754 vs 939 processor clock for clock

[proxopspete]

What I am curious about is for clock for clock, say A64 Socket 754 3000+ Newcastle 2 GHz vs A64 Socket 939 3200+ Venice 2 GHz, if there is any performance difference... Know of any site with actual game data?

 

[dguy6789]

The 939 is slightly faster than a 754 clock for clock, but not enough to make a difference in anything. Amd likes to make consumers believe otherwise with the 939's excessive namenclature. For all intents and purposes, a Socket 754 3700+ = a socket 939 4000+.

 

[nyker96]

I think it's 200-300Mhz down due to lowered RAM bandwidth. Although just read it no actual data.

 

[proxopspete]

Originally posted by: nyker96
I think it's 200-300Mhz down due to lowered RAM bandwidth. Although just read it no actual data.

Dual Channel vs. Single Channel only accounts for about 3 to 5%.
So if I'm reading your statement correctly, no, it's not that much...

 

[selfbuilt]

Originally posted by: proxopspete
Dual Channel vs. Single Channel only accounts for about 3 to 5%.
So if I'm reading your statement correctly, no, it's not that much...

Also running on equivalent chipsets between the two boards? If so, I don't think you'd see any real performance difference between s754/s939 A64s at same rated speed, aside from the lack of dual channel, as you pointed out.

 

[Diogenes2]

I'll have to check the percentage, but I know my 3DMark, Aquamark & etc. scores are considerably lower if I run single channel on my 939.

I don't think it's = 200mhz, but it could be close.. I'll see what I can come up with..

 

[Shenkoa]

Socket 939 does offer dual channel memory configurations so it is faster. Socket 939 offers slightly improved I/O operations per second due to more pins. The difference is not huge buts its there. If you want dual core then you have to go 939.

 

[nemesismk2]

Originally posted by: proxopspete
What I am curious about is for clock for clock, say A64 Socket 754 3000+ Newcastle 2 GHz vs A64 Socket 939 3200+ Venice 2 GHz, if there is any performance difference... Know of any site with actual game data?

Socket 939 Athlon64 3000 (1.8ghz) and Socket 754 Athlon64 2800 (1.8ghz)

What is good about this review (yes it has game benchmarks and synthetic stuff like 3dmark, sisoftware sandra etc) is that it features the Socket 939 processor using dual channel and single channel so you can clearly see the difference in performance between Socket 754 and Socket 939. 🙂

 

[SonicIce]

i suppose it depends on if the 754 is clawhammer or newcastle. they would still be pretty equal. as for games, you wont notice the differance unless you got a better videocard.

 

[AMDxx165xxfx60]

which would be better the clawhammer or newcastle

 

[AMDxx165xxfx60]

another newbies question, i just read that link two msg's up and at the end of the review it says the motherboard would be capable of running an AM2 Processor in the future, is that even possible?

 

[DrMrLordX]

Basic rule of thumb is that s939 is 5% faster than s754 at the same clock speed with the same l2 cache. It varies from app to app.

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: nemesismk2
it features the Socket 939 processor using dual channel and single channel so you can clearly see the difference in performance between Socket 754 and Socket 939. 🙂

... which turns out to be not much.

Originally posted by: AMDxx165xxfx60
which would be better the clawhammer or newcastle

Newcastle is the newer core with tweaked memory controller and sometimes capable of higher clocks, though Clawhammer has 1MB cache versions versus 512k only.

Originally posted by: AMDxx165xxfx60
another newbies question, i just read that link two msg's up and at the end of the review it says the motherboard would be capable of running an AM2 Processor in the future, is that even possible?

Yes it is, with a daughtercard. That motherboard is arguably one of the most flexible on the market.