80 MIN CDR SUPPORT & HP CD WRITERS!!!

HoopDogg

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Hey! I have an HP Cd-Writer Plus 9300 series 9310i drive. It is IDE interface, 4 meg cache, 10X4X32X. Nice drive. HP's site says it support (with both the hardware and software) 80 min cdr's. I've tried in all of the HP software that came with the writer, yet I get the message that I need to insert a cd with more storage space, etc. Help anyone?
 

Mark R

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Try a different recording program - This wouldn't be the first time that HP have bundled incompatible software with their drives!

One of my favourites is Nero Burning ROM.

Download the free demo from http://www.ahead.de

 

NaughtyusMaximus

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On my HP 7200i (may it rest in peace), I could write to 80 minute CDRs fine, with any software. My favorite was Nero though. That message that you got telling you that there is not enough space on the CD is the exact same one that I get with mine when it died. :(

I'm hoping that this isn't your problem, to check, put a retail CD into the drive, and go to my computer. 'explore' the CD that you just inserted. If you can do this, then your drive is okay. :)

Sorry, I don't have anything else to add.
 

Tol

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I can usually store ~703MB of data or ~80min using an HP9110 and Easy CD Creator. I'd get that error if i tried to overload the disc too much.
 

HoopDogg

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My drive is fairly new, got it a couple months ago, and it's not dead. Explores fine! And it recognizes 80 min cdr's to have the same amount of clusters as 74 min. Also, Nero says Overburn is not supported. Can anyone else help?
 

JW310

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That message you're getting just means that you can't put more than ~650MB of stuff on a 74 minute CD, or ~700MB of stuff on an 80 minute CD. It doesn't mean that your burner does/does not support 80 minute CD-R media. Are you sure you're trying to burn to 80 minute media, and not 74 minute media when it tells you to insert a CD with more storage space?

[edit] Re-read the posts, and see that you did try it with 80-minute media as well. What I would do in that case is try other 80-minute media, just to make sure it's not just the media that it doesn't like.

JW
 

HoopDogg

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I'm very sure, I even used CRDID on the cd. The cdr info is this:
Gigastorage 2X - 12X CD-R 80min/700MB And with that cdr in, I get that message. Trying to burn Rammstein's Live Aus Berlin (great cd!!) which is about 78.5 min of audio.
 

JW310

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Can you post a screenshot of what CDRID shows the media to be? Perhaps two, one with 74 minute media in and one with 80 minute media in. Also - read my edit above.

JW
 

CAMS

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Hoopdog

You haven't got an error message, the software is telling you that overburning is not supported as is with many recorders.

Burning to a 80min CD is not overburing and most recorders will do this.

Overburning is burning 83min to an 80min CD or 77min to a 74min CD eg burning beyond the disk stated maxium.
 

randypj

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HoopDogg--Even POS old Sony and HP's will burn ~79:30 to an 80 minute, even though Sony would not officially support it.

Everyone's advice has been fine. Have you tried the newest version of Nero?

Is the Nero shareware or purchased?

Have you tried uninstalling/reinstalling Nero?

Did you say you previously had Acraptec installed?

ASPI layer shouldn't matter, but be sure you have the latest anyway.

Just for greens, try ripping some different .wavs to the harddrive, then setting up DAO mix of the .wavs at ~78:00. Also, cut your silence between tracks to 0 or 1 sec.

OR, what "Paulson" said.
--Randy
 

Auric

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Just to repeat, Sony/HP drives don't do overburning but they do do 80min. With EasyCD Creator 4, the disc size is chosen on the status bar at bottom. I have not tried Nero or Fireburner with an 80min disc yet as ECDC has been doing the job on my 9100i (9110i package).

I just upgraded the firmware from 1.0a to 1.0c last night. To my disgust, I had to dig out the original CD's and break them open for the first time and install a supplied proggy as well as ToolBox then uninstall the unwanted supplied proggy (Disaster Recovery) just to be able to run the update. Toolbox is required to be installed and it must be installed with at least one another proggy. Crazy.

Anyhoo, I have run into another weird thing so hopefully someone can help me out. I have been using Sony's DOS 'real-mode' drivers up to 2.27b (and 2.27bhp) with a Sony branded CD-ROM then a HP 8100i, and now the 9100i. However, these drivers are not actually designed for these drives and DOS is not even a "supported" OS anymore. I tried to restore an image from Win98 DOS and it was no-go. Luckily I had my dual-boot thang happening and could do it from Win00. Actually, I transfered the whole image to the HD then should have been able to do it from there. But then Ghost didn't give the option of restoring the image to the partition the image was of. It was greyed out and would only have allowed overwriting my hidden Win00 partition, even though I had booted from floppy! Ack. Well, I was able to extract enough files from the imgage on the HD and then copy them over in Win98 DOS to enable booting Win98 again.

So, my questions: what up wid Ghost not allowing a restore to any partition with enough space (especially the one the image was made of!) and what up wid restoring from the HP CD from DOS? I have not tried Win98's supplied EBD generic drivers yet. Do those work? Or must we make every backup CD bootable? That would be a pain since my BH6 would need it's BIOS boot sequence changed everytime I wanted to recover some files under DOS. For whatever queer reason they have not seen fit to include A/CD-ROM/C or CD-ROM/A/C as an option.

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Huh. Generic W98 EBD seems to work okay so I guess that's why co.'s are not writing their own drivers anymore. Oddly, on my test Ghost would allow restoring the partition image to the original partition (as it should) where it didn't before. Any idea why it might not have before? I have run into that in the past and it's real annoying.
 

vanderStoep

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Use nero burning rom. I have version 4 and it burns 80 min cdr. Adaptecs Easy CD creator (I have 4.0 and a demo of 2. something) does not burn 80 min cdrs for me.
 

LocutusX

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Hmmm. I have the 8110i and to allow me to use ALL of an 80 minute CD-R, I had to re-flash the BIOS with the latest SONY CRW100E firmware. Heh. So now my CD-RW thinks it's a Sony and the LED lights act a bit funny, but at least I can burn to 80 minute CD-R's just fine!
 

roaddog25

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hey i know this is off topic but i just bought a creative burner and i really don't know much about computers at all and i'm sure your all gonna laugh at this cause it'll be somethin stupid but i tried installing it and when i did the comp. doesn't recognize my d drive or the new burner.... i bought the same one for a different comp. and installed that one the same way and it worked fine but this one isn't working... any help would be nice.. thanks
 

Auric

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First thought: jumpers. Did you set the master and slave jumpers on the drives correctly? Generally the HD's should be on the first IDE channel and the CD's on the second.