7900GTX vs. X1900XTX - Consolidated Results

[beggerking]

how about adding extremetech and tomshardware reviews to the chart? both have good reviews.

 

[nib95]

Originally posted by: beggerking
how about adding extremetech and xbitlib reviews to the chart? both have good reviews.

I agree, and I still think HardOCP should be added.
I cant belive they could be that bias when lately they have pointed out many negative factors of Nvidia cards.

Once the Rage3D one goes up, you should definately add that too.

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: nib95

Originally posted by: beggerking
how about adding extremetech and xbitlib reviews to the chart? both have good reviews.

I agree, and I still think HardOCP should be added.
I cant belive they could be that bias when lately they have pointed out many negative factors of Nvidia cards.

Once the Rage3D one goes up, you should definately add that too.

HardOCP is very biased, doesn't matter if they mentioned the shimmer issue or not. The facts over the years speak for themselves:

1. Kyle defended nV's cheats while blasting ATi for the "quack" bit.
2. They welcome AEG trolls like Rollo to their forum.
3. When they were reviewing a system I believe that was made by Voodoo that had an ATi chipset in it, the BFG 7800 card was defective yet Kyle was quick to lay the blame on ATi.
4. In their X1900 review, they decided to speculate on an upcoming 32 pipe 7900 which of course we all know was a dream.
5. Their initial denial of the shimmer issue - they were criticized for it so much that they finally had no choice but to acknowledge it.
6. Their 7900 review performance numbers don't line up with everyone else - a lot of them are out of whack.

Don't want to derail Elfear's thread but I'm glad he didn't add in [nV]OCP to the chart.

 

[Yourself]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: nib95

Originally posted by: beggerking
how about adding extremetech and xbitlib reviews to the chart? both have good reviews.

I agree, and I still think HardOCP should be added.
I cant belive they could be that bias when lately they have pointed out many negative factors of Nvidia cards.

Once the Rage3D one goes up, you should definately add that too.

HardOCP is very biased, doesn't matter if they mentioned the shimmer issue or not. The facts over the years speak for themselves:

1. Kyle defended nV's cheats while blasting ATi for the "quack" bit.
2. They welcome AEG trolls like Rollo to their forum.
3. When they were reviewing a system I believe that was made by Voodoo that had an ATi chipset in it, the BFG 7800 card was defective yet Kyle was quick to lay the blame on ATi.
4. In their X1900 review, they decided to speculate on an upcoming 32 pipe 7900 which of course we all know was a dream.
5. Their initial denial of the shimmer issue - they were criticized for it so much that they finally had no choice but to acknowledge it.
6. Their 7900 review performance numbers don't line up with everyone else - a lot of them are out of whack.

Don't want to derail Elfear's thread but I'm glad he didn't add in [nV]OCP to the chart.

7. You were banned from there... 🙂


Although I do agree that there 7900 review is a bit whacked...

Thanks Elfear for you effort...I am going to slap an Accelero HSF on my 1900xt and take care of one of the few negatives associated with the x1900 line of cards...

 

[Cookie Monster]

I dont think we are looking at the full potential for this card.
I think ill wait for a offical drivers that support the cards. (Just like the X1800 when it was released)

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: Yourself

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: nib95

Originally posted by: beggerking
how about adding extremetech and xbitlib reviews to the chart? both have good reviews.

I agree, and I still think HardOCP should be added.
I cant belive they could be that bias when lately they have pointed out many negative factors of Nvidia cards.

Once the Rage3D one goes up, you should definately add that too.

HardOCP is very biased, doesn't matter if they mentioned the shimmer issue or not. The facts over the years speak for themselves:

1. Kyle defended nV's cheats while blasting ATi for the "quack" bit.
2. They welcome AEG trolls like Rollo to their forum.
3. When they were reviewing a system I believe that was made by Voodoo that had an ATi chipset in it, the BFG 7800 card was defective yet Kyle was quick to lay the blame on ATi.
4. In their X1900 review, they decided to speculate on an upcoming 32 pipe 7900 which of course we all know was a dream.
5. Their initial denial of the shimmer issue - they were criticized for it so much that they finally had no choice but to acknowledge it.
6. Their 7900 review performance numbers don't line up with everyone else - a lot of them are out of whack.

Don't want to derail Elfear's thread but I'm glad he didn't add in [nV]OCP to the chart.

7. You were banned from there... 🙂


Although I do agree that there 7900 review is a bit whacked...

Thanks Elfear for you effort...I am going to slap an Accelero HSF on my 1900xt and take care of one of the few negatives associated with the x1900 line of cards...

I was banned from there for calling out Rollo's b.s. Like I said, they welcome AEG trolls with open arms.

 

[Pantalaimon]

I was banned from there for calling out Rollo's b.s. Like I said, they welcome AEG trolls with open arms.

I think they even said something like people should be grateful for having AEG members in the forum 😛

 

[beggerking]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

1. Kyle defended nV's cheats while blasting ATi for the "quack" bit.
2. They welcome AEG trolls like Rollo to their forum.
3. When they were reviewing a system I believe that was made by Voodoo that had an ATi chipset in it, the BFG 7800 card was defective yet Kyle was quick to lay the blame on ATi.
4. In their X1900 review, they decided to speculate on an upcoming 32 pipe 7900 which of course we all know was a dream.
5. Their initial denial of the shimmer issue - they were criticized for it so much that they finally had no choice but to acknowledge it.
6. Their 7900 review performance numbers don't line up with everyone else - a lot of them are out of whack.

Don't want to derail Elfear's thread but I'm glad he didn't add in [nV]OCP to the chart.

1 both companies cheats
2 man, you really need to forget about the AEG, troll, etc.. its a flamebeit and unnecessary.. no one is here to troll or a member of AEG..

3 the 32pipe speculation was common to many websites, including extremetech
4 Ati chip in voodoo? Even if that is true, you can't generalize the credibility of a review site by just one single incident..
5 Many sites denied shimmer issue initially.. its been and have always been subjective, though it does exists.
6 proof? system configuration difference?

 

[Matt2]

One thing is undeniable.

If you want a multi-GPU system, there is no other choice but 7900GTX SLI

 

[beggerking]

Originally posted by: Matt2
One thing is undeniable.

If you want a multi-GPU system, there is no other choice but 7900GTX SLI

agreed. Crossfire is just not mature enough.. and the dongle is plain awful..

 

[RobertR1]

Originally posted by: Matt2
One thing is undeniable.

If you want a multi-GPU system, there is no other choice but 7900GTX SLI

Agreed. The 7900GT Sli is a kick ass setup!
Over the 7900GTX or the x1900xt/x I'd pick the x1900xt/x every time.

 

[Matt2]

Originally posted by: RobertR1

Originally posted by: Matt2
One thing is undeniable.

If you want a multi-GPU system, there is no other choice but 7900GTX SLI

Agreed. The 7900GT Sli is a kick ass setup!
Over the 7900GTX or the x1900xt/x I'd pick the x1900xt/x every time.

Not when we're talking about SLI vs. Crossfire.

7900GTX SLI clearly takes the crown X1900XTX by a pretty good margin. I think 7900GT SLI took a test or two from X1900XTX Crossfire.

 

[RobertR1]

Originally posted by: Matt2

Originally posted by: RobertR1

Originally posted by: Matt2
One thing is undeniable.

If you want a multi-GPU system, there is no other choice but 7900GTX SLI

Agreed. The 7900GT Sli is a kick ass setup!
Over the 7900GTX or the x1900xt/x I'd pick the x1900xt/x every time.

Not when we're talking about SLI vs. Crossfire.

7900GTX SLI clearly takes the crown X1900XTX by a pretty good margin. I think 7900GT SLI took a test or two from X1900XTX Crossfire.

If I went Sli, it'd be with the 7900GT's.
Dual GPU, sli or crossfire do not appeal to me at the flagship model levels. My second comment was comparing single cards.

 

[Ronin]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
I was banned from there for calling out Rollo's b.s. Like I said, they welcome AEG trolls with open arms.

Get over yourself, and this issue. It's over and done with, and yet you continually find stupid ways to bring it up. Same with your fanboism. Jesus, man, give it a rest.

 

[jim1976]

Very nice work indeed. :thumbsup:

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: Ronin

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
I was banned from there for calling out Rollo's b.s. Like I said, they welcome AEG trolls with open arms.

Get over yourself, and this issue. It's over and done with, and yet you continually find stupid ways to bring it up. Same with your fanboism. Jesus, man, give it a rest.

WTF are you blabbing about Ronin? It's not over and done with at Hard forums and that's what I was addressing. Facts are they DO embrace AEG trolls like Rollo and ban anyone that criticizes the b.s. he posts there, just because he got banned from here doesn't mean the AEG issue is magically gone.

 

[remagavon]

I just got an XTX. 🙂

 

[beggerking]

IMO AEG does not automatically associate with "troll" ..yet you called me "troll" and "AEG" in many threads here..

Time to give it a rest, its done and over.

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: beggerking
IMO AEG does not automatically associate with "troll" ..yet you called me "troll" and "AEG" in many threads here..

Time to give it a rest, its done and over.

You're not good enough to be in AEG - at least Trollo has some wit and the others in the program can compose a proper sentence.

 

[Matthias99]

Originally posted by: beggerking

Originally posted by: Matt2
One thing is undeniable.

If you want a multi-GPU system, there is no other choice but 7900GTX SLI

agreed. Crossfire is just not mature enough.. and the dongle is plain awful..

OMG IT HAS A DONGLE!

Give it a rest... nobody cares what they use to connect the cards, as long as it performs well. At least, people who actually care about things like performance or cost rather than how many lighted fans their case has. 😛

That said, SLI does seem to be more mature right now (although still not without its issues).

I really don't understand the assertion that the 7900GTX SLI is the "only choice" for a multi-GPU system; a 7900GT SLI is still way faster than any single card, especially if you can overclock them. Even a 7800GT SLI can beat pretty much anything except an X1900XTX. The 7900GTX SLI is clearly the fastest solution available right now, but it's far from the only viable one.

 

[beggerking]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: beggerking
IMO AEG does not automatically associate with "troll" ..yet you called me "troll" and "AEG" in many threads here..

Time to give it a rest, its done and over.

You're not good enough to be in AEG - at least Trollo has some wit and the others in the program can compose a proper sentence.

Are you questioning my skill? the last time I checked, whoever was arguing with me on my programming ability was not replying my PM when I challenged him back.

but any ways, you really are behaving like Rollo for ATI,, perhaps worse than that... At least Rollo doesn't throw senseless flaming like you do.. ( at least lately)

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: beggerking

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: beggerking
IMO AEG does not automatically associate with "troll" ..yet you called me "troll" and "AEG" in many threads here..

Time to give it a rest, its done and over.

You're not good enough to be in AEG - at least Trollo has some wit and the others in the program can compose a proper sentence.

Are you questioning my skill? the last time I checked, whoever was arguing with me on my programming ability was not replying my PM when I challenged him back.

but any ways, you really are behaving like Rollo for ATI,, perhaps worse than that... At least Rollo doesn't throw senseless flaming like you do.. ( at least lately)

Haha I rest my case.

 

[ChiSoxFan]

Is the lack of Nvidia HDR+AA something that can be fixed with a driver update or are you SOL with a current gen card? I have a 7800GT and am thinking about going to a 7900 GTX or X1900XT and am hoping to be able to use both with my 480W power supply, but the HDR+AA is something I'd like to have. BTW, nice summary to the original poster. That was very helpful.

 

[DeathReborn]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: nib95

Originally posted by: beggerking
how about adding extremetech and xbitlib reviews to the chart? both have good reviews.

I agree, and I still think HardOCP should be added.
I cant belive they could be that bias when lately they have pointed out many negative factors of Nvidia cards.

Once the Rage3D one goes up, you should definately add that too.

HardOCP is very biased, doesn't matter if they mentioned the shimmer issue or not. The facts over the years speak for themselves:

1. Kyle defended nV's cheats while blasting ATi for the "quack" bit.
2. They welcome AEG trolls like Rollo to their forum.
3. When they were reviewing a system I believe that was made by Voodoo that had an ATi chipset in it, the BFG 7800 card was defective yet Kyle was quick to lay the blame on ATi.
4. In their X1900 review, they decided to speculate on an upcoming 32 pipe 7900 which of course we all know was a dream.
5. Their initial denial of the shimmer issue - they were criticized for it so much that they finally had no choice but to acknowledge it.
6. Their 7900 review performance numbers don't line up with everyone else - a lot of them are out of whack.

Don't want to derail Elfear's thread but I'm glad he didn't add in [nV]OCP to the chart.

Give it a rest joker, you're fast headed nito the same areas Rollo did. Keep dragging up AEG and you'lljust end up hated and maybe even banned from AT. Stop calling everyone that doesn't agree with your OBVIOUS ATI BIAS a AEG "employee" or a "tRollo" as it just makes you look more and more desperate.

Hard[OCP] may well be biased BUT they are a much better source for information than you. So by your own standards you should stop posting benchmarks, opinions & ridiculous FUD so that threads can maintain their so called "unbiased purity".


What I want to see is 2048x1536 with AA & AF on SLI Setups and also 16x12 & 19x12/14 using OC'd X1900XT & XTX along with GT & GTX OC'd. I also want to see more Single vs Dual COre CPU's used in comparative tests so people can see the real world gaming performance difference.

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: ChiSoxFan
Is the lack of Nvidia HDR+AA something that can be fixed with a driver update or are you SOL with a current gen card? I have a 7800GT and am thinking about going to a 7900 GTX or X1900XT and am hoping to be able to use both with my 480W power supply, but the HDR+AA is something I'd like to have. BTW, nice summary to the original poster. That was very helpful.

nV can only do SSAA+HDR but with it comes a big performance penalty so not many devs use it although right now not a whole lot are using MSAA+HDR either. I think what you should really consider is the difference in AF quality between 7900/X1900 because in that regard, ATi >>nVidia.