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70% of Americans Back Abortion Parental Notification Laws

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WASHINGTON, November 28, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) ? As the New Hampshire Attorney General gets ready to defend a challenge of the state?s parental notification law at the US Supreme Court, a recent poll has found almost 70% of Americans support the measure.

A CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll conducted earlier this month found 69% of 1,006 adults questioned favored parental consent before a minor child?s abortion, with 28% of respondents opposed. The poll also found that 64% were in favor of spousal notification before abortion, while 34% opposed spousal notification. Although the majority of respondents opposed an all-out constitutional ban on abortion, more than three-fourths were in favor of tighter restrictions on abortion.

Planned Parenthood of Northern New England successfully challenged New Hampshire?s parental notification law in 2000, when a 1st U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Boston ruled the law unconstitutional because it did not have an exception for the so-called ?health? of the mother.

The Supreme Court upheld a similar challenge to the Minnesota parental notification law in 1990, although in 2000 the high court ruled the partial-birth abortion ban unconstitutional because it did not include an exception for the health of the mother. The exception for ?health? has proven to be a wide open door for abortion on demand at any stage of pregnancy, with the term ?health? being interpreted so broadly as to make it effectively meaningless.

New Hampshire officials argue in their appeal that it is not necessary for the notification law to have a specific health exception, as at least 34 other state abortion laws already cover this. In addition, the 2000 partial-birth abortion ruling does not necessarily require that all abortion laws include the mother?s health exception, they said.

The case will highlight the positions of new Court members, including Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts, as well as, if confirmed, federal appeals Judge Samuel Alito. Based on past cases, it appears most likely that the current Court would split 4-4 on the case, with Alito, who would replace former Justice Sandra Day-O?Connor, if confirmed, casting the deciding vote. In 1990, Alito ruled in favor of a spousal notification law for Pennsylvania.


Just to show exactly where mainstream America is and how far Californians are out of it.
 
Originally posted by: zendari
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WASHINGTON, November 28, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) ? As the New Hampshire Attorney General gets ready to defend a challenge of the state?s parental notification law at the US Supreme Court, a recent poll has found almost 70% of Americans support the measure.

A CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll conducted earlier this month found 69% of 1,006 adults questioned favored parental consent before a minor child?s abortion, with 28% of respondents opposed. The poll also found that 64% were in favor of spousal notification before abortion, while 34% opposed spousal notification. Although the majority of respondents opposed an all-out constitutional ban on abortion, more than three-fourths were in favor of tighter restrictions on abortion.

Planned Parenthood of Northern New England successfully challenged New Hampshire?s parental notification law in 2000, when a 1st U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Boston ruled the law unconstitutional because it did not have an exception for the so-called ?health? of the mother.

The Supreme Court upheld a similar challenge to the Minnesota parental notification law in 1990, although in 2000 the high court ruled the partial-birth abortion ban unconstitutional because it did not include an exception for the health of the mother. The exception for ?health? has proven to be a wide open door for abortion on demand at any stage of pregnancy, with the term ?health? being interpreted so broadly as to make it effectively meaningless.

New Hampshire officials argue in their appeal that it is not necessary for the notification law to have a specific health exception, as at least 34 other state abortion laws already cover this. In addition, the 2000 partial-birth abortion ruling does not necessarily require that all abortion laws include the mother?s health exception, they said.

The case will highlight the positions of new Court members, including Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts, as well as, if confirmed, federal appeals Judge Samuel Alito. Based on past cases, it appears most likely that the current Court would split 4-4 on the case, with Alito, who would replace former Justice Sandra Day-O?Connor, if confirmed, casting the deciding vote. In 1990, Alito ruled in favor of a spousal notification law for Pennsylvania.


Just to show exactly where mainstream America is and how far Californians are out of it.
Well why should Californians adhere to how the Rubes from the Red States believe? If those in Dumbfukistan want to have parental Notification in the books let them vote it in for their state.
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Well why should Californians adhere to how the Rubes from the Red States believe? If those in Dumbfukistan want to have parental Notification in the books let them vote it in for their state.

Why should intelligent design states have to adhere to what the Blue State commies believe?
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: zendari
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WASHINGTON, November 28, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) ? As the New Hampshire Attorney General gets ready to defend a challenge of the state?s parental notification law at the US Supreme Court, a recent poll has found almost 70% of Americans support the measure.

A CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll conducted earlier this month found 69% of 1,006 adults questioned favored parental consent before a minor child?s abortion, with 28% of respondents opposed. The poll also found that 64% were in favor of spousal notification before abortion, while 34% opposed spousal notification. Although the majority of respondents opposed an all-out constitutional ban on abortion, more than three-fourths were in favor of tighter restrictions on abortion.

Planned Parenthood of Northern New England successfully challenged New Hampshire?s parental notification law in 2000, when a 1st U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Boston ruled the law unconstitutional because it did not have an exception for the so-called ?health? of the mother.

The Supreme Court upheld a similar challenge to the Minnesota parental notification law in 1990, although in 2000 the high court ruled the partial-birth abortion ban unconstitutional because it did not include an exception for the health of the mother. The exception for ?health? has proven to be a wide open door for abortion on demand at any stage of pregnancy, with the term ?health? being interpreted so broadly as to make it effectively meaningless.

New Hampshire officials argue in their appeal that it is not necessary for the notification law to have a specific health exception, as at least 34 other state abortion laws already cover this. In addition, the 2000 partial-birth abortion ruling does not necessarily require that all abortion laws include the mother?s health exception, they said.

The case will highlight the positions of new Court members, including Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts, as well as, if confirmed, federal appeals Judge Samuel Alito. Based on past cases, it appears most likely that the current Court would split 4-4 on the case, with Alito, who would replace former Justice Sandra Day-O?Connor, if confirmed, casting the deciding vote. In 1990, Alito ruled in favor of a spousal notification law for Pennsylvania.


Just to show exactly where mainstream America is and how far Californians are out of it.
Well why should Californians adhere to how the Rubes from the Red States believe? If those in Dumbfukistan want to have parental Notification in the books let them vote it in for their state.


Oh when America doesnt agree with Red Dawn he resorts to childish name calling.

What are you going to do? Take you toys home with you?

As for the OP, it is quite interesting the same people who cry about the majority not having their voices heard in 2000 are the same who will uphold a law the majority of America is not interested in.
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Well why should Californians adhere to how the Rubes from the Red States believe? If those in Dumbfukistan want to have parental Notification in the books let them vote it in for their state.


Oh when America doesnt agree with Red Dawn he resorts to childish name calling.

What are you going to do? Take you toys home with you?

As for the OP, it is quite interesting the same people who cry about the majority not having their voices heard in 2000 are the same who will uphold a law the majority of America is not interested in.

The same people say how some 60% of people are in favor of "abortion rights" and that because of that the SCOTUS should prevent Mississippi from banning it. Hmmmmm.....
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: zendari
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WASHINGTON, November 28, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) ? As the New Hampshire Attorney General gets ready to defend a challenge of the state?s parental notification law at the US Supreme Court, a recent poll has found almost 70% of Americans support the measure.

A CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll conducted earlier this month found 69% of 1,006 adults questioned favored parental consent before a minor child?s abortion, with 28% of respondents opposed. The poll also found that 64% were in favor of spousal notification before abortion, while 34% opposed spousal notification. Although the majority of respondents opposed an all-out constitutional ban on abortion, more than three-fourths were in favor of tighter restrictions on abortion.

Planned Parenthood of Northern New England successfully challenged New Hampshire?s parental notification law in 2000, when a 1st U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Boston ruled the law unconstitutional because it did not have an exception for the so-called ?health? of the mother.

The Supreme Court upheld a similar challenge to the Minnesota parental notification law in 1990, although in 2000 the high court ruled the partial-birth abortion ban unconstitutional because it did not include an exception for the health of the mother. The exception for ?health? has proven to be a wide open door for abortion on demand at any stage of pregnancy, with the term ?health? being interpreted so broadly as to make it effectively meaningless.

New Hampshire officials argue in their appeal that it is not necessary for the notification law to have a specific health exception, as at least 34 other state abortion laws already cover this. In addition, the 2000 partial-birth abortion ruling does not necessarily require that all abortion laws include the mother?s health exception, they said.

The case will highlight the positions of new Court members, including Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts, as well as, if confirmed, federal appeals Judge Samuel Alito. Based on past cases, it appears most likely that the current Court would split 4-4 on the case, with Alito, who would replace former Justice Sandra Day-O?Connor, if confirmed, casting the deciding vote. In 1990, Alito ruled in favor of a spousal notification law for Pennsylvania.


Just to show exactly where mainstream America is and how far Californians are out of it.
Well why should Californians adhere to how the Rubes from the Red States believe? If those in Dumbfukistan want to have parental Notification in the books let them vote it in for their state.


Oh when America doesnt agree with Red Dawn he resorts to childish name calling.

What are you going to do? Take you toys home with you?
OK, the name calling was uncalled for but my point still stands

As for the OP, it is quite interesting the same people who cry about the majority not having their voices heard in 2000 are the same who will uphold a law the majority of America is not interested in.
I guess you don't get it, it's a state issue and not a national one.

 
Bunny: Mom I know im only 16 but I went and had sex and now im pregnant and I needed to NOTIFY you that I am going to go out and get an abortion

Mom: OMG!! I can't believe you got preggos!! but thats OK we will do what we have to do to survive. But you are NOT getting an abortion.

Bunny: But MOOOM!! its MY CHOICE its MY BODY!! I am going to go do this

Mom: We are CHRISTIANS and CHRISTANS dont believe in killing babies. If you do this you might as well pack up and go shack up with your dumb boyfriend. I will KICK you out on the street if you get an abortion

Bunny: cries.

and you guys say that NOTIFICATION isn't PERMISSION? that's pretty sneaky! 🙂

kind of off topic but I had to throw that in there. The majority of americans don't think, hence they think this NOTIFICATION business is OK.

 
*Yawn* Rip, is that you?

A poll asking if you favor notification != support for a law making it maditory.

Not to mention we don't make Constitutional rulings based on public opinion polls.
 
I guess you don't get it, it's a state issue and not a national one.

When the Supreme Court gets involved it is a national one.

But I am not saying I dont think it should be a states issue, just like Roe v Wade.
 
Originally posted by: Todd33
*Yawn* Rip, is that you?

A poll asking if you favor notification != support for a law making it maditory.

Not to mention we don't make Constitutional rulings based on public opinion polls.

So why do liberals say RvW shouldn't be overturned because 60% of Americans support it?
 
Originally posted by: Todd33
*Yawn* Rip, is that you?

A poll asking if you favor notification != support for a law making it maditory.

Not to mention we don't make Constitutional rulings based on public opinion polls.

Oh really? What was that ruling the Supreme Court made last year about underage executions and quoting general public opinion and european precident?
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Todd33
*Yawn* Rip, is that you?

A poll asking if you favor notification != support for a law making it maditory.

Not to mention we don't make Constitutional rulings based on public opinion polls.

Oh really? What was that ruling the Supreme Court made last year about underage executions and quoting general public opinion and european precident?

Public opinion only counts when its liberal public opinion fed from their media. Doh!
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Todd33
*Yawn* Rip, is that you?

A poll asking if you favor notification != support for a law making it maditory.

Not to mention we don't make Constitutional rulings based on public opinion polls.

Oh really? What was that ruling the Supreme Court made last year about underage executions and quoting general public opinion and european precident?
You are talking about an issue that may just very well be universally agreed upon that undereage executions should be outlawed. Something that universally understood also has COMMON SENSE to back it up moreso than "public opinion" or european precident. That is a bad example when compared to the American Abortion issue, which is clearly and utterly complex and divisive.
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
I guess you don't get it, it's a state issue and not a national one.

When the Supreme Court gets involved it is a national one.

But I am not saying I dont think it should be a states issue, just like Roe v Wade.
OK, this still has no bearing on the situation in California regarding the notification issue.
 
Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Genx87
Oh really? What was that ruling the Supreme Court made last year about underage executions and quoting general public opinion and european precident?
You are talking about an issue that may just very well be universally agreed upon that undereage executions should be outlawed. Something that universally understood also has COMMON SENSE to back it up moreso than "public opinion" or european precident. That is a bad example when compared to the American Abortion issue, which is clearly and utterly complex and divisive.
Correction: Liberal elitists universally agree on it. Clearly the state legislatures that allowed it and the citizens that voted for them do not.

The SCOTUS didnt even have universal agreement. IIRC the vote was 5-4.
 
school nurse needs to get parental permission before giving a child medication...

For a student to leave school grounds for a field trip, the teacher needs a permission slip...

Minors need permission to get holes poked through their ears...

but to have one specific medical procedure done, that can have determental effects - it is okay. And if something does go wrong, the parents get to be responsible for caring fot the child and covering costs.

Doesn't that seem a little out of wack?
 
Originally posted by: OrByte
Bunny: Mom I know im only 16 but I went and had sex and now im pregnant and I needed to NOTIFY you that I am going to go out and get an abortion

Mom: OMG!! I can't believe you got preggos!! but thats OK we will do what we have to do to survive. But you are NOT getting an abortion.

Bunny: But MOOOM!! its MY CHOICE its MY BODY!! I am going to go do this

Mom: We are CHRISTIANS and CHRISTANS dont believe in killing babies. If you do this you might as well pack up and go shack up with your dumb boyfriend. I will KICK you out on the street if you get an abortion

Bunny: cries.

and you guys say that NOTIFICATION isn't PERMISSION? that's pretty sneaky! 🙂

kind of off topic but I had to throw that in there. The majority of americans don't think, hence they think this NOTIFICATION business is OK.


what is a good, god-fearning, saintly christian girl doing getting knocked up to begin with? is she knocked up by her good christian bf? oh how the apples don't fall far from the trees
 
Originally posted by: rickn
Originally posted by: OrByte
Bunny: Mom I know im only 16 but I went and had sex and now im pregnant and I needed to NOTIFY you that I am going to go out and get an abortion

Mom: OMG!! I can't believe you got preggos!! but thats OK we will do what we have to do to survive. But you are NOT getting an abortion.

Bunny: But MOOOM!! its MY CHOICE its MY BODY!! I am going to go do this

Mom: We are CHRISTIANS and CHRISTANS dont believe in killing babies. If you do this you might as well pack up and go shack up with your dumb boyfriend. I will KICK you out on the street if you get an abortion

Bunny: cries.

and you guys say that NOTIFICATION isn't PERMISSION? that's pretty sneaky! 🙂

kind of off topic but I had to throw that in there. The majority of americans don't think, hence they think this NOTIFICATION business is OK.


what is a good, god-fearning, saintly christian girl doing getting knocked up to begin with? is she knocked up by her good christian bf? oh how the apples don't fall far from the trees
I should have put "catholics" in there instead of "Christians" then I think people would understand clearly the hypocrisy and guilt of it all!

my mistake.

🙂

 
Originally posted by: rickn
Originally posted by: OrByte
Bunny: Mom I know im only 16 but I went and had sex and now im pregnant and I needed to NOTIFY you that I am going to go out and get an abortion

Mom: OMG!! I can't believe you got preggos!! but thats OK we will do what we have to do to survive. But you are NOT getting an abortion.

Bunny: But MOOOM!! its MY CHOICE its MY BODY!! I am going to go do this

Mom: We are CHRISTIANS and CHRISTANS dont believe in killing babies. If you do this you might as well pack up and go shack up with your dumb boyfriend. I will KICK you out on the street if you get an abortion

Bunny: cries.

and you guys say that NOTIFICATION isn't PERMISSION? that's pretty sneaky! 🙂

kind of off topic but I had to throw that in there. The majority of americans don't think, hence they think this NOTIFICATION business is OK.

what is a good, god-fearning, saintly christian girl doing getting knocked up to begin with? is she knocked up by her good christian bf? oh how the apples don't fall far from the trees
What is a girl, godfearing or not, doing living with parents she doesn't give a sh!t about?
 
If she doesn't want to ask her parents doesn't she have to get permission from a judge?

Seems to me that 90+% of girls WILL automatically have their parents involved and the small percent whose parents are real assholes will be able to proceed around them. Seems like the best way to deal with an imperfect situation.
 
Like you I believe that parents should be notified for those who are 17 and younger, with the obvious excpetions being Rape / Incest within the family, or for someone who is already emancipated. The other excpetion would be for parents to be excluded if they haven't actually been parents (deadbeat dads / moms).

However, unlike the OP I don't think this should be a step in abolishing abortion.
 
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
If she doesn't want to ask her parents doesn't she have to get permission from a judge?

Seems to me that 90+% of girls WILL automatically have their parents involved and the small percent whose parents are real assholes will be able to proceed around them. Seems like the best way to deal with an imperfect situation.
Thats like saying to a girl, you dont have to notify your parents but you need to stand in front of a judge/GOD for judgement regarding the worst mistake in life you have ever made (up till now)

I don't think going in front of a judge is any easier than telling parents...but you and I have never been little pregnant girls right?

its an imperfect situation that needs a solution from the root of the problem (family values) rather than another law.

as a side note...the GOP really screwed up the term "family values" for me...I can't even type it now without getting squirmy.
 
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Well why should Californians adhere to how the Rubes from the Red States believe? If those in Dumbfukistan want to have parental Notification in the books let them vote it in for their state.

Why should intelligent design states have to adhere to what the Blue State commies believe?


Why do you insist on using derogatory language? How would you like to be called a Facist?
 
Originally posted by: Uhtrinity
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Well why should Californians adhere to how the Rubes from the Red States believe? If those in Dumbfukistan want to have parental Notification in the books let them vote it in for their state.

Why should intelligent design states have to adhere to what the Blue State commies believe?


Why do you insist on using derogatory language? How would you like to be called a Facist?

Ask RedDawn. I respond in kind.
 
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