7800GTX AGP

[Saint Nick]

You think an AGP version will surface? Or no?

 

[Rock Hydra]

Not for quite some time.

 

[SynthDude2001]

Originally posted by: Rock Hydra
Not for quite some time.

I tend to agree with this^. Plus, IMO, if you're looking to buy a $600 video card, then it's not really unreasonable to spend $100 on a new motherboard as well...

 

[biostud]

I doubt it.

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001

Originally posted by: Rock Hydra
Not for quite some time.

I tend to agree with this^. Plus, IMO, if you're looking to buy a $600 video card, then it's not really unreasonable to spend $100 on a new motherboard as well...

:thumbsup:

 

[jdogg707]

Originally posted by: biostud
I doubt it.

As do I. If they do release an AGP version it will probably suffer from limited supply.

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: biostud
I doubt it.

Ya right..

The r520 and the 7800GTX will both be supported in AGP..

You guys act like the AGP base is completely gone, nVidia and ATi have both stated high end next gen cards would be released in AGP..

And if they didn't it would be financial suicide!

 

[thecoolnessrune]

I think that this card will phase out AGP 4x. I do think they will make an 8x AGP variation. I think the 10000 series (or whatever they'll call it) will be the official phase out of AGP on nVidia boards.

 

[SNM]

Guru3D says Nvidia has no plans for an AGP version. AGP may have a huge userbase, but most of that userbase is on a Geforce MX or 5200.

 

[Melchior]

Originally posted by: bjc112

Originally posted by: biostud
I doubt it.

Ya right..

The r520 and the 7800GTX will both be supported in AGP..

You guys act like the AGP base is completely gone, nVidia and ATi have both stated high end next gen cards would be released in AGP..

And if they didn't it would be financial suicide!

I really dont like this AGP argument that people keep putting up. The market sector that Nvidia is targetting with the 7800 is the ENTHUSIAST sector. It is true that 99% is AGP, but I would say 95% of that 99% don't give a crap about gaming or atleast the latest cutting edge stuff (Many people actually PLAY the games, instead of constantly upgrading their HARDWARE for no better reason than perhaps bragrights).

Of those few people who are AGP AND who care about the 7800 (or even know about it), this would entice many to go the PCI-express route and a new round of upgrading their machines. No loss on Nvidia's part, they know who they are selling to and its not your AGP grandma.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Originally posted by: SNM
Guru3D says Nvidia has no plans for an AGP version. AGP may have a huge userbase, but most of that userbase is on a Geforce MX or 5200.

lol that me GeForce 4 MX420 and 440 in my other rig.

 

[JBT]

I really don't know if they will make the 7800GTX an AGP card... Looking at how CPU limited most games with this card and Intel and AMD chipset makers really don't seem to be pushing out any future AGP chipsets along with the lastest and greatest CPU's only going on PCI-Express mobo's whats the point?

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: bjc112

Originally posted by: biostud
I doubt it.

Ya right..

The r520 and the 7800GTX will both be supported in AGP..

You guys act like the AGP base is completely gone, nVidia and ATi have both stated high end next gen cards would be released in AGP..

And if they didn't it would be financial suicide!

I pray every day that we don't hear these (only repeated because it was heard somewhere and sounds kewl) words agian. :brokenheart:

I agree with you however.

 

[jose]

" they know who they are selling to and its not your AGP grandma. " lol

Very true, also I think that very few ppl will spend $700 on an agp based video card. I'd rather have a pci-e card that can last atleast 2 mobo upgrades...

If and when they do make an agp card it will probably be after all the pci-e versions are out in the channels...

 

[imported_DaveA]

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
I think that this card will phase out AGP 4x. I do think they will make an 8x AGP variation. I think the 10000 series (or whatever they'll call it) will be the official phase out of AGP on nVidia boards.

considering all agp 8x cards are backwards compatible with agp 4x...

 

[nitromullet]

The way I see it, the likelyhood of an AGP 7800GTX is about 50/50... it probably depends on the sales of the PCI-E version. It is also possible that even if nVidia doesn't sanction one themselves that an add on partner pairs the bridge from the previous generation cards with a 7800GTX core to turn it into an AGP card. Obviously, AGP isn't dead, and even if we don't end up seeing an AGP 7800GTX, we will definitely see 7600's in AGP.

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: SNM
Guru3D says Nvidia has no plans for an AGP version. AGP may have a huge userbase, but most of that userbase is on a Geforce MX or 5200.

Bullsh!t. Most people considering this card prolly have 9800's or 6800/x800whatever cards. 3-6 months and they'll have an AGP version.

 

[biostud]

Originally posted by: L3p3rM355i4h

Originally posted by: SNM
Guru3D says Nvidia has no plans for an AGP version. AGP may have a huge userbase, but most of that userbase is on a Geforce MX or 5200.

Bullsh!t. Most people considering this card prolly have 9800's or 6800/x800whatever cards. 3-6 months and they'll have an AGP version.

yeah, but we also have an Athlon XP, so we need to change our motherboard too.

 

[vision33r]

If you have an AGP only system, chances are that your CPU/mobo combo is insufficient to push enough data for a 7800 card. You can pickup a 6800GT/U for less than 1/2 of that. If you want to get the performance numbers of what the benchmarks are putting out, you need to get a more recent CPU/Mobo and they are all PCI-E.

Why would you want to run a high-end GPU on a dated AGP bus anyway?

 

[Leper Messiah]

LOL. Too bad for you. thats a lot of money to be spending, and a moot point, since noone in their right mind would pair a xp to a 7800.

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: vision33r
If you have an AGP only system, chances are that your CPU/mobo combo is insufficient to push enough data for a 7800 card. You can pickup a 6800GT/U for less than 1/2 of that. If you want to get the performance numbers of what the benchmarks are putting out, you need to get a more recent CPU/Mobo and they are all PCI-E.

Why would you want to run a high-end GPU on a dated AGP bus anyway?

'cause they still aren't filling the AGP bus Plenty of 939 mobo's will support FX-55's/X2's.

 

[nitromullet]

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001

Originally posted by: Rock Hydra
Not for quite some time.

I tend to agree with this^. Plus, IMO, if you're looking to buy a $600 video card, then it's not really unreasonable to spend $100 on a new motherboard as well...

I should have responded to this earlier.... But, this is really oversimplifying the issue. This $600 card upgrade was the most expensive single upgrade I have ever done. In order to get into a PCI-E setup, I had to replace my motherboard, CPU, PSU, and video card. Needless to say, it wouldn't make any sense to pair this card with cheap cpu or an entry level motherboard, so it wasn't a cheap upgrade at all. Also, had I gone with an Intel cpu, I would have most likely had to pony up for new RAM as well. This point is often not mentioned when comparing the PentiumD and Athlon64 X2 pricing, but that's a bit OT for this thread.

I'm not saying that you are incorrect by any means, but simply that this "$600 video card upgrade" tends to run more along the lines of $1500-2000... Sure, you get more than just a video card upgrade, and I think my new rig will be fairly competative even a year or two from now, but it doesn't come cheap.

 

[ryanv12]

Well, I had already figured on going PCI-E when I buy a new card. My AGP 6800GT will suffice the whole rest of this or later (depending if I care about any of the new games coming out then), and I'm hoping to get in on a PCI-E SLI motherboard when they reduce the price to compete with crossfire. I'll have my AMD X2 waiting for it

 

[imported_humey]

SynthDude2001, Ok they need a new $100 mobo so you claim, its more like a NF4 so £100+ at least and then a newer 939pin amd 64bit cpu, so its gonna cost a lot more to go pci-e than your $100.

Nvidia said long ago they wont drop AGP in near future after 6800 Pci-e launched.

There is to many high end systems like mines on agp and 32bit cpus.

Im to get a new card anyhow as i took action over 6800U PvP, i said no to a 7800GTX although there is not a agp yet i take it they is going to be or the offer wouldnt have being made.

The GTX cost $649 so aint worth £410 i paid for 6800U in nov 2004, i wait on Ultra or whatever name they come up with after ATI launch and Nvidia launch next model.