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8 core 3.6 GHz AMD FX processor questions

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Idontcare said:
the 8150 wins some and the 2500K wins some.

If you encode/transcode/mega-task then the 8150 is better. If you game or do mere multi-tasking then the 2500K is probably better for you.

But under no circumstances does the cost of side-grading from a 2500K to an FX-8150 make sense. If you've already got the 2500K then you'd be better served buying an SSD or waiting for Trinity/IB before upgrading.
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Idontcare said:
Thinks? Tricking you?

The OP of the thread kinda speaks for itself, doesn't it? No one here is tricking you, we are all kinda wondering who has tricked you though.

A comparison between the 2500K and the FX-8150 shows they are comparable, the 8150 wins some and the 2500K wins some.

It really comes down to what the person is doing with their computer. If you encode/transcode/mega-task then the 8150 is better. If you game or do mere multi-tasking then the 2500K is probably better for you.

But under no circumstances does the cost of side-grading from a 2500K to an FX-8150 make sense. If you've already got the 2500K then you'd be better served buying an SSD or waiting for Trinity/IB before upgrading.
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Agree 100% with you. I would add that BD only really makes sense for a person who already has a AM3+ board. All performance metrics equal, the power consumption and future upgrade path of 1155 is so much better. That said, the X6 is probably more tempting for most existing AMD board owners anyway.

This puts BD in a bad spot, because existing customers buy X6 and new platform builders choose Intel. AMD almost has to artificially EOL the X6 if they want more BD sales, but that could then drive more to Intel. Tough spot for them.

BD is only really compelling if you need it for a very specific purpose IMHO.
 
ExarKun333 said:
Agree 100% with you. I would add that BD only really makes sense for a person who already has a AM3+ board. All performance metrics equal, the power consumption and future upgrade path of 1155 is so much better. That said, the X6 is probably more tempting for most existing AMD board owners anyway.

This puts BD in a bad spot, because existing customers buy X6 and new platform builders choose Intel. AMD almost has to artificially EOL the X6 if they want more BD sales, but that could then drive more to Intel. Tough spot for them.

BD is only really compelling if you need it for a very specific purpose IMHO.
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Their fx6100 would get my vote if the chip was $130 and not $150 but killing the x6 would really suck and competition will be almost gone.

Their x6 1100t is their prize goose the 8 core chips are useless for $200 you can buy a much quicker i5 2500k for a bit more...the fx6100 could sell to someone in a pinch who doesn't want a x4 but can't afford a 1090t.
 
What is this spikes in CPU usage your talking my friend ?

Your CPU @ 4.5Ghz is known to handle the bulldozer,, why you want to throw your money away on a pointless upgrade ???

It has 8 cores, but so does Intel , if you use 64 bit HT app. Which I use, DAW Sonar X1c Producer ,,, or if you use adobe Premiere or Sony Vegas , the 8 core FX bulldozer will shine in these apps. If your not using the above apps,, stop thinking about this and just chill with your 4.5GHz Sandy,, I mean theres kids dying everyday in Africa ..and here you are literally wanting to throw away hundreds of dollars for no reason.

Maybe is your COCD ,, computer obsessive compulsive disorder but your Sandy @ 4.5Ghz will handle anything you throw at it including Premiere and DAW etc....

stop looking at the cpu usage, it should be 1 percent or 0 percent ,,, listeng to winamp and surfing. Look at your task manager maybe something is taking that CPU usage,, that shouldnt be there, a virus or a stupid app.. ghmmmmmm GL
 
skipsneeky2 said:
Their fx6100 would get my vote if the chip was $130 and not $150 but killing the x6 would really suck and competition will be almost gone.

Their x6 1100t is their prize goose the 8 core chips are useless for $200 you can buy a much quicker i5 2500k for a bit more...the fx6100 could sell to someone in a pinch who doesn't want a x4 but can't afford a 1090t.
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Great point. BD would be more compelling if it was $100 (2-module), $130 (3-module), $160 (4-module low-Ghz), and $199 (4-module high-Ghz). Where it's at right now is pretty silly when putting it next to AMD's own legacy offerings.
 
soccerballtux said:
uninstall your windows 7 patches. If I twitch my mouse my CPU usage spikes to about 20%. Basically, they're packaging back in the bloat from Vista courtesy the Wintel alliance. I uninstalled all the "security" patches from my netbook (only about 30 of them IE not nearly as many as have been released) and it ran about 20% faster.
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Completely hilarious. Thanks, I needed a laugh.
 
I'm pretty sure that Windows 7 does a lot of stuff in the background when it is idle (especially if it knows it is plugged in). Think file indexing, etc.

OP, I wouldn't worry about that sort of thing unless you're noticing some specific performance issue. And with a 2500K, if you are having performance issues, it almost definitely isn't the CPU, unless something is broken. Like the fan fell off 😀
 
I know a solution to the problem.... uninstall Norton Internet Security (if you have it)

It was spiking my cpu usage on core 2 and 4 to 25% every 5 seconds. I uninstalled it and the issue went away. I just need to find a better antivirus program that isn't so resource intensive. I have owned the 2500k and 2600k. I currently went back to a 2500k and to be honest, I don't feel a difference in performance at all between the two.
 
Uhm, when is 16% a spike? As long as the system doesn't feel bogged down, then quit looking at charts. Reinstall windows if you aren't satisfied, it certainly isn't the processor.
 
If your cpu spikes and then settles back down immediately, it is being efficient when called upon to act. Nothing wrong with it.
 
We don't really buy CPU's just to watch task manager and hope the CPU utilization never goes double-digit, do we?

Why have the chip if you plan to keep it idling 99% of the time?

If the biggest concern I had over my CPU was that it occasionally sees 20-30% utilization when I am doing xyz then the conversation I would be having is one along the lines of "should I see this CPU to get a cheaper one and use the leftover proceeds to buy more HopDevil IPA beer?"
 
SLK said:
I know a solution to the problem.... uninstall Norton Internet Security (if you have it)

It was spiking my cpu usage on core 2 and 4 to 25% every 5 seconds. I uninstalled it and the issue went away. I just need to find a better antivirus program that isn't so resource intensive. I have owned the 2500k and 2600k. I currently went back to a 2500k and to be honest, I don't feel a difference in performance at all between the two.
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Try Avast if you haven't all ready.
 
Idontcare said:
We don't really buy CPU's just to watch task manager and hope the CPU utilization never goes double-digit, do we?

Why have the chip if you plan to keep it idling 99% of the time?

If the biggest concern I had over my CPU was that it occasionally sees 20-30% utilization when I am doing xyz then the conversation I would be having is one along the lines of "should I see this CPU to get a cheaper one and use the leftover proceeds to buy more HopDevil IPA beer?"
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Love this post!

BTW - my CPU utilization just jumped to 2% after posting this...
 
Idontcare said:
We don't really buy CPU's just to watch task manager and hope the CPU utilization never goes double-digit, do we?

Why have the chip if you plan to keep it idling 99% of the time?

If the biggest concern I had over my CPU was that it occasionally sees 20-30% utilization when I am doing xyz then the conversation I would be having is one along the lines of "should I see this CPU to get a cheaper one and use the leftover proceeds to buy more HopDevil IPA beer?"
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Off topic:

If you like hoppy beers, this is 'the one'. 🙂

http://www.bellsbeer.com/brands/19-Hopslam Ale
 
SLK said:
I know a solution to the problem.... uninstall Norton Internet Security (if you have it)

It was spiking my cpu usage on core 2 and 4 to 25% every 5 seconds. I uninstalled it and the issue went away. I just need to find a better antivirus program that isn't so resource intensive. I have owned the 2500k and 2600k. I currently went back to a 2500k and to be honest, I don't feel a difference in performance at all between the two.
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Microsoft Security Essentials, free and extremely lightweight. There is a beta out for their 4.0 version too that is even more lightweight than the current release. Personally I feel it's the best free and most non-intrusive AV out there.
 
16% spike when maximizing task manager. Something is not right with your system. Do a clean win7 install before touching the hardware I'd say.
 
Nintendesert said:
Microsoft Security Essentials, free and extremely lightweight. There is a beta out for their 4.0 version too that is even more lightweight than the current release. Personally I feel it's the best free and most non-intrusive AV out there.
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This.

I use my computer for audio production, and I need anything running in the background to be as lightweight as possible. MSSE works great for me.
 
I heard that the poor benchmark results of 8150 is because Windows 7 are not optimized to 8 cores. Windows 7 actually sees the 8 physical cores as logical cores. But in the cause of MAC it seems it utilizes all 8 cores. So thats y I raise this to the geeks here :colbert:

Since i have planned to upgrade my PC from Pentium 4 😛 to a gaming PC :biggrin: wanted to if it is worth buying Bulldozer 8150. :awe: :hmm:
 
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