8 Wyoming college athletes killed in head-on collision

LaBang

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[shrugs shoulders] much worse things happen all over the world every day. does anyone go posting "somalia's famine in its 3000th day. 30 children died today" (fake, but it happens)????
 

spanky

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WOW...must've been going pretty fast for all 7 passengers to get enjected from the SUV. i suddenly appreciate my automatic seatbelts a whole lot more.
 

TheKidd

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I am getting fed up with all the people who are dying because they aren't wearing seatbelts. Already this year 3 minor league baseball players have died because they weren't wearing seatbelts, now this. When will people fscking learn?!
 

NFS4

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<< [shrugs shoulders] much worse things happen all over the world every day. does anyone go posting "somalia's famine in its 3000th day. 30 children died today" (fake, but it happens)???? >>



I don't think that most of us can identify with starving people in Somalia. To tell you the truth, I personally don't pay much attention to deaths outside of the US. It's not that I don't care, it's just that what the hell am I gonna do about it:Q
 

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<< It's not that I don't care, it's just that what the hell am I gonna do about it >>

Well, what are you going to do about these deaths, besides post about them :)

I mean really, what difference is a death 2000 miles from you than it is 20,000 miles? It still involves a fellow human being's death..
 

mflacy

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Ya know what? If you don't know how to use your seatbelt, just ring your call button and Tommy will come back there and hit you on the head with a tackhammer because you are a retard.
 

NFS4

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<< It's not that I don't care, it's just that what the hell am I gonna do about it >>

Well, what are you going to do about these deaths, besides post about them :)

I mean really, what difference is a death 2000 miles from you than it is 20,000 miles? It still involves a fellow human being's death..
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At least here on campus, we can spread the word of not drinking & driving with rallies. We rally behind wearing seat belts at all times (North Carolina's "Click-it or ticket" campaign).

You're telling me that it's all the same if a college student your age is killed in a car wreck (someone that you can identify with) compared with someone dying in Somalia? I don't know about you, but it's NOT the same to me. Call me heartless, but that's just the way I see it:Q
 

GoldenBear

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Well, see, if I wanted to constantly mourn the deaths of people, I'd read the obituary, visit the hospital, or go to the cemetery. I mean, we have enough deaths as it is (I come from a pretty big family), why cloud up my mind with more?

I think that, the people of the US can have more sympathy for people in Timbuktu that have died, if it were shown on the news every night, in the same manner that these past deaths have been portrayed. If that were the case though, the country would be one sad place.

So where do you draw the line at exactly?
 

spanky

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<< So where do you draw the line at exactly? >>



along the pacific and atlantic coastlines. i think no matter what the media shows, anything that happens on our home soil takes precedence over things that don't. sounds kinda sh!tty, but thats the truth. its kinda like saying, if (god forbid) your uncle died of a heart attack here in the US, and someone in somalia died from falling off an elephant, which tragedy would u mourn more? if someone offered u plane tickets to attend the funeral services of either deceased, which one would u pick? thats just an example of how we as americans have an innate bias to certain events, just becuz its on american soil. just my $.02
 

NFS4

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<< So where do you draw the line at exactly? >>



along the pacific and atlantic coastlines. i think no matter what the media shows, anything that happens on our home soil takes precedence over things that don't. sounds kinda sh!tty, but thats the truth. its kinda like saying, if (god forbid) your uncle died of a heart attack here in the US, and someone in somalia died from falling off an elephant, which tragedy would u mourn more? if someone offered u plane tickets to attend the funeral services of either deceased, which one would u pick? thats just an example of how we as americans have an innate bias to certain events, just becuz its on american soil. just my $.02
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Close...I don't think that it's just b/c we americans can't identify with dying people in Somalia. I'm sure that Germans and English were saddened by the attacks on the WTC and the Pentagon. But they can identify with Americans, unlike you or I trying to identify with Somalians.
 

joohang

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Hate to admit this, but I felt more concerned about the death of Americans in WTC than those who died in Bosnia or Palestine. :(
 

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<< So where do you draw the line at exactly? >>



along the pacific and atlantic coastlines. i think no matter what the media shows, anything that happens on our home soil takes precedence over things that don't. sounds kinda sh!tty, but thats the truth. its kinda like saying, if (god forbid) your uncle died of a heart attack here in the US, and someone in somalia died from falling off an elephant, which tragedy would u mourn more? if someone offered u plane tickets to attend the funeral services of either deceased, which one would u pick? thats just an example of how we as americans have an innate bias to certain events, just becuz its on american soil. just my $.02
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Close...I don't think that it's just b/c we americans can't identify with dying people in Somalia. I'm sure that Germans and English were saddened by the attacks on the WTC and the Pentagon. But they can identify with Americans, unlike you or I trying to identify with Somalians.
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That's the problem :( We cannot continue to dehumanize people, wherever they are. I understand that it is easier to empathize with those close to us or "like us" but we really need to wake up and stop being so self-centered.
 

flavio

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<< if someone offered u plane tickets to attend the funeral services of either deceased, which one would u pick? >>



I'd rather see Africa than see PA for the billionth time.
 

kami

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They weren't wearing seatbelts? Well then of course I feel more sympathy for starving children in 3rd world countries. Most would probably still be alive if they had taken the extra 3 seconds to put on a seatbelt.
 

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<< its kinda like saying, if (god forbid) your uncle died of a heart attack here in the US, and someone in somalia died from falling off an elephant, which tragedy would u mourn more? if someone offered u plane tickets to attend the funeral services of either deceased, which one would u pick? thats just an example of how we as americans have an innate bias to certain events, just becuz its on american soil. just my $.02 >>

If it was my uncle in Somalia and a stranger in Maine let's say, then the choice is pretty obvious.

If it were two strangers, one from 3000 miles away the other 13,000 miles away, well then, there really isn't much of a difference to me.

I mean, in fact, I'm sure there have been at least a dozen people around my area, on the eastern seaboard (unrelated to the WTC stuff), China, India, Ghana, and Timbuktu that have died in the past day. Am I supposed to mourn all of them? Or am I even supposed to mourn the people within my area? I can easily read about their stories in the obituary--but I really think there's something...wrong for lack of a better word for someone who reads the obituary everyday and comes to tears about it.
 

kikokam

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it's sad that they died, but it's even sadder that they weren't wearing seatbelts to prevent something like this to happen
 

Bitek

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I've been on that highway, its a 2 lane highway in the middle of nowhere, with high speed limits, 65 or 75, but most people go 80 at least. Seatbelts might not of saved thier stupid asses anyway (esp in a deathtrap SUV.) Plus, people out west tend to not believe in seatbelts, (the old "better to be ejected" theory)