6800 GS agp, should it be renamed?
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n7
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d00d, get an X800XL already 
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/games-2005.html
I'd say the X800XL is a better value, unless you can find those AGP 6800GS out soon for way less.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/games-2005.html
I'd say the X800XL is a better value, unless you can find those AGP 6800GS out soon for way less.
dude.....i said announced today...doesnt mean to say launched today.
its still on pre-order, and loooking at the specs, seems slower than the PCI-E version. mite not be worth getting,
its still on pre-order, and loooking at the specs, seems slower than the PCI-E version. mite not be worth getting,
nitromullet
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LOL... awesome... bitch about the availability of a card that is rumored to exist sometime, but may never be produced.
i can pre order one on overclockers.co.uk
i trust them, the guy who runs it is pretty up front, will post on the forums when and what they've got in stock or whats coming into stock and when they'll have it, how many they'll have type of thing
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/6800_Series.html
there it is, not a bad price, but.......im not to sure about this card now. it appears to be slower than the PCI-E version, possibly because its based on the older NV40 and therefore doesnt clock as well.
im wondering, if thats the case, it may not be such a great idea
I do want it, it was supposed to be released today, atleast thats what the overseas site selling these had said, something like 40 available on 12-13-05
nitromullet
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Have you ever heard of an exchange rate before?
182.07 GBP = 322.086 USD
for an overclocked 6800nu core with GT GDDR3
and that doesn't include shipping from the UK...
6800GT AGP for $289.00 shipped from newegg in stock and ready to go...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130203
The GS is only a good deal in PCI-E because it's cheap.
Get a PCI-E motherboard and stopped getting raped on video cards.
182.07 GBP = 322.086 USD
for an overclocked 6800nu core with GT GDDR3
and that doesn't include shipping from the UK...
6800GT AGP for $289.00 shipped from newegg in stock and ready to go...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130203
The GS is only a good deal in PCI-E because it's cheap.
Get a PCI-E motherboard and stopped getting raped on video cards.
nitromullet
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i was in the car and I remembered this as well...
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0217999
$299 for an AGP Radeon X850XT with a $50 rebate. $250 for a card that will certainly outperform the 6800GS.
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0217999
$299 for an AGP Radeon X850XT with a $50 rebate. $250 for a card that will certainly outperform the 6800GS.
i agree
OP just get a PCI-E mobo............and before you ask, yes you can get PCI-E socket 754 mobos if you need one, (theyre based on the NF4 -4X chipset) and they are reasonably cheap.
having looked at this XFX 6800GS, and if those specs are true, and if my assumptions are true (ie it being based of the older NV40, hence the reason its not clocked so high as the PCI_e ver) then i really dont think its worth your time.
picking up a used 6800gt would probably land you better off.
your gonna have to go PCI-E some time, AGP is out......you'll be much better off if you just suck it up and buy a PCI-E mobo
I would love to go PCIe, but i have a P4 skt 478 3.0E, not too many boards around for that. I also need a new PSU (mine is a Rosewill 400w), and more RAM (Ihave 512mb generic). So the only way i can get in the game is to go AGP. Also, I would need a copy of windws xp....using a new board and all. The copy I have now is from a retail computer that I bought a yr and a half ago. They dont include the discs anymore, but give u a utility to make your own restore disc
blckgrffn
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Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
I would love to go PCIe, but i have a P4 skt 478 3.0E, not too many boards around for that. I also need a new PSU (mine is a Rosewill 400w), and more RAM (Ihave 512mb generic). So the only way i can get in the game is to go AGP. Also, I would need a copy of windws xp....using a new board and all. The copy I have now is from a retail computer that I bought a yr and a half ago. They dont include the discs anymore, but give u a utility to make your own restore disc
Media isn't hard to find. Your CD key will work, but you will just have to activate it.
Nat
*edit - not saying that you should upgrade, just pointing out you wouldn't have to really buy a new OS. Are you supposed to? Yes
what about the motherboard drivers (chipset right?)? arent they included with my restore disc ? so when i go put a new mobo in, will those drivers conflict with the new ones?
in theory you can install new mobo etc and get away with out a reinstall of windows, though when i change anything like that, WIN XP pro gets a refresh.
i see what you mean, not many if any 478 pci-e boards going round. you could possibly do it in safe mode, uninstall the old ones, then install the new ones...........and dont bother with drivers of a disc, they WILL be out of date.
you can get the latest drivers from intel, unless you have vendor specific stuff in there in which case go to the vendor's website for the updated drivers.
drivers come on the disc to get you going, once your going you grab the latest ones from the respective websites.
it shoudlnt be too bad, if your switching intel to intel.
nitromullet
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np, Hammer67
The thing is... Buy staying on an AGP platform, you are just prolonging the inevitable and screwing yourself over in the process. Case in point, you're willing to spend $289 on an AGP 6800GT when you could be getting a skt939 motherboard and 7800GT for $360.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications...m-details.asp?EdpNo=1644233&CatId=2023
You could use your current RAM, pick up an Anthlon64 3000+ for $150, and decent PSU for $75.
As far as Windows goes, you have a legit license, so I'm sure you can figure out a way to get a Windows CD from somewhere that you can use.
That puts you at a grand total of $585 for almost a whole new PC that will smoke your current box even if it did have a $289 6800GT in it (which will be worth next to nothing by the time you decide to get rid of it). If you get a bit more crafty, you can take a peek on ebay and see what P4 skt 478 3.0E's are going for used... I did, and it looks like people are easily getting $125. This brings your total out of pocket cost down to $460. Be creative, I bet you can make this work if you try.
Then again, it's up to you. Don't let me pressure you... I'm just showing you an example of how you could go for a much larger upgrade by spending a little more. There are other people on AT forums that are way better then me at finding this stuff too, check out the Hot Deals forums.
The thing is... Buy staying on an AGP platform, you are just prolonging the inevitable and screwing yourself over in the process. Case in point, you're willing to spend $289 on an AGP 6800GT when you could be getting a skt939 motherboard and 7800GT for $360.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications...m-details.asp?EdpNo=1644233&CatId=2023
You could use your current RAM, pick up an Anthlon64 3000+ for $150, and decent PSU for $75.
As far as Windows goes, you have a legit license, so I'm sure you can figure out a way to get a Windows CD from somewhere that you can use.
That puts you at a grand total of $585 for almost a whole new PC that will smoke your current box even if it did have a $289 6800GT in it (which will be worth next to nothing by the time you decide to get rid of it). If you get a bit more crafty, you can take a peek on ebay and see what P4 skt 478 3.0E's are going for used... I did, and it looks like people are easily getting $125. This brings your total out of pocket cost down to $460. Be creative, I bet you can make this work if you try.
Then again, it's up to you. Don't let me pressure you... I'm just showing you an example of how you could go for a much larger upgrade by spending a little more. There are other people on AT forums that are way better then me at finding this stuff too, check out the Hot Deals forums.
blckgrffn
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There are hardly any motherboards that support socket 478 and have pci express. The ones that do are not good. With that bundle you linked you'd still need to buy an athlon cpu so yeah it would cost a lot more money than just buying a AGP video card.
I sort of agree with you here. For me, My PC has been an ever evolving machine since I bought my first and only full system back in 1994. I have followed your process many times. Jumping form a P3 to a P4 system and selling the P3 MB/CPU/RAM combo and almost paying for the upgrade.
In my situation, though, I have a P4 system that still runs unbelievably well. My gaming experiences have been just fine for me. Plus, gaming benchmarks are still determined by your graphics card (90% of them, anyway). I have 1 gb of ram so I am fine there. FOr me, I want to make my current machine last and I see no need to jump up my entire system yet. I would rather through more money at a top of the line graphics card and extend my system that way. Besides, the last round of PCI-E cards were not that much faster, if at all, then their AGP counterparts. They still have yet to tap into the potential of the bus speeds. And, software is always behind. I got 2 solid years out of my Radeon 9800 Pro before any hiccups which just happened with FEAR. And, even then I waited till that card fell in price to about $200 when I bought it...
So, in some cases this makes sense, but in others, throwing your money at a graphics card makes sense. Trust me...I wish I had the cash for the gaming rig you have in your sig. Unfortunately I am not in the position to upgrade to that when my current machine is running fine.
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