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Lifer
Feb 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: beer
So if you have no problems getting girls, why are you going after a girl 6 years younger than you? Doesn't that seem a bit...odd?

Listen to yourself :)


If a guy can get girls younger than him = good.... if not he ends up with 32+ year olds :p
 

Phlargo

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I totally understand your position here.

I had a girlfriend when I was 19 (who was 17 at the time) who had been with like 6 guys and I felt really weird about it. I gave it some time and in the end, felt just fine. Give it some time if she's worth it. Otherwise, move on, grow up and realize that there probably won't be many more virgins in your life.

Btw... virginity is way overrated.. Who wants a girl who doesn't know what she's doing? The worst thing is a girl who is totally uncomfortable with her body and can't enjoy anything. I'd much rather have a girl who at least has some experience with herself and knows how to 'enjoy'. :)
 

shimsham

Lifer
May 9, 2002
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Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Honestly, a woman that is able to give her body away so freely is likely a bit unstable and has a whore-ish mentality.

This has been my experience, it may not be true for others.



good point. just as a woman (most, from my experience) would prefer with a man, id rather have a woman in a serious relationship that already had that phase out of her system before i invested myself into it.

if the op really likes the girl, and has long-term serious intentions, he shouldnt just toss her to the side because shes been laid more than he would prefer.
 

GrantMeThePower

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Originally posted by: shimsham
Originally posted by: GrantMeThePower
Originally posted by: Ryan
Typical male reaction - gotta love social conditioning :roll: What the fvck does it matter?!?! - in reality, you're intimidated by a girl who has more experience at relationships.

To mask their own insecurities, men often jump to the whore/slut label.


Whoa. She does not have more experience at relationships. I've been in two one year relationships, a two year, and a three year. She's never dated anyone more than three months. Thats what my problem is. If she loved all those guys, i wouldn't have a problem with it, but its the fact that that many really cheapens the experience and makes it less special, and I don't think I can respect that view. Not that I condemn her, but its just hard for me to respect her. It isn't an intimidation thing. For all of her numbers she is still pretty inexperienced. When you're with someone a long time you try a lot more things and get a little crazier. She's never been like that, just with a lot of people. It creeps me out.



do you cry to your mom when you get laid?

:p


LOL. No. That was a pretty funny thread, though. I mean, I'm not some saint. But I do take my time and make sure that I really care about the person before moving on to that. When I do eventually get married, I don't want my wife to feel like I've slept with every chick I could. I want her to understand that she isn't just one of many.
 

Ryan

Lifer
Oct 31, 2000
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Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Honestly, a woman that is able to give her body away so freely is likely a bit unstable and has a whore-ish mentality.

This has been my experience, it may not be true for others.

What is wrong with a woman who actually LIKES sex?!! If this had been a woman complaining about her boyfriend - the issue woudl be almost non-existant because it's whats expected of men. It's all social conditioning, and the objectification of women - the need have a "pure woman" is bullsh!t.
 

JonnyBlaze

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May 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Honestly, a woman that is able to give her body away so freely is likely a bit unstable and has a whore-ish mentality.

This has been my experience, it may not be true for others.

What is wrong with a woman who actually LIKES sex?!! If this had been a woman complaining about her boyfriend - the issue woudl be almost non-existant because it's whats expected of men. It's all social conditioning, and the objectification of women - the need have a "pure woman" is bullsh!t.

exactly. its not how many guys a girl has been with that makes her a slut.

i personally havent liked virgins in a long time.
 

Phlargo

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Jul 21, 2004
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Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Honestly, a woman that is able to give her body away so freely is likely a bit unstable and has a whore-ish mentality.

This has been my experience, it may not be true for others.

What is wrong with a woman who actually LIKES sex?!! If this had been a woman complaining about her boyfriend - the issue woudl be almost non-existant because it's what's expected of men. It's all social conditioning, and the objectification of women - the need have a "pure woman" is bullsh!t.

Exactly! We have all these requirements for women that men aren't willing to impose on themselves. Well... many of them have the same requirements for us :)

My current gf has this belief that I shouldn't look at women or porn or anything and in the same right always asks me to download stuff for her and tells me about all the hot guys in her classes. <sigh>
 

ggnl

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Jul 2, 2004
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Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Honestly, a woman that is able to give her body away so freely is likely a bit unstable and has a whore-ish mentality.

This has been my experience, it may not be true for others.

What is wrong with a woman who actually LIKES sex?!! If this had been a woman complaining about her boyfriend - the issue woudl be almost non-existant because it's whats expected of men. It's all social conditioning, and the objectification of women - the need have a "pure woman" is bullsh!t.

Your point assumes that the OP is a hypocrite. But given that he practices what he preaches, what's wrong with him wanting a woman that holds herself to the same standard that he does?
 

shimsham

Lifer
May 9, 2002
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Originally posted by: GrantMeThePower
Originally posted by: shimsham
Originally posted by: GrantMeThePower
Originally posted by: Ryan
Typical male reaction - gotta love social conditioning :roll: What the fvck does it matter?!?! - in reality, you're intimidated by a girl who has more experience at relationships.

To mask their own insecurities, men often jump to the whore/slut label.


Whoa. She does not have more experience at relationships. I've been in two one year relationships, a two year, and a three year. She's never dated anyone more than three months. Thats what my problem is. If she loved all those guys, i wouldn't have a problem with it, but its the fact that that many really cheapens the experience and makes it less special, and I don't think I can respect that view. Not that I condemn her, but its just hard for me to respect her. It isn't an intimidation thing. For all of her numbers she is still pretty inexperienced. When you're with someone a long time you try a lot more things and get a little crazier. She's never been like that, just with a lot of people. It creeps me out.



do you cry to your mom when you get laid?

:p


LOL. No. That was a pretty funny thread, though. I mean, I'm not some saint. But I do take my time and make sure that I really care about the person before moving on to that. When I do eventually get married, I don't want my wife to feel like I've slept with every chick I could. I want her to understand that she isn't just one of many.



i hear ya. but why pass up on a potentially good woman? does she fit the shoe in most other areas? if shes hot and fun-loving, two great traits, then what do you expect her to act like? miss out on fun that you can only have when young and single?
 

Ryan

Lifer
Oct 31, 2000
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Originally posted by: ggnl
Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Honestly, a woman that is able to give her body away so freely is likely a bit unstable and has a whore-ish mentality.

This has been my experience, it may not be true for others.

What is wrong with a woman who actually LIKES sex?!! If this had been a woman complaining about her boyfriend - the issue woudl be almost non-existant because it's whats expected of men. It's all social conditioning, and the objectification of women - the need have a "pure woman" is bullsh!t.

Your point assumes that the OP is a hypocrite. But given that he practices what he preaches, what's wrong with him wanting a woman that holds herself to the same standard that he does?

No - I'm saying that the standards for "purity" for both sexes are bullsh!t.
 

shimsham

Lifer
May 9, 2002
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Originally posted by: Phlargo
Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Honestly, a woman that is able to give her body away so freely is likely a bit unstable and has a whore-ish mentality.

This has been my experience, it may not be true for others.

What is wrong with a woman who actually LIKES sex?!! If this had been a woman complaining about her boyfriend - the issue woudl be almost non-existant because it's what's expected of men. It's all social conditioning, and the objectification of women - the need have a "pure woman" is bullsh!t.

Exactly! We have all these requirements for women that men aren't willing to impose on themselves. Well... many of them have the same requirements for us :)

My current gf has this belief that I shouldn't look at women or porn or anything and in the same right always asks me to download stuff for her and tells me about all the hot guys in her classes. <sigh>


you are her bitch.
 

GrantMeThePower

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Jun 10, 2005
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Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Honestly, a woman that is able to give her body away so freely is likely a bit unstable and has a whore-ish mentality.

This has been my experience, it may not be true for others.

What is wrong with a woman who actually LIKES sex?!! If this had been a woman complaining about her boyfriend - the issue woudl be almost non-existant because it's whats expected of men. It's all social conditioning, and the objectification of women - the need have a "pure woman" is bullsh!t.


Wait a second here man. Its "social conditiong" also to say that ANYONE, male or female, ought to just have sex, (or at the least that it is ok to just have sex) because its fun or pleasureable. Sure, nature tells us that we have to do it. But as thinking creatures (especially ones that have a goal of being with someone for life) we should be able to control those urges. I expect the same out of myself, and am not saying only she or only women should limit their partners, but men as well. I am not, however, dating men, so that was not part of my argument.

Why is it bulls!t to want someone who would treat the act as special as you do?
 

JonnyBlaze

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May 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: GrantMeThePower
Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Honestly, a woman that is able to give her body away so freely is likely a bit unstable and has a whore-ish mentality.

This has been my experience, it may not be true for others.

What is wrong with a woman who actually LIKES sex?!! If this had been a woman complaining about her boyfriend - the issue woudl be almost non-existant because it's whats expected of men. It's all social conditioning, and the objectification of women - the need have a "pure woman" is bullsh!t.


Wait a second here man. Its "social conditiong" also to say that ANYONE, male or female, ought to just have sex, (or at the least that it is ok to just have sex) because its fun or pleasureable. Sure, nature tells us that we have to do it. But as thinking creatures (especially ones that have a goal of being with someone for life) we should be able to control those urges. I expect the same out of myself, and am not saying only she or only women should limit their partners, but men as well. I am not, however, dating men, so that was not part of my argument.

Why is it bulls!t to want someone who would treat the act as special as you do?

its the social conditioning that makes you think it matters. having sex with someone doesnt change who you are.
 

iamtrout

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Nov 21, 2001
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Sex is only special when you come. My mission is to devirginate as many girls as possible, and I don't regret any of it. Get her, screw her, dump her, move on. Significant others are overrated.
 

Ryan

Lifer
Oct 31, 2000
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Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze
Originally posted by: GrantMeThePower
Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Honestly, a woman that is able to give her body away so freely is likely a bit unstable and has a whore-ish mentality.

This has been my experience, it may not be true for others.

What is wrong with a woman who actually LIKES sex?!! If this had been a woman complaining about her boyfriend - the issue woudl be almost non-existant because it's whats expected of men. It's all social conditioning, and the objectification of women - the need have a "pure woman" is bullsh!t.


Wait a second here man. Its "social conditiong" also to say that ANYONE, male or female, ought to just have sex, (or at the least that it is ok to just have sex) because its fun or pleasureable. Sure, nature tells us that we have to do it. But as thinking creatures (especially ones that have a goal of being with someone for life) we should be able to control those urges. I expect the same out of myself, and am not saying only she or only women should limit their partners, but men as well. I am not, however, dating men, so that was not part of my argument.

Why is it bulls!t to want someone who would treat the act as special as you do?

its the social conditioning that makes you think it matters. having sex with someone doesnt change who you are.

Ding ding ding! We have a winnar!
 

JonnyBlaze

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May 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: iamtrout
Sex is only special when you come. My mission is to devirginate as many girls as possible, and I don't regret any of it. Get her, screw her, dump her, move on. Significant others are overrated.

find an experienced girl. virgins are really over rated.
 

ggnl

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Jul 2, 2004
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Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: ggnl
Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Honestly, a woman that is able to give her body away so freely is likely a bit unstable and has a whore-ish mentality.

This has been my experience, it may not be true for others.

What is wrong with a woman who actually LIKES sex?!! If this had been a woman complaining about her boyfriend - the issue woudl be almost non-existant because it's whats expected of men. It's all social conditioning, and the objectification of women - the need have a "pure woman" is bullsh!t.

Your point assumes that the OP is a hypocrite. But given that he practices what he preaches, what's wrong with him wanting a woman that holds herself to the same standard that he does?

No - I'm saying that the standards for "purity" for both sexes are bullsh!t.

I'm not even going to get into that arguement. I'm just going say that I disagree.

I'm not a slut, and I don't date sluts.
 

shimsham

Lifer
May 9, 2002
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Originally posted by: ggnl
Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: ggnl
Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Honestly, a woman that is able to give her body away so freely is likely a bit unstable and has a whore-ish mentality.

This has been my experience, it may not be true for others.

What is wrong with a woman who actually LIKES sex?!! If this had been a woman complaining about her boyfriend - the issue woudl be almost non-existant because it's whats expected of men. It's all social conditioning, and the objectification of women - the need have a "pure woman" is bullsh!t.

Your point assumes that the OP is a hypocrite. But given that he practices what he preaches, what's wrong with him wanting a woman that holds herself to the same standard that he does?

No - I'm saying that the standards for "purity" for both sexes are bullsh!t.

I'm not even going to get into that arguement. I'm just going say that I disagree.

I'm not a slut, and I don't date sluts.



define slut.
 

Bumrush99

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Jun 14, 2004
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Originally posted by: Ryan

What is wrong with a woman who actually LIKES sex?!! If this had been a woman complaining about her boyfriend - the issue woudl be almost non-existant because it's whats expected of men. It's all social conditioning, and the objectification of women - the need have a "pure woman" is bullsh!t.

Listen, I don't have any agenda. I have been in numerous long term relationships, and my PERSONAL experiences have led me to believe that women that have slept around are a lot less trustworthy and less stable. A woman that reserves sex for trusted partners and waits before having sex is a lot sexier to me than a woman that I can bang after a couple of dates.

Assuming you are correct about how society places judgement on women that sleep around, then does it also say something about women that don't respect their bodies?
 

Phlargo

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Can anyone say.. :camera: FTW? Maybe a quick look at her will solve all the debates!
 

GrantMeThePower

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Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze
Originally posted by: GrantMeThePower
Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Honestly, a woman that is able to give her body away so freely is likely a bit unstable and has a whore-ish mentality.

This has been my experience, it may not be true for others.

What is wrong with a woman who actually LIKES sex?!! If this had been a woman complaining about her boyfriend - the issue woudl be almost non-existant because it's whats expected of men. It's all social conditioning, and the objectification of women - the need have a "pure woman" is bullsh!t.


Wait a second here man. Its "social conditiong" also to say that ANYONE, male or female, ought to just have sex, (or at the least that it is ok to just have sex) because its fun or pleasureable. Sure, nature tells us that we have to do it. But as thinking creatures (especially ones that have a goal of being with someone for life) we should be able to control those urges. I expect the same out of myself, and am not saying only she or only women should limit their partners, but men as well. I am not, however, dating men, so that was not part of my argument.

Why is it bulls!t to want someone who would treat the act as special as you do?

its the social conditioning that makes you think it matters. having sex with someone doesnt change who you are.

Nah, man, its economics. The rarer something is, the more valuable. The more common, the less valuable. I CHOOSE to keep sex valuable in my life, and I want someone who also thinks of it as a special act. It has nothing to do with social conditioning. Its economics.
 

cKGunslinger

Lifer
Nov 29, 1999
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Originally posted by: Ryan
Typical male reaction - gotta love social conditioning :roll: What the fvck does it matter?!?! - in reality, you're intimidated by a girl who has more experience at relationships.

To mask their own insecurities, men often jump to the whore/slut label.

QFT.


Why does Ryan know more about mature heterosexual relationships that 90% of ATOT'ers? :confused: