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777 crash at san Francisco airport

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Jaskalas said:
That's really bad. Time to pray that the airport is incompetent at tracking people it took off the plane...the alternative is that they never made it off.
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The airport had nothing to do with people fleeing a burning wreckage. Chances are high that at least a few people fled in blinding panic.
 
iamwiz82 said:
The airport had nothing to do with people fleeing a burning wreckage. Chances are high that at least a few people fled in blinding panic.
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this is true however they cant get out of the airport. and one would assume if they were not seriously hurt they would make their way to the airport itself to get help/whatever

they would not just run across the airfield and hop a fence
 
Jaskalas said:
It's a runway. You don't simply get off a burning plane and call a taxi.
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I agree but I think it is early in the investigation. Many of the passengers are probably from overseas and may have language barriers. Identifying them may be a problem ... some may not have identification or documents anymore. I hope everyone is okay.
 
Jaskalas said:
It's a runway. You don't simply get off a burning plane and call a taxi.
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It's also pure chaos. Again, the airport did not handle the evacuation of the plane. They did not stop every ambulance, truck, or car asking for IDs before they were allowed to get to a hospital.

I will say that the final count comes in well under 60.
 
CNN played an audio clip of ATC talking with the pilot coordinating emergency response and runway landing. Now I'm not totally certain, but that clip sounded like it was BEFORE the landing, which indicates that the pilot knew of some problems when landing so..... not sure if this is pilot error.
 
sunzt said:
CNN played an audio clip of ATC talking with the pilot coordinating emergency response and runway landing. Now I'm not totally certain, but that clip sounded like it was BEFORE the landing, which indicates that the pilot knew of some problems when landing so..... not sure if this is pilot error.
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Taken from CNN.

cnn said:
Air traffic control audio -- between the airport's tower and Flight 214 crew members -- suggested that those on the ground knew there was some sort of problem, promising that "emergency vehicles are responding."
"We have everyone on their way," the air traffic controller said, according to LiveATC.net, a website that provides air traffic control audio.
One of those on the flight, Elliott Stone, told CNN that he thought the plane was approaching "a little high (then came) down a little sharp.
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iamwiz82 said:
It's also pure chaos. Again, the airport did not handle the evacuation of the plane. They did not stop every ambulance, truck, or car asking for IDs before they were allowed to get to a hospital.

I will say that the final count comes in well under 60.
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Oh look... now they are back peddling saying one is missing.
 
only 1 missing passenger now, 60 figure was an error

There is an interview from a passenger now that sounds like the approach came up a little short and the pilot tried to throttle up but it was too late.
 
Mixolydian said:
99% of the time it seems, plane crashes are due to either pilot error or mechanical failure. A passenger has no control over those things. When I drive my vehicle, I'M in control. I also know that the vehicle has been properly maintained.
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I wouldn't be surprised if wind had a part in causing the crash. Today was pretty windy out here in SF.
 
Mixolydian said:
unless the plane explodes in the air. :hmm:
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jet fuel simply doesn't explode. it's not volatile enough.

you might die in the chaos of a mid-air collision, but even still you're probably more likely to be alive as the wreckage plummets to the earth.
 
Fayd said:
jet fuel simply doesn't explode. it's not volatile enough.

you might die in the chaos of a mid-air collision, but even still you're probably more likely to be alive as the wreckage plummets to the earth.
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That's even scarier. D:
 
Someone over at airliners.net put these charts together using data from the various free flight tracking data websites that are out there. Very interesting, and jives with the notion of a bungled visual approach since the ILS systems were off when the incident occurred.

Note on the second chart that about 1500 feet out, the aircraft dropped altitude quickly, since it appears he was flying at a higher altitude than he should be at this point. He would have had to drop the nose a bit to do this, and let off the thrust which appears to correlate with the data in the second chart.

Again, I did not make these charts myself, only passing them along. Don't want to take credit for someone elses work.

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altitude.jpg
 
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