7 dead in shooting at Pittsburgh synagogue -- live updates

[mindless1]

100% sure this guy is a GOPer and trump supporter. 100% sure. This is the effect this presidency has had on America. Given courage to nutbags to act on this stupid ideas.

Yeah, the effect is so strong that Trump is even responsible for all mass shootings that happened before his presidency. 🙄

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

It's true. I'm just done being polite to disingenuous arseholes.

I understand and seeing this kind of thing is frustrating and ultimately drives violence by denial and diversion. I could give him a boatload of shit and reserve the right to do so, but ultimately it's facts that matter whether they're accepted or not. For my part he only gets those and some pity for having come to this state.

 

[1prophet]

I’m sure your thoughts and prayers are deeply comforting for the friends and families of those murdered there.

Maybe instead of that we should try to prevent the next tragedy.

The soviet union had very little crime, be careful of the solutions you wish for because the cure can be far worse than the disease.

I've forgotten nothing. The shooter was James T. Hodgkinson. Which Dem did he or his lawyers say was his father figure? Mamma? No one. He decided to do this without anyone who champions beating people and paying for their lawyers.

The problem you will have to effectively divert from is the history of the right and Trump.

Let's look at terroristic acts in the US, shall we?

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch...hirds-us-terrorism-tied-right-wing-extremists

That's from data investigated by a right-wing source BTW

Here's more you won't like.

• 115 right-wing inspired terror incidents. 35% of these were foiled (meaning no attack happened) and 29% resulted in fatalities. These terror incidents caused 79 deaths.
• 63 Islamist inspired terror incidents. 76% of these were foiled (meaning no attack happened) and 13% resulted in fatalities. These terror incidents caused 90 deaths.
• 19 incidents inspired by left-wing ideologies (including eco-terrorism). 20% of these were foiled (meaning no attack happened) and 10% resulted in fatalities. These terror incidents caused 7 deaths.

Find evidence-based and vetted data that shows that right-wing terrorism isn't the dominant kind in the US. You won't, but you will cite TDS.

You have no facts to support you. The MAGAbomber was inspired by Trump. Get over it. The Synagog shooter was cray cray right-winger who didn't like Trump because he wasn't effective at dealing with threats, not that he opposed Trump's ideals, just that they weren't far enough out there. Alike in kind, not magnitude perhaps.

Completely understandable that you would want to divert from the truth as it is just like Trump, scrutiny is the enemy for you and yours.

Know what? Go vote for your pro-violent side as is your right but your statements will only serve to counter your desire.

Statistics can make a mole hill look like a mountain and vice versa depending on how you present them and quantity doesn't mean more effective,

because only one of the 3 terrorist groups you mentioned helped bring about life altering changes to the USA including loss of many freedoms taken for granted and the constant fear used to justify more repressive government powers and actions.

The TSA, Homeland Security, Real ID act, The war & Occupation of Iraq, Patriot Act, No fly lists, Rendition, government justified torture, etc. , didn't happen because of any right or left wing ideologue engaging in terrorist acts.
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[umbrella39]

Fuck you.

Seriously guys... when one sock puppet account gets thoroughly beaten on here comes another... How many years now???

Ignore this basement dwelling pussy that is just jealous one of his ranks made it out of the celler and walked the walk...

 

[zinfamous]

The massive irresponsibility of conservatives feeding fanatics for years and the cost of their ultimate Faustian bargain with Trump is really coming into view. Basically surrendering the country to nuts, anti-semites, and white nationalists for political power.

Very much this.

I wonder who will be the first republicans to take responsibility for this disease that they have unquestionably been culturing for about 5 decades now. I wonder if we will see any on these forums?

 

[zinfamous]

Can't we just have good thoughts for those people and talk about this sad tragedy? This is a terrible act of hate, period! Trying to politicize it is in poor taste.
Some of the adolescent level posts in this thread are really sad and some disgusting. Class...I hope you find some now.

Sure, you promise to keep your politics out of science, the environment, and the truth and we'll keep it out of your precious pew-pew toys and party-endorsed racism and violent hate crimes.

We good?

 

[theeedude]

Terrible tragedy. Hopefully they find the people who passed the laws that made it possible.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

His posts included criticism of President Trump

I was just thinking about this. Trump tried to divert from his self created problems that have inflicted themselves on America by using fear by making up more baseless "facts" about the caravan. Well it did work and that's a reason Trump wasn't the guy for him. After all Trump confirmed his fears about how evil these people are and yet we're not attacking them at least yet.

Trump stirs up more killers, yet again.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Seriously guys... when one sock puppet account gets thoroughly beaten on here comes another... How many years now???

Ignore this basement dwelling pussy that is just jealous one of his ranks made it out of the celler and walked the walk...

So much this. The ignore feature with this forum software is so much better. No trace of the ignored even posting but one little easily over looked notice at the bottom of a page.

Put it to use. It’s great!

 

[zinfamous]

I see it as an insanity motivated hate crime. Rational people don't walk into a room full of people and open fire. The guys brain is defective, he's single track and can't see past that. He had to have others to hate, he had to have someone to blame for everything that his bent mind sees as wrong with the world. That's not politics, it's crazy. It's a fucked up world view from a brain that isn't capable of making rational decisions.
Put the guy away forever, or just put him down, he's broken and way past the point of being fixed.

Indeed. But the same people also need a push, a specific motivation to act on their crazy. There are plenty of identical types of crazies out there that don't act out like this guy. This is well known. It's just as well known that you can't really predict which ones will get the push--which ones will suddenly be "irresponsible" after a lifetime of responsibility.

Anyway, all it takes is a push. All public evidence that this guy put out there for everyone to see is that it was Trump, MAGA, and Trump being "controlled by the jews" that pushed him to go murder a bunch of them. The president, quite clearly, shares as much responsibility for these murders as does the trigger-puller. You can hold the president accountable when he approves a squad to go in and take out a high level target, just as well as you can hold the same man responsible for actively, deliberately, and repeatedly encouraging his followers to do violence on their political enemies, week in and week out, at every single one of his not-at-all vague propaganda rallies. It isn't any other way.

Just a little bit of concern about history and literacy, and anyone would be able to see what is so clearly plain.

 

[umbrella39]

So much this. The ignore feature with this forum software is so much better. No trace of the ignored even posting but one little easily over looked notice at the bottom of a page.

Put it to use. It’s great!

Indeed. The feature is so good when someone replies to them it looks like they are having a one sided conversation 🙂

 

[DigDog]

Why does it matter if you can or cannot associate this guy with trump or th gop or even the climate of hostility that trump is pushing? Do you NEED this to condemn trump? Has trump not done enough shit on his own ?




MSBC is saying 11 dead,7 wounded (1 critical).


Btw, they keep saying "an act that has stunned the world". We're not stunned. We've given up, and just shrug when you guy have yet another mass shooting.
Im sorry.

Gun laws work.

 

[zinfamous]

Making my point with every single post. Thanks. Now, go get some help.

Helluva response.

Oh wait, no it wasn't. You have nothing to back up your feelings. Facts and data be damned--feels are all it is.

But seriously, what is your point, other than: "You have data, I have 'nuh-uh!'"

 

[zinfamous]

Whatever you say...
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/27/us/synagogue-attack-suspect-robert-bowers-profile/index.html

His posts included criticism of President Trump
Among the many anti-Semitic social media posts were comments suggesting that President Trump was surrounded by too many Jewish people. "Trump is surrounded by k****", "things will stay the course," read one post on the Gab social media platform, which used a derogatory term to describe Jews. Another post, apparently intended as an insult, read: "Trump is a globalist, not a nationalist," Bowers said two days before the shooting. "There is no #MAGA as long as there is a k*** infestation.

He said he didn't vote for Trump

He's mad that Trump surrounded himself with "too many jews," who are, obviously, stopping Trump from real MAGA. Dude just thinks he is trying to help Trump.

Try to read.

 

[Sunburn74]

Yeah, the effect is so strong that Trump is even responsible for all mass shootings that happened before his presidency. 🙄

How many jewish synagogues were shot up during George bush's presidency? Why are jewish synagogues being shot up only after a candidate comes to power and refuses to denounce racists marching down US streets shouting "jews will not replace us?" or "Jew-S-A at his rallies"?

In fact, I can't remember the last president who had so many mass murderers and terrorists proudly wearing his hat and publicizing their support for him.

 

[IJTSSG]

"The president, quite clearly, shares as much responsibility for these murders as does the trigger-puller."

What's clear is that you suffer from the same TDS induced delusions as the rest of these fucktards. Go get some help. You and the rest of the TDS suffering, limp wristed bitch brigade have completely lost it and it's time for some mental health professionals to intervene.

 

[zinfamous]

Yeah, the effect is so strong that Trump is even responsible for all mass shootings that happened before his presidency. 🙄

marking this, because you are, here, the only idiot that has even suggested such nonsense. It is important to mark it, because this is the moment that you will cloud out when, days and months from now, you and your drooling pack will start shouting "people were saying that Trump is responsible for all pre-Trump shootings" and only in reference to some bullshit comment that only you invented.

 

[zinfamous]

"The president, quite clearly, shares as much responsibility for these murders as does the trigger-puller."

What's clear is that you suffer from the same TDS induced delusions as the rest of these fucktards. Go get some help. You and the rest of the TDS suffering, limp wristed bitch brigade have completely lost it and it's time for some mental health professionals to intervene.

You're just terrified that history says I am right, and that you are a gaslighted fascist-enabler.

"TDS" only exists in those wearing magahats and buried beneath the long hair as they yell their spittle into their cameras on youtube.

And lol at calling me "limp wristed" because that "worked" for you in the 70s and 80s. (what, filter stopped you from typing f@g, eh?) LoL. what a fucking ignorant loser. I get it. You feel that you lost the "culture wars" (that you invented). You see yourself surrounded by "limp wrists" and welfare queens, and it keeps your bed wet and ammoniac every night.

Fuck off, shitbag.

 

[balloonshark]

This is what happens when you empower racists and crazy people. Who would have thought leading would be so hard?

It's past time we label and treat these attacks for what they are. Acts of terror.

 

[IJTSSG]

You're just terrified that history says I am right, and that you are a gaslighted fascist-enabler.

"TDS" only exists in those wearing magahats and buried beneath the long hair as they yell their spittle into their cameras on youtube.

And lol at calling me "limp wristed" because that "worked" for you in the 70s and 80s. (what, filter stopped you from typing f@g, eh?) LoL. what a fucking ignorant loser. I get it. You feel that you lost the "culture wars" (that you invented). You see yourself surrounded by "limp wrists" and welfare queens, and it keeps your bed wet and ammoniac every night.

Fuck off, shitbag.

Why would anyone be terrified of you being right about anything. You've never been right about anything in your entire sorry fucking life. There's 90k+ posts that proof positive of that.
TDS exists in the fucktards who post "The president, quite clearly, shares as much responsibility for these murders as does the trigger-puller." No further evidence needs to be presented.

Suck my ass beautiful being. Suck my ass.

 

[UberNeuman]

Why would anyone be terrified of you being right about anything. You've never been right about anything in your entire sorry fucking life. There's 90k+ posts that proof positive of that.
TDS exists in the fucktards who post "The president, quite clearly, shares as much responsibility for these murders as does the trigger-puller." No further evidence needs to be presented.

Suck my ass ******************************. Suck my ass.

Hit him with your purse, lady.


lol.

 

[cytg111]

Suck my ass ******************************. Suck my ass.

I dont think that conveys the message you think it do... Or maybe it does?

 

[zinfamous]

Why would anyone be terrified of you being right about anything. You've never been right about anything in your entire sorry fucking life. There's 90k+ posts that proof positive of that.
TDS exists in the fucktards who post "The president, quite clearly, shares as much responsibility for these murders as does the trigger-puller." No further evidence needs to be presented.

Suck my ass ******************************. Suck my ass.

flailing mad projection. 90k posts = I've never been right about anything. ...90k posts is proof that everything is wrong.

Holy shit you are a drunk fucking imbecile. That just doesn't make any kind of sense. Just listen to yourself before you post, bro. That wouldn't even pass muster in the trucker bars that you hang out in, boy.

As for sucking your ass, Your posting here has convinced us that you live a miserable life and I have no interest in improving that for you. So, no, I will not indulge you a service that you clearly pine for.

 

[UberNeuman]

I dont think that conveys the message you think it do... Or maybe it does?

He gives good job.

 

[cytg111]

He gives good job.

I mean, it would explain the repressed anger... He should just come out of the closet then and set himself free, noone would judge him beyond that(except the conservatives of course)... Personally if I woke up tomorrow with the clear conviction I was gay and born to suck cocks, I would be perfectly fine with that... whatever floats.