itsmeeh et. al., thanks for the detailed explanation of why you feel folks should just toss their Kingston spindles like you did. It's obvious that your CD-RW drive, burning software, PC etc. are all the cream of the crop and that the Kingston media are the only weak link in the chain. I must have a pretty f*d up setup or something because the Kingston 700MB/12x media burn just fine for me. Not a coaster yet.