7970 oc vs 680 oc

[aaksheytalwar]

CONDITIONS

All games (and/or settings of a game) where minimum FPS > 60 for both cards have been ignored (exception Skyrim)

Only real world benchmarks have been used.

Maximum FPS have not been taken into consideration.

Hardware Heaven

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/revie...-580-oc-performance-review-battlefield-3.html

680 OC 1218 7096

7970 1265 6020


BF3

1080p 4x AA 16x AF

Avg FPS
680 OC 76
7970 OC 69
680 is 10% faster

Min FPS
680 57
7970 45
680 is 13% faster

57x10 4x 16x

Avg FPS
680 OC 30
7970 OC 30
680 is 0% faster

Min FPS
680 22
7970 25
680 is 12% slower

Overall 1080p 680 is 11.5% faster
Overall Eyefinity 680 is 6% slower
Overall 680 is 6% faster


Skyrim

1080p 8x AA plus FXAA plus 16x AF

Avg FPS
680 OC 108
7970 OC 98
680 is 11% faster

Min FPS
680 70
7970 75
680 is 7% slower

57x10 8x plus fxaa plus 16x

Avg FPS

680 OC 57
7970 OC 56
680 is 1% faster

Min FPS
680 44
7970 42
680 is 5% faster

Overall 1080p 680 is 2% faster
Overall Eyefinity 680 is 3% faster
Overall 680 is 2.5% faster


Shogun 2

1080p 16x AF

Avg FPS
680 OC 61
7970 OC 61
680 is 0% faster

Min FPS
680 29
7970 26
680 is 12% faster

57x10 16x AF

Avg FPS
680 OC 21
7970 OC 28
680 is 25% slower

Min FPS
680 17
7970 22
680 is 23% slower

Overall 1080p 680 is 6% faster
Overall Eyefinity 680 is 24% slower
Overall 680 is 9% slower


Batman

There was no benchmark for 680 OC without Physx. So we benchmark 680 reference VS 7970 reference here.

1080p fxaa 16x AF

Avg FPS
680 91
7970 94
680 is 3% slower

Min FPS
680 45
7970 52
680 is 13% slower

Batman didn’t have 680 without physx for 57x10.
Overall 1080p 680 is 8% slower


F1 2011

57x10 8x 16x

Avg FPS
680 OC 65
7970 OC 72
680 is 10% slower

Min FPS
680 53
7970 63
680 is 16% slower

Overall Eyefinity 680 is 13% slower


Star Wars

57x10

Avg FPS
680 OC 62
7970 OC 72
680 is 14% slower

Min FPS
680 49
7970 57
680 is 14% slower

Overall Eyefinity 680 is 14% slower


WoW

57x10

Avg FPS
680 OC 78
7970 OC 75
680 is 4% faster

Min FPS
680 52
7970 44
680 is 18% faster

Overall Eyefinity 680 is 11% faster


Mass Effect 3 AA 16x AF

57x10

Avg FPS
680 OC 85
7970 OC 80
680 is 6.25% faster

Min FPS
680 64
7970 50
680 is 28% faster

Overall Eyefinity 680 is 17% faster


OVERALL

Avg FPS at 1080p
680 is 6% faster.

Min FPS at 1080p
680 is 6% faster.

Overall performance at 1080p
680 is 6% faster.

Avg FPS at Eyefinity
680 is 4% approx slower

Min FPS at Eyefinity
680 is 4% approx slower

Overall performance at Eyefinity
680 is approx is approx 6% slower

Overall avg performance across both rez
680 is 1% faster

Overall min performance across both rez
680 is 1% faster

Overall Winner at 1080p
In this choice of games 680 is better but not noticeable and may change with the game set.

Overall Winner at Eyefinity
In this choice of games 7970 is better but not noticeable and may change with the game set.

Overall Winner
Depends on your requirement, based, preferences etc.
Different websites will show difference in stats, in Overclock3D 7970 was 5% better, in many websites 680 is 5-10% better.
It depends on your requirement. If you want long term use, go 7970. If you will upgrade within a year, 680/670 is likely to be a bit better.
Let me know if I need to do analysis of more websites

 

[SickBeast]

http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=29157

That's a very thorough article with tons of games tested. The results were close but the GTX 680 won overall and consumed less power and generated less heat.

 

[Don Karnage]

Who cares about a 680 vs 7970 comparo. The 670 has made it irrelevant

 

[Jaydip]

Hey OP didn't we know that already?

 

[Jaydip]

Who cares about a 680 vs 7970 comparo. The 670 has made it irrelevant

I do about 680 as i am getting one

 

[aaksheytalwar]

Exactly my point, a 7970 and 680 are within 5-7% of each other with individual victories in different games.

A 670 is at least 5%+ slower than a 680 so right on target with a 7970, maybe 1-5% slower in some games, but nearly close. For $50 less it is a better deal I agree. But if you forget about the price, it isn't a better card in anyway, while 680 is a bit better. Not worth another $100 maybe, but definitely worth $20-30 extra.

If I could get 7970 and 670 both for $400, I would go for 7970. But if 7970 is $450, then 670 is a better deal, unless you plan to stick for 1.5-2 years with it which itself makes no sense imo.

 

[Don Karnage]

I do about 680 as i am getting one

Are you mad? The 670 is just as fast

 

[Silverforce11]

Also note that 7950 OC vs 7970 OC is only ~5% difference.

 

[Jaydip]

Are you mad? The 670 is just as fast

The 670 PCB stinks I am getting the ASUS DC II 680 dude.670 is an excellent card no doubt about that but i always buy the top single gpu dog every time,may be a bit foolish but personal preference u know :biggrin:

 

[Don Karnage]

Also note that 7950 OC vs 7970 OC is only ~5% difference.

I don't think i've ever seen a 1250 core 7950 benchmarked

 

[aaksheytalwar]

I don't think i've ever seen a 1250 core 7950 benchmarked

Me neither

 

[Grooveriding]

Are you mad? The 670 is almost as fast once overclocked

Corrected.

Would still get a 670 if I were being cost conscious though. It is very close.

All those marginal 5-10% gains for over expenditures add up to something of some note to some users though; 680OC>670OC, 32PCIE3.0 lanes in SLI>16PCIE3.0 lanes in SLI and so forth. :awe:

 

[aaksheytalwar]

Corrected.

Would still get a 670 if I were being cost conscious though. It is very close.

All those marginal 5-10% gains for over expenditures add up to something of some note to some users though; 680OC>670OC, 32PCIE3.0 lanes in SLI>16PCIE3.0 lanes in SLI and so forth. :awe:

+1

 

[Don Karnage]

Corrected.

Would still get a 670 if I were being cost conscious though. It is very close.

All those marginal 5-10% gains for over expenditures add up to something of some note to some users though; 680OC>670OC, 32PCIE3.0 lanes in SLI>16PCIE3.0 lanes in SLI and so forth. :awe:

The thread i threw together was just a mash full of benchmarks. Reference vs reference the edge goes to the 7970. If we throw in cards like the 670 windforce that can hit over 1300 boost core the 670 gets the edge.

 

[RussianSensation]

Great summary. I'll note though that 1265mhz is definitely on the high-end of the scale for HD7970 overclocking on air, but their memory overclock is paltry. I've seen 7970's hit 6700-7100mhz memory overclocks on air. OTOH, GTX680 1218mhz is on the lower end, at best average.

Asus GTX680 Top ships with 1201 mhz GPU boost out the box. I think it can easily be pushed past 1218mhz. Also, I have yet to see a high % of HD7970 cards hit 1250mhz+. The new stepping should make 7970 better in that regard.

Then the little things start to add up.

- A lot of 7970's have 2 year warranty vs. 3 for 670/680s
- 7970 has strong double precision/compute performance in certain programs
- 7970 now comes with 3 games and some have more adapters for multiple displays
- 7970 can support > 4 displays (but it gets costly)
- GTX680/670 have dual DL-DVI ports.
- NV has TXAA, Adaptive VSync, Ambient Occlusion in drivers, PhysX, CUDA
- 670/680s use up ~ 100W less power than a 1250mhz+ 7970
- With 3 monitors and enabled NVIDIA Surround, GTX 670/680 can operate at full idle regardless of whether DisplayPort is used or not. I realize it's a minor point but all these little points start to add up.

I think the real deal breaker for 680/7970 is the 670. Strictly for gaming, it's still hard to justify 680 or 7970 at this point when 670 delivers 95% of their performance for $100 less. When it comes time to resell 670/680/7970, that $100 I think is better spent to step up to the GTX770/HD8000 series where the added performance gain will be > 5-6%. I can see how the more affluent gamers often just want the best though.

 

[tviceman]

An AIB needs to pair the gtx680 with with 7ghz gddr5 vram and unlocked voltage control. THAT would be the card I'd go after.

 

[RussianSensation]

An AIB needs to pair the gtx680 with with 7ghz gddr5 vram and unlocked voltage control. THAT would be the card I'd go after.

The single determining factor that would have allowed 670/680 to clearly beat 7900 series. It's strange that NV didn't even let AIBs have the option to turn off GPU Boost and let users tweak voltages and GPU clocks using the traditional manual approach.

 

[tviceman]

The single determining factor that would have allowed 670/680 to clearly beat 7900 series. It's strange that NV didn't even let AIBs have the option to turn off GPU Boost and let users tweak voltages and GPU clocks using the traditional manual approach.

I'm guessing it will come eventually. But it still needs to be paired up with faster ram (assuming the memory controller can handle it).

 

[guskline]

aaksheytalwar: Thank you for the work in comparing the cards. I have a Pny GTX 680 in rig 2 below. I'm OC with EVGA precision and have it powering 3 24 inch 1920x1080 monitors in surround. Very smooth and powerful. Use mostly for flight sims but can easily play COD MW3 and BF3.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Exactly my point, a 7970 and 680 are within 5-7% of each other with individual victories in different games.

A 670 is at least 5%+ slower than a 680 so right on target with a 7970, maybe 1-5% slower in some games, but nearly close. For $50 less it is a better deal I agree. But if you forget about the price, it isn't a better card in anyway, while 680 is a bit better. Not worth another $100 maybe, but definitely worth $20-30 extra.

If I could get 7970 and 670 both for $400, I would go for 7970. But if 7970 is $450, then 670 is a better deal, unless you plan to stick for 1.5-2 years with it which itself makes no sense imo.

Not sure I follow...the 670 and 7970 are equal you say but you think it's not a better card when it is less power hungry?

 

[lehtv]

BF3

1080p 4x AA 16x AF

Avg FPS
680 OC 76
7970 OC 69
680 is 10% faster

Min FPS
680 57
7970 45
680 is 13% faster

57/45 = 1.2666 -> 27% faster

 

[toyota]

Great summary. I'll note though that 1265mhz is definitely on the high-end of the scale for HD7970 overclocking on air, but their memory overclock is paltry. I've seen 7970's hit 6700-7100mhz memory overclocks on air. OTOH, GTX680 1218mhz is on the lower end, at best average.

Asus GTX680 Top ships with 1201 mhz GPU boost out the box. I think it can easily be pushed past 1218mhz. Also, I have yet to see a high % of HD7970 cards hit 1250mhz+. The new stepping should make 7970 better in that regard.

Then the little things start to add up.

- A lot of 7970's have 2 year warranty vs. 3 for 670/680s
- 7970 has strong double precision/compute performance in certain programs
- 7970 now comes with 3 games and some have more adapters for multiple displays
- 7970 can support > 4 displays (but it gets costly)
- GTX680/670 have dual DL-DVI ports.
- NV has TXAA, Adaptive VSync, Ambient Occlusion in drivers, PhysX, CUDA
- 670/680s use up ~ 100W less power than a 1250mhz+ 7970
- With 3 monitors and enabled NVIDIA Surround, GTX 670/680 can operate at full idle regardless of whether DisplayPort is used or not. I realize it's a minor point but all these little points start to add up.

http://techreport.com/r.x/geforce-gtx-670/power-idle.gif

I think the real deal breaker for 680/7970 is the 670. Strictly for gaming, it's still hard to justify 680 or 7970 at this point when 670 delivers 95% of their performance for $100 less. When it comes time to resell 670/680/7970, that $100 I think is better spent to step up to the GTX770/HD8000 series where the added performance gain will be > 5-6%. I can see how the more affluent gamers often just want the best though.

I think you mean FXAA not TXAA. TXAA will be introduced in upcoming games and both AMD and Nvidia users can enable it from what I understand. FXAA is in the Nvidia control panel and can be used right now. sure makes games like Borderlands, Dead Space and GTA 4 look much better.

 

[chloros]

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Really spent all this time to justify your love for AMD?



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[special33]

as said 680 generates less heat and less power consumed
winner in my books

 

[chloros]

as said 680 generates less heat and less power consumed
winner in my books

Well the OP thinks that future games that haven't even been announced yet well favor the 7970. He also says if you plan on keeping the card long term past several years which coincides with future games....the 7970 is a win. Its also believed that the Mayans predicted the 7970 as the end of all cards. Im sure most of us here will upgrade 2 years from now on the next refresh.