6800GS / 6800GT same cards using different cores?

[mi1stormilst]

I was checking out newegg.com and noticed something odd:

GL 2.0 6800GS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150118


GL 1.5 6800GS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814122233

Now you might think that is a fluke but I am seeing it on 6800GT's as well:

GL 2.0 6800GT
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814135171
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814122209

GL 1.5 6800GT
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814170089
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814133140

Any thoughts?

 

[johnnqq]

gs and gt have different cores. the gl 1.5 isn't correct (obviously all 6800gt cards support gl 2.0)

 

[mi1stormilst]

there are quite a few of them that show 1.5 not just the one... what I really wanna know is if some of the GS models are using the core that the GT uses?

 

[imported_gravy]

original 6800GT's were NV40(AGP native, 130nm) cores, same as 6800Ultra, just lower clocked, 16 pipes, 6 vertex units

then came PCI-E native, 110nm core 6800GT's using NV45, 16 pipes, 6 vertex units

the 6800GS is an NV42 core, same core used for 6800Go Ultra used in laptops, 110nm 12 pipes, 5 vertex units, but runs at a higher clock speed than NV40 or NV45, which makes up for the 4 less pipes and one less vertex unit

also, the 6800GS is built on the Series 7 PCB, not the Series 6 PCB like previous 6800GT's, which makes perfect sense, Series 7 GPU's are 110nm, so by ending production of 130nm GPU's, you can save costs by keeping all cores 110nm and using the same PCB whenever possible and cost effective

more details here:

NV40
http://www.beyond3d.com/misc/chipcomp/?...rderby=release_date&order=Order&cname=

NV45
http://www.beyond3d.com/misc/chipcomp/?...rderby=release_date&order=Order&cname=

NV42
http://www.beyond3d.com/misc/chipcomp/?...rderby=release_date&order=Order&cname=

6800GS is a really nice card for the $$

oh, and never trust Newegg's specs for hardware, it's accurate about 80% only from my experience, all NV cards are OpenGL2.0 compliant as far as i know

 

[MDE]

All 6800GTs (and Ultras) are 130nm NV40 chips, the PCIe versions just have an on-package HSI bridge chip, and Nvidia decided to call the whole thing NV45.

 

[DaFinn]

Originally posted by: gravy
original 6800GT's were NV40(AGP native, 130nm) cores, same as 6800Ultra, just lower clocked, 16 pipes, 6 vertex units

then came PCI-E native, 110nm core 6800GT's using NV45, 16 pipes, 6 vertex units

the 6800GS is an NV42 core, same core used for 6800Go Ultra used in laptops, 110nm 12 pipes, 5 vertex units, but runs at a higher clock speed than NV40 or NV45, which makes up for the 4 less pipes and one less vertex unit

also, the 6800GS is built on the Series 7 PCB, not the Series 6 PCB like previous 6800GT's, which makes perfect sense, Series 7 GPU's are 110nm, so by ending production of 130nm GPU's, you can save costs by keeping all cores 110nm and using the same PCB whenever possible and cost effective

more details here:

NV40
http://www.beyond3d.com/misc/chipcomp/?...rderby=release_date&order=Order&cname=

NV45
http://www.beyond3d.com/misc/chipcomp/?...rderby=release_date&order=Order&cname=

NV42
http://www.beyond3d.com/misc/chipcomp/?...rderby=release_date&order=Order&cname=

6800GS is a really nice card for the $$

oh, and never trust Newegg's specs for hardware, it's accurate about 80% only from my experience, all NV cards are OpenGL2.0 compliant as far as i know

No... maybe read the links you provided???

NV40 = AGP8x/ 130nm
NV45 = NV40+HSI bridge for PCI-e/ 130nm
NV42 = shrunk version of NV41/native PCI-e/using 110nm process

NV42 is used in laptops (6800go) and in 6800GS.

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: gravy
original 6800GT's were NV40(AGP native, 130nm) cores, same as 6800Ultra, just lower clocked, 16 pipes, 6 vertex units

then came PCI-E native, 110nm core 6800GT's using NV45, 16 pipes, 6 vertex units

the 6800GS is an NV42 core, same core used for 6800Go Ultra used in laptops, 110nm 12 pipes, 5 vertex units, but runs at a higher clock speed than NV40 or NV45, which makes up for the 4 less pipes and one less vertex unit

also, the 6800GS is built on the Series 7 PCB, not the Series 6 PCB like previous 6800GT's, which makes perfect sense, Series 7 GPU's are 110nm, so by ending production of 130nm GPU's, you can save costs by keeping all cores 110nm and using the same PCB whenever possible and cost effective

more details here:

NV40
http://www.beyond3d.com/misc/chipcomp/?...rderby=release_date&order=Order&cname=

NV45
http://www.beyond3d.com/misc/chipcomp/?...rderby=release_date&order=Order&cname=

NV42
http://www.beyond3d.com/misc/chipcomp/?...rderby=release_date&order=Order&cname=

6800GS is a really nice card for the $$

oh, and never trust Newegg's specs for hardware, it's accurate about 80% only from my experience, all NV cards are OpenGL2.0 compliant as far as i know

your correct....part from the 110nm NV45, NV45 was just NV40 + HSI

 

[imported_gravy]

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer

Originally posted by: gravy
original 6800GT's were NV40(AGP native, 130nm) cores, same as 6800Ultra, just lower clocked, 16 pipes, 6 vertex units

then came PCI-E native, 110nm core 6800GT's using NV45, 16 pipes, 6 vertex units

the 6800GS is an NV42 core, same core used for 6800Go Ultra used in laptops, 110nm 12 pipes, 5 vertex units, but runs at a higher clock speed than NV40 or NV45, which makes up for the 4 less pipes and one less vertex unit

also, the 6800GS is built on the Series 7 PCB, not the Series 6 PCB like previous 6800GT's, which makes perfect sense, Series 7 GPU's are 110nm, so by ending production of 130nm GPU's, you can save costs by keeping all cores 110nm and using the same PCB whenever possible and cost effective

more details here:

NV40
http://www.beyond3d.com/misc/chipcomp/?...rderby=release_date&order=Order&cname=

NV45
http://www.beyond3d.com/misc/chipcomp/?...rderby=release_date&order=Order&cname=

NV42
http://www.beyond3d.com/misc/chipcomp/?...rderby=release_date&order=Order&cname=

6800GS is a really nice card for the $$

oh, and never trust Newegg's specs for hardware, it's accurate about 80% only from my experience, all NV cards are OpenGL2.0 compliant as far as i know

your correct....part from the 110nm NV45, NV45 was just NV40 + HSI

ahh yes, my mistake on NV45, but the rest was correct

also note:

6800GS to be released in AGP based on NV40

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27760

 

[imported_gravy]

Originally posted by: DaFinn

Originally posted by: gravy
original 6800GT's were NV40(AGP native, 130nm) cores, same as 6800Ultra, just lower clocked, 16 pipes, 6 vertex units

then came PCI-E native, 110nm core 6800GT's using NV45, 16 pipes, 6 vertex units

the 6800GS is an NV42 core, same core used for 6800Go Ultra used in laptops, 110nm 12 pipes, 5 vertex units, but runs at a higher clock speed than NV40 or NV45, which makes up for the 4 less pipes and one less vertex unit

also, the 6800GS is built on the Series 7 PCB, not the Series 6 PCB like previous 6800GT's, which makes perfect sense, Series 7 GPU's are 110nm, so by ending production of 130nm GPU's, you can save costs by keeping all cores 110nm and using the same PCB whenever possible and cost effective

more details here:

NV40
http://www.beyond3d.com/misc/chipcomp/?...rderby=release_date&order=Order&cname=

NV45
http://www.beyond3d.com/misc/chipcomp/?...rderby=release_date&order=Order&cname=

NV42
http://www.beyond3d.com/misc/chipcomp/?...rderby=release_date&order=Order&cname=

6800GS is a really nice card for the $$

oh, and never trust Newegg's specs for hardware, it's accurate about 80% only from my experience, all NV cards are OpenGL2.0 compliant as far as i know

No... maybe read the links you provided???

NV40 = AGP8x/ 130nm
NV45 = NV40+HSI bridge for PCI-e/ 130nm
NV42 = shrunk version of NV41/native PCI-e/using 110nm process

NV42 is used in laptops (6800go) and in 6800GS.

you were right about NV45, my mistake, but perhaps you should read.....