7-year-old suspended over stick-figure drawing

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Number1

The way some parents are, they will invariably side with their own children.
It is a better idea for the offended party to contact the autorities with their complaints. The school board is in a better position to decide if the complaint was justified and take action.

Obviously the school board wasn't, because their decision is getting a bunch of fallout. This will not be good for their careers, because they have a huge brand of stupidity on them now.

 

[Number1]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Number1


Smiling or not this drawing WAS perceived as a threat by the young child and her parents. That is the only explanation that makes sense to me as to why the child would have been suspended

Ok, what if someone gives someone a flower and they perceived that as a threat? You know, the flower got decapitated and now you're giving the severed head to someone.

Or if you give someone a hug and get suspended for that. Woops, I forgot- someone already did get suspended for that.

Now you're just being stupid.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Number1

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Number1


Smiling or not this drawing WAS perceived as a threat by the young child and her parents. That is the only explanation that makes sense to me as to why the child would have been suspended

Ok, what if someone gives someone a flower and they perceived that as a threat? You know, the flower got decapitated and now you're giving the severed head to someone.

Or if you give someone a hug and get suspended for that. Woops, I forgot- someone already did get suspended for that.

Now you're just being stupid.

I'm not being stupid. Schools are being stupid. Someone actually got suspended for giving someone else a hug.

Also, you're being stupid. People in this thread almost universally agree that the school was being stupid about this, but you, as usual, are out of touch with reality.

Aren't you the moron who believed in all of those ridiculous 9/11 conspiracies? It doesn't surprise me as you have a weak reasoning ability.

 

[Ronstang]

Zero tolerance polices are simply a crutch used by administrators/teachers/parents because they are too lazy, too stupid, or both to make decisions and apply judgment anymore. They have become like phone tech support.....if it is not on the decision tree displayed on the screen they cannot solve the problem. The world is getting dumber.

 

[LookingGlass]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
dumb. zero tolerance policy enacted using zero intelligence.

Touche' Mosh Touche'

 

[Number1]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Number1

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Number1


Smiling or not this drawing WAS perceived as a threat by the young child and her parents. That is the only explanation that makes sense to me as to why the child would have been suspended

Ok, what if someone gives someone a flower and they perceived that as a threat? You know, the flower got decapitated and now you're giving the severed head to someone.

Or if you give someone a hug and get suspended for that. Woops, I forgot- someone already did get suspended for that.

Now you're just being stupid.

I'm not being stupid. Schools are being stupid. Someone actually got suspended for giving someone else a hug.

Also, you're being stupid. People in this thread almost universally agree that the school was being stupid about this, but you, as usual, are out of touch with reality.

Aren't you the moron who believed in all of those ridiculous 9/11 conspiracies? It doesn't surprise me as you have a weak reasoning ability.

Now you're just loosing it again. There nothing I like better then to bash and masacre conspiracy theory believers. just ask BrokenVisage.


Like I said, I can understand why the child and parents could have perceived the drawing as a threat. I don't think the one day suspension was out of line.

You like to trow your superior intelect around and use it to bash and insult people everychance you get. In my book, that is not being smart, that is just being an asshole.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Ronstang
Zero tolerance polices are simply a crutch used by administrators/teachers/parents because they are too lazy, too stupid, or both to make decisions and apply judgment anymore. They have become like phone tech support.....if it is not on the decision tree displayed on the screen they cannot solve the problem. The world is getting dumber.

QFT.

 

[PieIsAwesome]

America: Home of the scared shitless.

"OMG!1! OSAMA! GUNS!1! GAY PEOPLZ!!1

 

[Queasy]

Stickman on Stickman violence should never be tolerated.

Seriously, yet another example why I will make the sacrifice to send my kids to private school.

 

[DrPizza]

It's kinda funny. On Wednesday, I'll be showing a video in physics class. It's an experiment/demonstration that, extremely unfortunately, I wouldn't be allowed to do in class. The demonstration is measuring the velocity of a bullet. Extremely good physics. And, the demo is taught by an outstanding professor from MIT.

I also have a print out of a news article regarding a high school teacher who did a similar demonstration in a physics class. They were talking about filing felony charges on him for possession of a weapon, plus charges with endangering the lives of the students, etc. At the bottom of the article are comments, including this wonderful quote: (which is applicable to the story in the OP of this thread)

?A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity.?
?Sigmund Freud







You don't know how much I'd love to have a .22 in class to do a classroom demo for determining muzzle velocity. Experiments like that are incredibly engaging. (Today, for my final review of motion in 2-D, we did a ballistics lab. Water balloon slingshot. 4 vertical (90degree) launches, some stop watches, then pulling a random angle out of a hat. Students had to calculate where the heck I needed to stand for their assigned angle. I was absolutely soaked at the end of class, and took several shots to the head. Hurray to my students.

 

[1prophet]

This short film was banned in eastern europe during the cold war yet was shown in American schools during that time period, I wonder if a student today was to show this film in their school would they be suspended?


The Hand

 

[ArmchairAthlete]

When I was that young I had seen a certain symbol somewhere. On the cases for some old VHS war movies at my grandparents. For some reason I thought it looked cool. As young as I was I had absolutely no idea what it meant.

I ended up drawing it on some little quiz in first grade, boy was I in trouble yet I had no idea why. I think my parents got a talking to.

You can probably guess what it was.

 

[dmcowen674]

That 7 yr old should immediately be declared an enemy combatant terrist and sent to Gitmo.

 

[Ruptga]

Originally posted by: apac
Jeez and I used to draw jeeps and helicopters loaded with missiles and guns when I was that old. Usually I just roll my eyes at this "pussification of america" stuff people always whine about, but this is outrageous.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
You are perfectly typical of what I described. It's not what he drew. He gave the picture to some other kid. That's the key part. His motivation for doing to is the key. Maybe he thought it was a fine work of art, this stick figure drawing......maybe it was a love note......who knows. But if it WAS a threat of any kind, then, yes, he needed to be suspended.

Did you actually attend elementary school?

Far worse than that went on every day. I remember being told that if I didn't give this one guy cutsies in the lunch line, he'd "get" me. I guess I should have had him thrown into jail, right? Since he was clearly a future mass murderer?

If any kind of threat equals an automatic suspension, that will really be a problem for the sports teams, being that half of "team spirit" consists of threatening and/or insulting the opposition.

 

[Ruptga]

Originally posted by: 1prophet
This short film was banned in eastern europe during the cold war yet was shown in American schools during that time period, I wonder if a student today was to show this film in their school would they be suspended?


The Hand

No, nobody would care because all it would do is confuse the heck out of everyone, especially if they thought it had something to do with guns.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Xanis

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Xanis

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
You guys are stupid. You really buy that he drew a water pistol? have you EVER drawn a picture of somebody shooting a water pistol? :roll:

And the fact that he gave it to some other kid? Why? As a valentine? Or as a veiled threat? You don't know. I don't know. But the facts as we've seen them presented, could very well lead to the conclusion that this kid may have some violent tendencies that I'd want his parents to sit down and consider....ESPECIALLY at this age.

Oh, I forgot. Every kid that draws guns is a potential KILLER!!!

I drew guns and shit all the time when I was kid. Why? B/C I watched fucking GI Joe and Transformers and it was cool as hell!!!!

America is too fucking scared for its own good these days, so they over police. Like I said above, Columbine and 9/11 have made for some scared shitless Americans. Fuck the war on terror, we need a war on mindless, numbnut, jump to conclusions assholes that are scared of their own shadows.

I recently read the piece on Colin Powell in the October issue of GQ Magazine. He said it best:

We are taking too much counsel of our fears...

Yes, there are a few dangerous nuts in Brooklyn and New Jersey who want to blow up Kennedy Airport and Fort Dix. These are dangerous criminals, and we must deal with them. But come on, this is not a threat to our survival! The only thing that can really destroy us is us. We shouldn't do it to ourselves, and we shouldn't use fear for political purposes -- scaring people to death to they will vote for you, or scaring people to death so that we create a terror-industrial complex.

You are perfectly typical of what I described. It's not what he drew. He gave the picture to some other kid. That's the key part. His motivation for doing to is the key. Maybe he thought it was a fine work of art, this stick figure drawing......maybe it was a love note......who knows. But if it WAS a threat of any kind, then, yes, he needed to be suspended.

Are you shitting me? It's a 7 year old child. You probably drew guns, explosions and other violent stuff when you were a child. For that matter, what little boy DOESN'T like a little violence? He probably drew the gun because he saw it on Power Rangers or some shit, not because he's a psychopathic killer or something at SEVEN YEARS OF AGE.

How could you read my last post and then write that? Is this forum the homepage for a LAN at a stupid convention or something?

My point is that tons of other kids have probably done the same thing before and nothing was made of it. Why? Because kids will be kids. Lots of boys draw guns and whatnot. Does that mean anything? Probably not. I understand what you're saying though about the motivation factor, so I'm not completely ignorant. All I'm saying is that it's just something that's been blown way out of proportion.

Bolded the key phrase. Also, he claims it was a water gun which probably makes him a lying little bastard.

Are you on CRACK? The kid is 7 years old. SEVEN. If he's in the 7th grade and he drew a picture with a gun and handed it to another kid and then lied about it being a water gun, then I would see why there can be a debate. This is a 7 year old. Have you seen the picture? It looks like a freaking scribbled POS to me.

Zero tolerance is a joke now. Like I see how it was debatable when kids went camping and accidentally left a knife in their backpack. Now it's things like DRAWINGS that are getting kids in trouble. Ugh. Way to ruin kids' lives.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Ronstang
Zero tolerance polices are simply a crutch used by administrators/teachers/parents because they are too lazy, too stupid, or both to make decisions and apply judgment anymore. They have become like phone tech support.....if it is not on the decision tree displayed on the screen they cannot solve the problem. The world is getting dumber.

QFT.

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