7900GT: First thoughts

[Topweasel]

Originally posted by: Exsomnis

Originally posted by: ST
Honestly, there isn't much going in the way for 7900GTX's in terms of value, when you can volt mod OC a 7900GT.

The guy downgraded his card rather than fit a £25 cooler, you really think he is going to risk volt-modding a graphics card? Also, thanks for making a point for me; His 7900GT, even volt-modded, would never have the potential of an X1900XT. If you're overclocking both to the max, apples to apples, the X1900XT is still going to be the best choice, all he needed to do was go aftermarket if he cared so much about noise.

Originally posted by: ST
If he's happy with his card, who cares? As for x1800XTs "kicking the crap" out of 7900GT's, read this .

Where did I say that X1800XT's are kicking the crap out of "7900GTs"? Are you illiterate, or do you just enjoy making baseless straw man fallacies? :roll: Go back and read what I said, I in-fact said that X1800XT's are kicking the crap out of his score at stock. With that result he would've been better off sticking with his X1900XT and spending £25 on the amazing Zalman VF900-Cu, you know, like a person with half a brain.

Then why not get a 7900GTX, Nvidia going too expensive? You downgraded your card, for no reason at all no less. Like I said, there are X1800XTs kicking the crap out of that, not to mention that no Nvidia card can do HDR+AA in Oblivion or Far Cry, your X1900XT could. Compared to downgrading your card, spending a mere £25 on aftermarket cooling would've been a serious investment.

I read this Paragraph a couple of times and all I can get out of it is you saying that the X1800XT are kicking the crap out of the 7900GTs. Even if it was mean to cover the 3dmark05 scores, a retort what are the scores like for 06. He got money back on a card he didn't like and got a card cheaper that gave him the performance he desired, with less real world Limitations. Performance here and there is down but quality of life is up for him.

 

[Topweasel]

Originally posted by: hooflung
I think you did a good service to yourself. 115 bux can get you an MMO and 6 months subscription to it easy or a date with a pretty girl... maybe.

What do mean by "date" in my area the pretty ones always want just over 200. Here that will get you "date" with a decent looking girl with a drug habit and varing amounts of STDs.

 

[hooflung]

Originally posted by: Zap

Originally posted by: ST
hehe you act like i didn't own the one of the first mach 32 cards..

OMG those were a PITA because you had to load software VESA drivers to play DOS games in VESA SVGA mode.
.

Man those days teh Tseng 4000 w32 was so much better than the mach32 for dos games. Though my mach64 PCI and ISA were MUCH better.

 

[beggerking]

Originally posted by: Exsomnis

I treat fanboys with a certain degree of no respect, thanks.

umm.. and I don't see you crap on Joker's posts..
btw you sound just like him..

 

[beggerking]

Originally posted by: Exsomnis
So you downgraded your card when you could've simply bought a VF900-Cu for £25? You do know that there was absolutely no need to run it at 100% fan speed, right? Those things can go up to 110ºc without batting an eyelid,

1. according to reviews I've read, ATI's cooler is just about the best heatsink/fan solution for 1900xt. The only better way is watercooling.

2. No one in their right mind would recommand running a chip at 110ºc.

 

[Kalessian]

Wow. Remind me never to start a thread in video ever again. :l

I think a lot of people here need vacations.

 

[nitromullet]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: ST

And for your "review", from an admitted biased fanATIc who has snapped at any and every opportunity to discredit / falsify information, sure I'd love to see it Heck I can even predict the outcome already: nVidia suxxx, ati wins....booohoo!

LMAO hello kettle I'm pot and you're black.

LOL! Joker, you really are more fun when you admit your bias. Seriously, I'm not cutting on you at all. That has to be one of the best posts I've seen in a while.

Originally posted by: buzzsaw13
Wow, why don't you GTFO of my thread since all you did was come to flame me.

I traded my card for these reasons:

1. Noise
2. Temperatures
3. To SAVE MONEY as I received $115 to do the trade
4. I wanted to try out Nvidia again (I loved my 6600GT)
5. I wasn't playing anything to take advantage of the X1900XT
6. I'm sick of ATI's garbage drivers

All of this is worth the downgrade in my opinion, if you can't understand that please don't say anything else unless its constructive.

1-5 are pretty much subjective, and I respect your position on these. I myself have "downgraded" before and I've caught some crap from these boards before, so I understand where you are at. My question is about 6... In your opinon, what actually makes the ATI drivers garbage. If you just don't like the CCC, that's one thing, but what really makes their drivers garbage to you? This past year, I've used a number of NV and ATI cards (including SLI and CrossFire), and quite honestly the drivers for both were really quite good and very usable. Just curious...

 

[buzzsaw13]

When I was talking about drivers, I really meant CCC

 

[beggerking]

Originally posted by: buzzsaw13
When I was talking about drivers, I really meant CCC

that can remedied with ATI tool.
nice to get $115 back though.. Good job op.

 

[Extelleron]

Originally posted by: buzzsaw13
Thank you ST, you get the reason why I decided to scrap the X1900, there were so many things that erked me:

Temperatures dipping into 90C+
Overclocking was a pain in the ass due to crappy drivers
Loud ass fan that couldnt be fixed without spending more

The fan isn't loud. When I game, I can easily run it at 70-80%, no PROBLEM whatsoever. You're just sensitive to noise, that isnt ATI's faultg.
Overclocking is NOT a "pain in the ass", A LOT easier than nVidia especially with software over-volting.
My temps, at STOCK SETTINGS, have never dipped into the 90's. In fact I dont think I've ever gotten above 75C on stock cooler.

 

[imported_ST]

Originally posted by: hooflung

Originally posted by: Zap

Originally posted by: ST
hehe you act like i didn't own the one of the first mach 32 cards..

OMG those were a PITA because you had to load software VESA drivers to play DOS games in VESA SVGA mode.
.

Man those days teh Tseng 4000 w32 was so much better than the mach32 for dos games. Though my mach64 PCI and ISA were MUCH better.

Man, talk about flashback...glad to see some old school folks still on. Remember the original Diamond Viper cards with the Weitek P9000, the first real SVGA accelerators hehe? Too bad they used a crud Cirrus Logic VGA chip, and only intetgrated it into the core in subsequent P9100 core....hell I remember still the Number Nine S3 805's, biggest honking cards ever, with some of the shittiest performance to boot lol...

 

[beggerking]

Originally posted by: ST
Man, talk about flashback...glad to see some old school folks still on. Remember the original Diamond Viper cards with the Weitek P9000, the first real SVGA accelerators hehe? Too bad they used a crud Cirrus Logic VGA chip, and only intetgrated it into the core in subsequent P9100 core....hell I remember still the Number Nine S3 805's, biggest honking cards ever, with some of the shittiest performance to boot lol...

:thumbsup:
Compare to the Trident VGA 8700? card I had, Cirrus Logic was a screamer in dos games..

 

[beggerking]

Originally posted by: Extelleron

The fan isn't loud. When I game, I can easily run it at 70-80%, no PROBLEM whatsoever. You're just sensitive to noise, that isnt ATI's faultg.
Overclocking is NOT a "pain in the ass", A LOT easier than nVidia especially with software over-volting.
My temps, at STOCK SETTINGS, have never dipped into the 90's. In fact I dont think I've ever gotten above 75C on stock cooler.

Originally posted by: Extelleron

Originally posted by: Zbox
It's brand new, just put the thing in today... And this is the _third_ card I've tried in various systems; they all make this noise... *sigh*

Hate to break the news, but it's clearly something on your end, not something wrong with X1900XT's.

umm...always consumer's fault, never ATI's fault?
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