be better than the 5xxx generation, or else I'll probably stick with my 4870 for quite a while.

 

[RussianSensation]

8800gts 320 here to a 5850.. Night and day doesn't even begin to describe the diff.

I upgraded to a 4890 and even then it was 2-2.5 times faster. Well it's hard to compare since at 1920x1080 4AA, 320mb would produce about 1-2 fps in newer games Still 8800GTS 640 is about as fast as a 9600GT and 4870/90/5770 are going to be 2x faster than that roughly.

 

[scooterlibby]

I have fond memories of the 8800GTS 640 in SLI, but yes, a slight CPU OC and a 5850 would be better.

8800GTS equivalent to 9600GT, really?

 

[cusideabelincoln]

Yeah I'm still unsure about how much I want to blow on a new card, would the 5830 be a good option at all? And sorry, I still can't find my PSU model, i'll have to crack open my pc and take a look.

The 5830 would be a good option, too. You would see a massive performance improvement.

I have fond memories of the 8800GTS 640 in SLI, but yes, a slight CPU OC and a 5850 would be better.

8800GTS equivalent to 9600GT, really?

Yeah, really. It's about equivalent to the 9600GT or GT240-GDDR5.

 

[RussianSensation]

8800GTS equivalent to 9600GT, really?

8800GTS 320/640MB versions are ~ equivalent to 9600GT but not 8800GTS 512 MB which is a faster card.

OP, overclock your processor too. It will likely do 3.3-3.4ghz with a slight voltage bump to 1.40V-1.425V.

You can compare 5770, 5830 and 5850 to a 9800GT which is faster than your card:
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/...arts-high-quality/Alien-vs-Predator,2228.html

Sum of all benchmarks at 1920x1200 4AA
5850 = 381
5830 = 326
5770 = 257
9800 = 158

Therefore, you are looking at 2x the performance increase with anything above 4890/5830 level. You may also want to wait for GTX460 from NV which launches July 12th. Those should be amazing overclockers and cost $250. Also, consider buying a used GTX275 or 4890 as they are both faster than a 5770 while performing similar to a 5830, but sell for less than $200.

 

[evolucion8]

While the 9600GT is half of the 8800GTS 512, it performed very close and often matched it, except in ultra high resolutions with lots of anti aliasing. I never knew if it was because of the PCI-E BUS overclocking that happened when the 9600GT was used or the 9600GT being a better balanced GPU.

 

[netxzero64]

go for 5850 FTW!

 

[Ancalagon44]

If you are happy with your current performance, then just wait for ATI's refresh due later this year. Cant remember what its called.

 

[RaistlinZ]

I say go with the 5850 and be happy.

 

[toyota]

While the 9600GT is half of the 8800GTS 512, it performed very close and often matched it, except in ultra high resolutions with lots of anti aliasing. I never knew if it was because of the PCI-E BUS overclocking that happened when the 9600GT was used or the 9600GT being a better balanced GPU.

the 9600gt never matched the 8800gts 512mb. you must be thinking of how the 9600gt was close to the 8800gt in many games.

 

[dug777]

I went from a 4850@800 core to a 5850 and even at stock the difference is night and day, once you start to overclock the 5850 there is just no comparison

 

[tincart]

Seems like the 5850 is overkill for that resolution. This gives you an easier upgrade path in the future - when do you think you will be upgrading your display? If that is a ways off in the future, then the suggestion to go for a 5770 or a 5830 (if at or below 200$) may be appropriate.

 

[happy medium]

Did I just here someone say overkill in the Enthusiast video section?
Watch your mouth boy.

Op, get a 5830 for 200$ and overclock it. Save yourself about 85$.