64 Core Threadripper 3 to cost $3,800(Opinion)

[lobz]

It's oddly amusing, how good of a bet the OP has made all the way back in August

 

[nicalandia]

I was really close, and to be honest its a real steal when you really think about the amount of performance on that CPU

 

[Markfw]

I was really close, and to be honest its a real steal when you really think about the amount of performance on that CPU

OK, did I miss it ? did AMD give a price on it ?

Edit: I just saw your post in the 56 core cooper lake, with the 3990x at $3,990. Surprised its that low with the 3970x at $2000. Anyway, glad to see intel getting thri hiney handed to them for less than half the price.

 

[lightmanek]

OK, did I miss it ? did AMD give a price on it ?

Yep, $3990 for TR3990X.
Price given close to the end of keynote.

 

[Panino Manino]

If you work with the things this CPU is intended to do and still goes with Intel you're must be clinic insane.
It's faster and FIVE TIMES cheaper?
Of course, you don't need to buy the top of the line Intel and pay the biggest price, but considering how slow will it be compared with this option... If AMD don't get at least 30% market share this year, just give up.

 

[nicalandia]

One CPU To Rule them ALL..!

https://www.ixbt.com/img/n1/news/2020/0/2/AMD-Ryzen-Threadripper-3990X-1030x580_large.jpg

 

[Markfw]

One CPU To Rule them ALL..!

https://www.ixbt.com/img/n1/news/2020/0/2/AMD-Ryzen-Threadripper-3990X-1030x580_large.jpg

Available Feb 2020 ? Crap, there goes the budget..... I have 64 cores of EPYC, series 7001 (way slower than rome) And I have $4000 in the box. So of course I have to get this one......

BTW 3950x on the way tomorrow.....

Edit: OK, what am I missing ? first Intel almost looses the gaming to 3000 series Ryzen. Then Ryzen 3970x obliterates Intel HEDT. Rome Obliterates all Xeons, ( in price, performance, power, every way)

Now this ? This is faster than the 7H12 EPYC I bet. Nobody can touch this. And dual 7h12's ??

And Renior is now going to own laptops ?

Why is Intel not bleeding at every joint ? Not that they are going to go bankrupt or anything, but this is more than a slight setback, this is getting put out to pasture. If they don't get it together soon, they are really going to be in trouble.

Sad day for Intel

Edit2: and if that wasn't enough to kill the budget, I just got an email from B&H photo, the 3970x is not back in stock for MSRP !

 

[nicalandia]

BTW 3950x on the way tomorrow.....

I am not sure what you do for a living but I truly envy you..

 

[Markfw]

I am not sure what you do for a living but I truly envy you..

I am retired from a very large company where I worked in IT.

 

[StinkyPinky]

You must have owned the company!

 

[Kocicak]

It starts to seem that the 48 core is not coming at all? 3990X shipping in february is pretty late to the game and I cannot imagine anything else coming even later than this.

 

[JasonLD]

It starts to seem that the 48 core is not coming at all? 3990X shipping in february is pretty late to the game and I cannot imagine anything else coming even later than this.

I still think it will happen. There is $2000 gap between 3970x and 3990x. 48 Cores slots in nicely on $2999 price. Just need to harvest enough 6-core chiplets to make it happen.

 

[lobz]

It starts to seem that the 48 core is not coming at all? 3990X shipping in february is pretty late to the game and I cannot imagine anything else coming even later than this.

Whether the 48 core comes or not is debatable (there are HWinfo leaks saying it would come), but why on Earth would the 3990X be late to the game? Not just Intel doesn't even endanger the 3970X at all, but they won't even have anything for probably more than a year that would come even remotely close to the 3990X.
I'd say it's just on time, for a lot of workloads it's by far the fastest CPU that you can actually buy and build a system with, and it will stay that way for a long time.

 

[moinmoin]

This thread need this slide from the CES presentation (the one from the slide deck is not as efficient due to the lack of three screens ):

 

[Kocicak]

3990X is late to the game because it comes just a half year before its successor, and just weeks (?) before some rumors about how wonderful the sucessor is going to be will start to emerge.

If 3980X was coming, why not to announce it in this presentation? What better time for that could you imagine???

 

[lobz]

3990X is late to the game because it comes just a half year before its successor, and just weeks (?) before some rumors about how wonderful the sucessor is going to be will start to emerge.

If 3980W was coming, why not to announce it in this presentation? What better time for that could you imagine???

You can bet your whole fortune that the next threadripper does not come in half a year. A year _at the earliest_

What are you talking about?

 

[Gideon]

The price is actually quite good. Much better than i feared!

Lucky for us the entire lineup isn't prized by the model name. Just Imagine R5 3600X going for $3600

 

[krumme]

The price is actually quite good. Much better than i feared!

Lucky for us the entire lineup isn't prized by the model name. Just Imagine R5 3600X going for $3600

It looks to me amd have redefined the hedt market. As i recall the 3990 is about twice as expensive as a 10c broadwell.
The performance difference is insane and its only 3 years ago.
Power consumption is about double.
Price is double.
Hedt is eating into server market.

Time for Intel to buy more own shares. Lol.
I do not hope this ends in some huge shareprice colapse in 2 years time.
2007 again no thank you.

 

[beginner99]

Why is Intel not bleeding at every joint ?

Go to any of the big OEMs (dell, hp,...) and look what laptops, workstations and servers they offer. Count AMD vs intel offers. this is what medium-large companies buy. (Hint: Mostly intel systems)

 

[Thunder 57]

3990X is late to the game because it comes just a half year before its successor, and just weeks (?) before some rumors about how wonderful the sucessor is going to be will start to emerge.

If 3980X was coming, why not to announce it in this presentation? What better time for that could you imagine???

I'm starting to wonder if you just hate AMD. I mean your post history pretty much speaks for itself.

 

[JasonLD]

Intel needs some major paradigm shift on design on their HEDT lineup (Not only getting 10nm fixed, but chiplets with EMIB) with Sapphire Rapids in 2021 to compete with AMD’s HEDT lineup.

 

[amrnuke]

This thread need this slide from the CES presentation (the one from the slide deck is not as efficient due to the lack of three screens ):

IMO slightly disingenuous to leave HEDT parts off the comparison here... i.e. 9980XE / 10980XE, though it still loses to the 3950X which is $250 cheaper.

 

[Kocicak]

IMO slightly disingenuous to leave HEDT parts off the comparison here... i.e. 9980XE / 10980XE ...

9900KS was only used for comparison with 3950X.

I see the graph as two comparisons in one, 9900KS with 3950X and the second one of all AMD parts. Although I am not sure if it would not have been better to put these two comparisons on two separate slides.

 

[Panino Manino]

Our buddy Piednoel says this CPU shows "terrible architecture scaling", because the 50% additional cores (at lower clocks same TDP) scales only 48%.
Giving the benefit of the doubt, is he right?

 

[Hitman928]

Our buddy Piednoel says this CPU shows "terrible architecture scaling", because the 50% additional cores (at lower clocks same TDP) scales only 48%.
Giving the benefit of the doubt, is he right?

It's 100% more cores for 48.5% scaling. The key is that it's the same TDP which the 32 core part was already using in its entirety, so the scaling is 48.5% more performance for 0% higher power which seems pretty good to me. Actually, I think the bigger key is what can intel offer within the same TDP? Answer that and then we can talk about architecture scaling.