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SithSolo1
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Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: SithSolo1
So true, ours came to ~$73K plus tax and destination.
WHAAAAT!?!?!
Pics or ban :laugh:
Yeah yeah. Initial deliveries aren't being made until July. The dealership expects our car to be in closer to October but you better believe I'll have a ton of pix and maybe some video too.
Can't wait for official times for the ZR-1. Hats off to Nissan for this. It's great that there are an increasing number of reasonably* priced supercars spanking the bejesus out of the high-end exotics.
*reasonable being defined as under $100k.
*reasonable being defined as under $100k.
PricklyPete
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- Sep 17, 2002
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Quite an amazing car from a tech standpoint. I still don't love the look of it...but you really can't get more value for the dollar in terms of sports cars. I would probably have an orgasm driving it.
PricklyPete
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Originally posted by: Owls
Those are insane numbers. The real litmus test, however, will be the number of people willing to put down 70k for a Nissan. I'm not knocking Nissan, but there are people who would rather pay more for less, if you understand.
Unbelievable car, though. ALMOST makes me rethink my M3 purchase although I can't shove a baby seat in there
All kinds of people pay 50K+ for a Chevy all the time...why wouldn't they buy a Nissan. Sure the Skyline's don't quite have the heritage of the Corvette...but it's not too far off...they have gotten really popular with our playstation generation.
overst33r
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- Oct 3, 2004
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The ZR1 has been hand timed at ~7:40, whether the driver was pushing the car to its limits is questionable. A ZR1 engineer was quoted as saying that the ZR1 will beat any production car on any track in the world. I'm guessing they'll have to make some changes now...
overst33r
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http://www.autoblog.com/2008/0...ing-of-the-ring-for-l/
The Nissan GT-R's 7:29 lap record won't stand for long if Chevrolet has anything to say about it. Speaking with InsideLine, Corvette Chief Engineer, Tadge Jeuchter, says that the ZR1, "will be able to take the production-car track record at any racetrack," and that although Chevy doesn't have a production version of the uber-Vette at the Nurburgring yet, they're expecting a lap time of "seven minutes, twenty-something seconds." That sounds like smack-talk to us. But while the ZR1 might have the potential to best the GT-R's 'Ring time, the 550-600 hp elephant in the room is the forthcoming GT-R V-Spec, which is already putting down (roughly-timed) laps around the North Loop in the 7:25 realm. Let the battle begin. We're making popcorn now.
Originally posted by: dug777
I love how angry little haters don't come back to threads like this after they've had their angry little hating stance put on a pedestal and shot down
Amazing car, what more can you say?
Don't be a self absorbed idiot. I'm a car lover first. I'm not a "fanboi" of any car and I was as skeptical as anyone else when they saw the time. I merely wanted a logical explanation and I was educated about it. End of story.
Seriously, how small IS your penis?
Originally posted by: dug777
I love how angry little haters don't come back to threads like this after they've had their angry little hating stance put on a pedestal and shot down
Amazing car, what more can you say?
You can say the time is probably bogus. Was anyone not from Nissan there to verify the run? Whether or not the actual time was achieved, I think it has already been pretty well established that Nissan at the very least understated the specs of the car. It's probably putting down closer to 480HP at the wheels than the crank. If the GT-R is really producing about 550HP, then its physics defying times become more realistic. Didn't Nissan also claim one of the previous generation Skylines broke 8 minutes at the ring, which raised more than a few eyebrows.
With such low production numbers (about 1500 annual) and it being a halo car, it's certainly not beyond the realm of possibility that Nissan is selling these at a loss. Bugatti is reportedly losing money on every Veyron it sells, and that car's over $1 million. If Nissan can build such an uber hypercar slayer for $70k and turn a respectable profit, why is the 350z such a piece of garbage relatively speaking at half the price?
dug777
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Originally posted by: Owls
Originally posted by: dug777
I love how angry little haters don't come back to threads like this after they've had their angry little hating stance put on a pedestal and shot down
Amazing car, what more can you say?
Don't be a self absorbed idiot. I'm a car lover first. I'm not a "fanboi" of any car and I was as skeptical as anyone else when they saw the time. I merely wanted a logical explanation and I was educated about it. End of story.
Seriously, how small IS your penis?
:laugh:
The connection between wangs and your angsty squawking isn't immediately obvious, care to elaborate?
overst33r
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Originally posted by: Pariah
Originally posted by: dug777
I love how angry little haters don't come back to threads like this after they've had their angry little hating stance put on a pedestal and shot down
Amazing car, what more can you say?
You can say the time is probably bogus. Was anyone not from Nissan there to verify the run? Whether or not the actual time was achieved, I think it has already been pretty well established that Nissan at the very least understated the specs of the car. It's probably putting down closer to 480HP at the wheels than the crank. If the GT-R is really producing about 550HP, then its physics defying times become more realistic. Didn't Nissan also claim one of the previous generation Skylines broke 8 minutes at the ring, which raised more than a few eyebrows.
With such low production numbers (about 1500 annual) and it being a halo car, it's certainly not beyond the realm of possibility that Nissan is selling these at a loss. Bugatti is reportedly losing money on every Veyron it sells, and that car's over $1 million. If Nissan can build such an uber hypercar slayer for $70k and turn a respectable profit, why is the 350z such a piece of garbage relatively speaking at half the price?
Goshn said the GTR will be axed if it doesn't turn a profit. The 1500 units is only for the first year. I'd expect that number to triple or even quadruple over the next few years.
In the UK, there is a 1000 units/month capability.
http://theyreviewed.blogspot.c...0-orders-for-gt-r.html
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: Owls
Originally posted by: dug777
I love how angry little haters don't come back to threads like this after they've had their angry little hating stance put on a pedestal and shot down
Amazing car, what more can you say?
Don't be a self absorbed idiot. I'm a car lover first. I'm not a "fanboi" of any car and I was as skeptical as anyone else when they saw the time. I merely wanted a logical explanation and I was educated about it. End of story.
Seriously, how small IS your penis?
:laugh:
The connection between wangs and your angsty squawking isn't immediately obvious, care to elaborate?
You are retarded. Stop posting in this area. You have added nothing insightful, anything remotely of value, or even be funny for that matter. Then again with 18 posts a day I doubt you ever have.
Originally posted by: Pariah
Originally posted by: dug777
I love how angry little haters don't come back to threads like this after they've had their angry little hating stance put on a pedestal and shot down
Amazing car, what more can you say?
You can say the time is probably bogus. Was anyone not from Nissan there to verify the run? Whether or not the actual time was achieved, I think it has already been pretty well established that Nissan at the very least understated the specs of the car. It's probably putting down closer to 480HP at the wheels than the crank. If the GT-R is really producing about 550HP, then its physics defying times become more realistic. Didn't Nissan also claim one of the previous generation Skylines broke 8 minutes at the ring, which raised more than a few eyebrows.
With such low production numbers (about 1500 annual) and it being a halo car, it's certainly not beyond the realm of possibility that Nissan is selling these at a loss. Bugatti is reportedly losing money on every Veyron it sells, and that car's over $1 million. If Nissan can build such an uber hypercar slayer for $70k and turn a respectable profit, why is the 350z such a piece of garbage relatively speaking at half the price?
I posted a similar post in an earlier GTR thread. You can see that the GTR is not as underrated as you think (ie, not close to 550 hp as posted by Pariah). Simply put, look at the trap speeds in comparison tests, cars with approx. 500 hp (ie stock z06) post massively higher speeds in the quarter. Beyond 100mph the GTR isnt even close.
And its not a grip issue either. In the same test, the 911 turbo (which is about 480hp stock), AWD, etc. also traps a significant amount quicker and is faster to 60mph...so much for the ultimate grip of the GTR AWD system w/launch control. (remember they post the best times, so there may be some variation).
However, the GTR generates far quicker laptimes than either the z06 or 911 turbo, as evidenced both by its nurburgring time and during independent track testing.
The Z06 has 505HP which is 25 more than Nissan claims and it weighs 600 lbs less. Motortrend posted a 3.2sec 0-60 which is the third fastest time they have ever tested, behind an Enzo and a Veyron. The 11.6 sec 1/4 is nothing to scoff at either.
GT-R 480HP 3800+lbs
3.2 0-60
11.6 sec 1/4 @ 119.7
Z06 505HP (SAE certified) 3234lbs
3.8 0-60
11.7 1/4 @ 125
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