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74gb raptor slowdowns in general desktop usage

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mitchafi

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Just yesterday I wrote zero's to my raptor and installed window's on it. However, when using it for general desktop stuff it is acting slower than my WD1200JB which hasn't been formatted since I got it. Browsing through files on the raptor takes a decent amount longer than browsing through files on the 120 gig drive. I get hourglasses when trying to access my computer. What is the reason for this? Shouldn't the raptor always be faster? By the way I'm paranoid and neurotic so feel free to ignore me. Every little weird thing I notice about performance scares the hell out of me and stresses me to the point where I want to break something. I think I need counseling 🙂
 
You are running an incompatible avatar. For a Raptor, I guess the closest you'll get is the Dragon avatar for now.


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Ok, so you have a K8V standard, right? Not a Deluxe or Deluxe SE that has a Promise PCI controller on it. What slot's the Audigy in? Try running HD Tach on the Raptor and the WD 1200JB and report what they give for burst rate, min/max/average and CPU usage.
 
The board is a K8V standard (hope I didn't take too much of a performance hit when I bought the standard version by accident). The Audigy is in the 3rd slot. I have no idea what HD Tach is but i'm going to look into it now and i'll report back. Thanks!
 
Reports are in!

WD2100JB:

Read Speed - maximum 53.8MB/s, minimum 34.7MB/s, average 46.1MB/s

Random Access Time - 13.4ms (lower is better)

Read Burst Speed (megabytes per second, higher is better)

Sequential Speed - 50 to about 35

CPU utilization: 38.8%

Raptor:

Read Speed - maximum 73.1MB/s, minimum 45.2MB/s, average 63.3MB/s

Random Access Time - 7.9ms

Read Burst Speed - 113.1 MB/s

Sequential Speed - 70 to about 55

CPU Utilization: 38.2%


Looks like the raptor is the clear winner (then again who say's I can read charts). Well this is puzzling but also a relief I suppose. Why is the raptor slow. Before I reformatted I could access my computer/control panel/etc at lightning speed. Now it's fast, but not lightning fast. Did I mention I'm a paranoid schizophrenic?
 
Are you receiving treatment? If you're serious, look into it 🙂 Mental illness is treatable. I work at a non-profit agency with counsellors and therapists that really impress me with how they care for their clients.

Now on to your K8V. I forgot to ask this, but did you install the latest VIA 4-in-1 driver pack? If not, snag that from here and install it. Your CPU usage seems quite high on both drives at the moment.

Also move your Audigy down to PCI slot 4 (which is not sharing its IRQ) and disable its onboard gameport in Windows Device Manager (use the motherboard's gameport). I'd also disable its Firewire (the onboard Firewire is preferable since it's not PCI-based, IMHO). See what effect that has on your real-world seat-of-the-pants impression of how the drive is performing.
 
CPU utilization is way too high. Something is wrong with your installation. CPU utilization should be under 5% for all drives. The transfer rates are normal.
 
Yea I've installed the 4-in-1's version 449 off of the asus site. And no, as far as I know I'm not mentally unstable. I'm just a perfectionist, and I like everything to be perfect and run flawlessly, which is the direct opposite of cutting-edge computing. I almost had a heart attack building this PC, especially when I scraped the screwdriver against the mobo. Didn't harm anything, fortunately. Well at least I'm gaining knowledge from all of this. BRB, going to perform the suggested operations!
 
Alright. Moved the card to slot 4. Dropped the screw in the case like 10 times, almost broke off some capacitators, the usual. Windows wanted the drivers for it again too. Shouldn't it have found the old ones? I just disable the creative gameport. Now I'm going to run HD Tach and I'll post results momentarily.
 
WD1200JB:

CPU Utilization: 39.4%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Random Access - 13.4

Read Burst 76

Sequential Speed - 50 to 10 up to 35.

Read speed max 53.8, min 10.9 average 43.9

Raptor

Utilization 39.6%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RAS 7.9

Read Burst 115

read speed max 73.1 min 45.2 avg 63.9

sequential - 70 to 55

I hate computers, trying to solve one problem just spawns another!
 
The problem is clearly the Radeon 9800 Pro, you'd better send it to me for safe disposal 😛




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Ok ok... try going to VIA's site using the link I posted, get the latest driver package (which is newer than Asus's) and install it.
 
Huh 😕 If you look in your Windows Device Manager and expand the IDE/ATA controllers, then double-click on the Primary and Secondary ones and look at the Advanced tab, they're running DMA mode, right?
 
Wow Something is definatly wrong here. CPU utilization near 40%?!?!?! Mine gets 2-3% with the latest HDTACH. AS Mech said get the latest 4 in 1's and see how that does.
 
Yeah, this is painful just to read about 😕 What I'd do is to tear out all non-essential items (Audigy, storage drive, optical drive(s), etc) and test with just the Raptor alone. I'll rummage through the manual for any relevant BIOS items to tweak too.
 
oh man. How big of a deal is this. What does it mean. I never even would have known about it had I not been complaining about a tiny slowdown. Tearing out those drives is pretty easy right. Can I just unplug the IDE cables?
 
Disabling cool and quiet has no effect. I must be really bad at building computers or something. Does none of this weird crap happen to you guys?
 
Originally posted by: mitchafi
Disabling cool and quiet has no effect. I must be really bad at building computers or something. Does none of this weird crap happen to you guys?
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k, commence tearing stuff out. My K8V Deluxe isn't doing that type of stuff to me, nope. Could be your Windows installation is Seriously Messed Up? too.
 
OK so I unplugged the IDE cables for every drive but left the power connectors in. With the sound card in I had 20% CPU Usage and without back up to 38.8%. Could this be caused by when I dropped a screwdriver on my mobo and made a tiny nick? I always worry about that stuff.
 
Have you tried resetting the BIOS to factory default settings? Although I'm starting to lose hope here. I would suggest taking the Ratpro as a fact-finding step, out except it's your boot drive so that would mean finding an IDE drive to install Windows on so you can benchmark.

Whereabouts did you hit the mobo with the screwdriver, and how hard? It's possible to knock the weentsy lil' surface-mounted capacitors and resistors off of a motherboard, I've done it myself.
 
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