74GB Raptor or 250GB Samsung Spinpoint?

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: Phil

Originally posted by: bob4432

Originally posted by: Phil

Originally posted by: bob4432

Originally posted by: Dynamix3D

Originally posted by: bob4432

Originally posted by: Dynamix3D
I am thinking that two of those Samsungs in RAID-0 should be pretty similar to one Raptor in speed.

the reason you like the raptor is because of the seek times, if you use hdtach or another hdd benchmark, i will bet the str is not much difference but the seek times will definately be.

a raid0 will not decrease the seek times of 2x 7200rpm drives to = 1x 10k rpm drive and unless you are moving huge files (GB size) the additional speed of the raid0 will probably also not be noticeable, plus you double your chances of losing your data, and with 500GB, that is a lot to lose.

Well you are right about the seek times. 14.0ms for the Samsung, and 7.9ms for the raptor is what I got. Well I still have time to cancel my order, so decisions, decisions..... ugh. :roll:

it is totally up to you, for me, i like the difference a 10Krpm drive makes for the os/apps and i am currently looking for a good deal to replace my current 10Krpm drive with a 15Krpm, but that is me.

this is just a personal preference as people think i am crazy for being willing to spend $100-$200 for a 36GB hdd

Ah, but then you show them something like installing Windows from that 15krpm drive onto the same drive in half the time it would take with a regular IDE drive, and things begin to make sense 😉

If I wasn't shooting for a better video card to replace my passive 9600 Pro, I'd be getting a 15krpm 36Gb Hitachi or Seagate Cheetah.

that is what i like, when i fire up ps or illustrator, it is up in a flash, it just makes the whole computing experience much more snappy. to me, when i switched from a 7200rpm 8MB cache system drive to my scsi setup the difference was equal to going from 512MB of ram to 1GB.

Exactly. People who complain that SCSI drives aren't as fast as they were expecting are usually gamers.

My work machine has a 36Gb 10krpm Fujitsu drive, and although it's only a P3 1Ghz, it definitely feels like it has "more in reserve" when you ask a lot of the drive. There's less pausing, less delay before things happen. Pagefile shuffling is also a lot quicker 🙂

agree 100%. there was short time when i was having some ram issues and my machine only had 512MB and i was playing bf1942 at the time. just for kicks i put the old 7200rpm hdd in the machine and ghosted over the system drive and played - horrible, every time the game would hit the hdd for some data, fps would drop big time. then i put in the 10k scsi with the same 512MB of ram and to be honest, i couldn't tell when the game hit the hdd for data, i was very impressed with that.

whenever i find a good deal on a 15k rpm drive for me, my wife will get my current drive in her 1GHz Athlon, which is all she needs for what she does.

 

[Makaveli]

I agree with everyone you should keep both. but if noise is really an issue then u made the right decision to go with both samsung drives. Nothing beats the raptor in SATA format for seek times. There are alot of raptor haters in the forum these days too, I think most of them are just too cheap to pay the price this drive demands. Forgetting that its a Enterprise class drive. I for one will notice lower Seek times than higher STR. O and stay away from Raid 0. Its worthless for desktop, and will increase your seek times even with 2 raptors in Raid 0.

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: Makaveli
I agree with everyone you should keep both. but if noise is really an issue then u made the right decision to go with both samsung drives. Nothing beats the raptor in SATA format for seek times. There are alot of raptor haters in the forum these days too, I think most of them are just too cheap to pay the price this drive demands. Forgetting that its a Enterprise class drive. I for one will notice lower Seek times than higher STR. O and stay away from Raid 0. Its worthless for desktop, and will increase your seek times even with 2 raptors in Raid 0.

but the seek times are still close, for just about all of the new 7200rpm hdds.

and i am not a raptor hater, i would have bought one but when i bought my scsi stuff they only had the 36GB raptors out that seemed to be a disappointment. i honestly think a 74GB raptor is a good performer, but i would still go scsi for a system drive because once you get alteast a u160 controller you can always upgrade to a 15krpm system drive when the $$$ is right for you, thus lowering seek times to what, like 3.3ms? 🙂 and if you can pick up a 1gen old refurbed through newegg you are set and with a card and cable will cost pretty close to a 74GB raptor (although you would be losing 1/2 the size, but who has more than 36GB of files installed with just apps and the os? i pesonally only use lenn than 12GB of my system drive which includes the os, all the damn patches, of2 prem, most of the adobe suite and about 40-50 other misc programs i use (and i have my emule folder on my c drive, which i need to clean out).

 

[Makaveli]

you are right about SCSI, but for the size of the HD that wouldn't work for me.
And I stress the me part, I will usually have about 6-8 games installed on my OS HD usually. And games these days aren't small liek 3-5gb installs. So with applications and a couple games I would fill 36gb easily.

But I suppose if I were to only install the OS and application it would be plenty enough room.

Yes the seek times are close between all the new 7200 RPM drives but not vs the Raptor.

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: Makaveli
you are right about SCSI, but for the size of the HD that wouldn't work for me.
And I stress the me part, I will usually have about 6-8 games installed on my OS HD usually. And games these days aren't small liek 3-5gb installs. So with applications and a couple games I would fill 36gb easily.

But I suppose if I were to only install the OS and application it would be plenty enough room.

Yes the seek times are close between all the new 7200 RPM drives but not vs the Raptor.

i see your point as i only have 1 game installed at a time, max of 2

and if you installed the game on a regular 7200rpm drive, you would not gain from the scsi but you would from a raptor. it boils down to personal taste and preference.