7900GTO Arrived! But I lost performance?

[Reverend Sin]

With my 7800GTX I used to be able to have plenty of objects on the screen (World of Warcraft, 40 man raids, Orgrimmar at peak hours, mass PVP) with no drop in FPS, but I've noticed a HUGE drop in FPS on the 7900GTO when there are other people on the screen, but about a 46 point increase in the MAX FPS (which doesn't happen unless I'm the only person on the screen with nothing else around.

All in game video settings are the same, all updated drivers (that I know of etc) and no overclock on either. Any idea what I should do? Trying to PVP with 43FPS sucks and reminds me of my friends oldschool ATI and not the new expensive ATI I bought.

 

[Nightmare225]

Reinstall drivers first. Use Driver Cleaner Pro.

 

[BFG10K]

Did you remove your old drivers before you installed the new card?

 

[GundamSonicZeroX]

The only thing I can think of is what BFG10K and Nightmare have already said, or that WoW just has problems with newer cads as it seems to be on these boards.

 

[Reverend Sin]

Are the drivers on Nvidia's website the newest drivers? 91.47 forceware? Did the driver cleaner stuff and it didn't seem to help at all.

 

[Kromis]

50DKP MINUS!!!

Don't forget to OC it if possible and defrag weekly!

 

[Reverend Sin]

Heh, I'd like to OC it but I have absolutely no clue how to bring that about. I did however notice that the temperatures on this card as opposed to the passively cooled 7800GTX are WAY lower.

 

[enclavesaga]

this card runs red hot. Temp reads pretty cool in windows, but if you put your finger near the rear end(near the 6pin connector and above the black H/S), you'll probably get a blister, yeah, it's that hot, almost 83 on my thermal meter. Don't think this card will last long like this. Anyone have the tried this?

 

[Reverend Sin]

Doesn't seem to be running TOO hot to me, definitely not THAT hot, but it's way cooler than the 7800GTX was thats for sure.

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: enclavesaga
this card runs red hot. Temp reads pretty cool in windows, but if you put your finger near the rear end(near the 6pin connector and above the black H/S), you'll probably get a blister, yeah, it's that hot, almost 83 on my thermal meter. Don't think this card will last long like this. Anyone have the tried this?

Exactly, I'm having the same experience. It's burning up one of my HDDs in my P180 case right now.

 

[Navid]

Originally posted by: enclavesaga
this card runs red hot. Temp reads pretty cool in windows, but if you put your finger near the rear end(near the 6pin connector and above the black H/S), you'll probably get a blister, yeah, it's that hot, almost 83 on my thermal meter. Don't think this card will last long like this. Anyone have the tried this?

I ran rthdribl for 10 minutes.
http://www.daionet.gr.jp/~masa/rthdribl/

The temperature reported by ATITool rised and stabilized at 72. I could hold the pipe for about 3 seconds. Any longer, and it would be really uncomfortable.

The 6-pin connector was not that hot.

At idle, it shows 49.

I don't think this is unusual for a high-performance card. Amazing cooler! Great card!

 

[TanisHalfElven]

Originally posted by: Navid

Originally posted by: enclavesaga
this card runs red hot. Temp reads pretty cool in windows, but if you put your finger near the rear end(near the 6pin connector and above the black H/S), you'll probably get a blister, yeah, it's that hot, almost 83 on my thermal meter. Don't think this card will last long like this. Anyone have the tried this?

I ran rthdribl for 10 minutes.
http://www.daionet.gr.jp/~masa/rthdribl/

The temperature reported by ATITool rised and stabilized at 72. I could hold the pipe for about 3 seconds. Any longer, and it would be really uncomfortable.

The 6-pin connector was not that hot.

At idle, it shows 49.

I don't think this is unusual for a high-performance card. Amazing cooler! Great card! HOT RAM

FIXED

 

[Maximilian]

Originally posted by: Navid

Originally posted by: enclavesaga
this card runs red hot. Temp reads pretty cool in windows, but if you put your finger near the rear end(near the 6pin connector and above the black H/S), you'll probably get a blister, yeah, it's that hot, almost 83 on my thermal meter. Don't think this card will last long like this. Anyone have the tried this?

I ran rthdribl for 10 minutes.
http://www.daionet.gr.jp/~masa/rthdribl/

The temperature reported by ATITool rised and stabilized at 72. I could hold the pipe for about 3 seconds. Any longer, and it would be really uncomfortable.

The 6-pin connector was not that hot.

At idle, it shows 49.

I don't think this is unusual for a high-performance card. Amazing cooler! Great card!

Sounds about right, i just held the heatpipes with chronicles of riddick minimized (dont think its under any load with minimized games) and they just felt warm. If they get hot under load then... good, theyre supposed to.

I dont think the card will last long either if the original guy keeps poking it near the rear end

 

[redbox]

Originally posted by: enclavesaga
this card runs red hot. Temp reads pretty cool in windows, but if you put your finger near the rear end(near the 6pin connector and above the black H/S), you'll probably get a blister, yeah, it's that hot, almost 83 on my thermal meter. Don't think this card will last long like this. Anyone have the tried this?

This just can't be! I thought the current Nvidia chips where supposed to be the cool running chips of the market. That temp is close to the core temp on my x1950xtx at load! Maybe it's the plastic heatsink on my card that is keeping my temps so low. Long live ATI innovation.

 

[TheRyuu]

Originally posted by: redbox

Originally posted by: enclavesaga
this card runs red hot. Temp reads pretty cool in windows, but if you put your finger near the rear end(near the 6pin connector and above the black H/S), you'll probably get a blister, yeah, it's that hot, almost 83 on my thermal meter. Don't think this card will last long like this. Anyone have the tried this?

This just can't be! I thought the current Nvidia chips where supposed to be the cool running chips of the market. That temp is close to the core temp on my x1950xtx at load! Maybe it's the plastic heatsink on my card that is keeping my temps so low. Long live ATI innovation.

The core runs cool but the mosfets are the things that get hot.

First, OP, did you install the drivers correctly? (i.e. driver cleaner pro in safe mode after regular uninstall.

Second, USE BETTER DRIVERS (XG 92.91's)

Third, if the core is really that hot then you might want to try to re-seat the HSF. It's covered in the warrenty and with a HSF thats the same size as a GTX then you should be getting much lower temps then you say your are. Even with how unaccurate software monitors are, it still seems too high if its the temp of a X1950XTX.

Fourth, I really don't know.....

 

[Navid]

Originally posted by: wizboy11
Third, if the core is really that hot then you might want to try to re-seat the HSF.

Remove the cooler only if you have a better one or if you have unused thick thermal tape.
After you remove the cooler, the thermal tapes on the RAM will need to be replaced before you can use the same cooler. Using the old ones will only degrade the cooling of the RAM.

 

[Reverend Sin]

I haven't noticed any big heat problems on mine so far, any specific utilities/tools I should use to overclock it? This lack of performance is really bumming me out.

 

[Navid]

Originally posted by: Reverend Sin
I haven't noticed any big heat problems on mine so far, any specific utilities/tools I should use to overclock it? This lack of performance is really bumming me out.

I would first run 3DMark06 at stock clock rates. You can compare your score with others who have similar systems. Or, you can post here.
Post the three scores you get not just the sum.

You can use RivaTuner or ATITool (beta version 15) for overclocking. They also show your core temperature on your taskbar.

 

[TheRyuu]

Originally posted by: Reverend Sin
I haven't noticed any big heat problems on mine so far, any specific utilities/tools I should use to overclock it? This lack of performance is really bumming me out.

Thats why I suggest the better drivers with the proper way to uninstall the current ones.

There's no reason for this performance
You try OCing yet?

 

[AndrewL]

I wouldnt worry about overclocking it until you figure out why its not outperforming your old gtx. You have to remember the 7800gtx is a much more mature card. 7900gtx in this case gto is a much newer card so the drivers probably arent as refined for it yet.