80 y/o man loses dead wife's voicemail message because of upgrade

johnjohn320

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Not to sound unsympathetic, but...c'mon...it's a voicemail message. If it meant so much to him, he should have backed it up somehow.
 

thecoolnessrune

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My phone plan deletes any phone messages in voice mail every month.

I guess maybe they mean the actual recording they made in the system? If that's the case, and he wanted it that bad, he should ahve just recorded it. It's silly to rely on a company to save something that to most people don't even matter.

On another point, if I had to call him, I think it would be kinda creepy still getting ehr voice on the voicemail. Usually you're leaving a message for those who will actually listen to it later..
 

beat mania

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Calling your own number to listen to you dead wife's voice is just not right.
I bet his kids are glad its gone, otherwise they would've made a CD for him or something in the first place.
 

Viper GTS

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Sad story but I really fail to see any fault on Verizon's part.

I do hope for his sake they manage to find a copy of it, but I still can't fault them if they don't.

Viper GTS
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Not to sound unsympathetic, but...c'mon...it's a voicemail message. If it meant so much to him, he should have backed it up somehow.

you ever try and explain technology to 80 y/o peeps before?
 

se7en

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Its sad because he called it everyday and claimed to "rely on it". Back it up then if it's so imprtant. . . yeesh.
 

BrianH1

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Not to sound unsympathetic, but...c'mon...it's a voicemail message. If it meant so much to him, he should have backed it up somehow.

you ever try and explain technology to 80 y/o peeps before?

great point.
 

D1gger

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This is not verizon's fault. If he wanted to keep the message, it was his responsibility to get it off of their system in a reasonable period of time.
 

biggestmuff

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I saw this story earlier. I'm not very sympathetic. His only recording of her voice was on Verizon's system? He never owned a camcorder or voice recorder?
 

Miramonti

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Uhm...he's 80. At that age, all some people have left are their fading memories. Poor guy.
 

Viper GTS

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BTW it is not at all realistic to expect him to know how to accomplish a backup of a phone message. Hell he probably had no idea it was possible for verizon to lose it in the first place.

If anything I would have to wonder why his kids hadn't done something about it. Surely his kids, or grandkids could have worked something out for him (if they knew about it).

Blaming him is nearly as asinine as blaming Verizon.

Viper GTS
 

biggestmuff

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Originally posted by: BrianH1
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Not to sound unsympathetic, but...c'mon...it's a voicemail message. If it meant so much to him, he should have backed it up somehow.

you ever try and explain technology to 80 y/o peeps before?

great point.

Uh, he wasn't 80 when tape recorders and camcorders were invented.
 

zinfamous

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all you people faulting him for not backing up or having some other modern piece of technology to record voices...

...does it not strike you as impressive enough for an 80 year old man to have digital voice mail? C'mon...what elderly man is going to head out and buy a new mini DV or digital voice recorder? My grandmother (83) can barely figure out how to dial a proper phone number sometimes.
 

Pacfanweb

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Originally posted by: biggestmuff
Originally posted by: BrianH1
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Not to sound unsympathetic, but...c'mon...it's a voicemail message. If it meant so much to him, he should have backed it up somehow.

you ever try and explain technology to 80 y/o peeps before?

great point.

Uh, he wasn't 80 when tape recorders and camcorders were invented.
Yeah, he was in his 60's when they started becoming common. Still too old to teach new tricks, especially old-school, non-technologically-inclined folks like that.

My Grandma is 82 and still can't change her clocks and screws up the TV remote a lot.
 

se7en

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Originally posted by: zinfamous
all you people faulting him for not backing up or having some other modern piece of technology to record voices...

...does it not strike you as impressive enough for an 80 year old man to have digital voice mail? C'mon...what elderly man is going to head out and buy a new mini DV or digital voice recorder? My grandmother (83) can barely figure out how to dial a proper phone number sometimes.

He might be old but it didnt say he was stupid. It was a voicemail which was on a system he knew NOTHING about and could not actually touch in any fashion. If it was so valued when he got the letter telling him it would go away he would have asked "Hey how the F--K do I get this message onto something I can actually hold".

It sucks its gone but ignorance is never an excuse. If he had photos on a website I bet he would ask for prints. . .
 

Yreka

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Originally posted by: biggestmuff
I saw this story earlier. I'm not very sympathetic. His only recording of her voice was on Verizon's system? He never owned a camcorder or voice recorder?

I agree with this, but

Originally posted by: jjsole
Uhm...he's 80. At that age, all some people have left are their fading memories. Poor guy.

This is correct too.. Technical snafus happen.. Its a sad situation, but not anyones fault really.

Chalk it up to "Shit Happens"

 

jtvang125

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As long as verizon sent out notices about the changes and any messages left on the system could be lost then I can't find any fault with verizon.
 

D1gger

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My 83 year old Father-in-Law is on the net daily, sending emails, with attachments, scanning documents, etc. etc. So for those in this thread saying an old man can't learn new tricks are just making excuses for those who choose not to learn.
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: BrianH1
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Not to sound unsympathetic, but...c'mon...it's a voicemail message. If it meant so much to him, he should have backed it up somehow.

you ever try and explain technology to 80 y/o peeps before?

great point.
Exactly. People that age didn't grow up with stuff that is erased constantly with the flick of a switch. Once you had something, you had it. He probably assumed that HIS messages wouldn't just vanish one day, especially if Verizon is making an upgrade.


Originally posted by: D1gger
My 83 year old Father-in-Law is on the net daily, sending emails, with attachments, scanning documents, etc. etc. So for those in this thread saying an old man can't learn new tricks are just making excuses for those who choose not to learn.
They can, if they're willing to devote a lot of time to it. Most people just want things to work, they don't want to have to spend their remaining years learning how to use all the new gadgets. It's an unfortunate thing about a great deal of our of our technology: it isn't really user-friendly or truly intuitive. Maybe give it another 20 years, when touch-screen technology can be merged with OLED screens, cheaply (with some nice impact-resistant plastic in the way, for violence-prone individuals). If you can operate a screen by touch there is more potential to make it intuitive to people who are used to touching things, not moving a tiny arrow with a mouse, and right-clicking to get context menus.
 

Squisher

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About six months after my mom's death both my sister and I suggested to my dad to put a new outgoing message on his answering machine. It was just too upsetting calling him, getting the machine, and hearing her voice. I swapped out the tape and told him he could listen to it anytime he wanted.

 

Capt Caveman

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/odd_lost_voice

Verizon recovers man's missing recording

Tue Mar 18, 8:42 PM ET

IRVINGTON, N.Y. - An 80-year-old man can hear his late wife's voice again, any time he wants. Verizon has recovered a lost message recorded by Charles Whiting's wife, Catherine, before her death in 2005.

When Verizon upgraded the man's telephone service, his wife's voice disappeared from his voicemail system. The message said "Catherine Whiting," and her husband said he listened to it every day for comfort.

Company spokesman John Bonomo said Tuesday that a contractor found the recording in an archive and restored it to the new voicemail system.

Charles Whiting says he's very happy.