64 bit?

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Ok i got outa the whole computer seen a while during this whole 32bit to 64 bit change over ... im running windows xp on a sony vaio that has a p4 3ghz HT processor ... how can i tell rather its a 64 bit or 32 bit operating system ...
 

Nothinman

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I believe System Properties in Windows will tell you that, but AFAIK no P4s are 64-bit (maybe Xeons...) and unless you specifically bought or asked for XP64 you received XP32.
 

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Originally posted by: Steve325
what's the advantages of 64 bit?

No longer being limited to 4gig of address space per process.
 

Nothinman

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what's the advantages of 64 bit?

The search button on the forums appears so that you can read the responses to all of the other people that ask that same question...
 

videopho

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Or...
A 6-lane freeway can digest more traffic than a 3-lane one.
I'm pretty sure by now you get the picture.
 

Nothinman

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Or...
A 6-lane freeway can digest more traffic than a 3-lane one.
I'm pretty sure by now you get the picture.

Not really, 64-bit and higher precision math has been available on 32-bit CPUs for quite a while with MMX, SSE, etc.
 

videopho

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Originally posted by: Nothinman
Or...
A 6-lane freeway can digest more traffic than a 3-lane one.
I'm pretty sure by now you get the picture.

Not really, 64-bit and higher precision math has been available on 32-bit CPUs for quite a while with MMX, SSE, etc.

Duh?
Stay with generic terms and plain English!!!
 

Aluvus

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Originally posted by: Nothinman
I believe System Properties in Windows will tell you that, but AFAIK no P4s are 64-bit (maybe Xeons...) and unless you specifically bought or asked for XP64 you received XP32.

Cedar Mill, Prescott 2M, and some Socket T Prescott Pentium 4s all support the 64-bit extensions. AFAIK no mobile P4s suport them.
 

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99% chance you are running 32bit XP. XP 64 isn't really widely supported, so it's extremely unlikely you would get it with an OEM system, without specificly requesting it. There really isn't a whole lot of advantage for a 64bit OS on a desktop system for most people yet. There aren't a lot of applications that take advantage of it yet. Like already mentioned, there are some versions of the P4 that have 64bit. 5x1(rare) series and 6xx series P4's have 64bit capabilities.
 

Nothinman

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Cedar Mill, Prescott 2M, and some Socket T Prescott Pentium 4s all support the 64-bit extensions. AFAIK no mobile P4s suport them.

Which means absolutely nothing to those of us who don't follow Intel's development cycle like a metal groupie. Maybe I'm retarded but I don't think I should have to know chip codenames to determine what features the chip supports.
 

Aluvus

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Originally posted by: Nothinman
Cedar Mill, Prescott 2M, and some Socket T Prescott Pentium 4s all support the 64-bit extensions. AFAIK no mobile P4s suport them.

Which means absolutely nothing to those of us who don't follow Intel's development cycle like a metal groupie. Maybe I'm retarded but I don't think I should have to know chip codenames to determine what features the chip supports.

I thought it might be kinder to say than "virtually all Socket T Pentium 4s support the 64-bit extensions".

But yes, I can certainly sympathize with the sometimes-hilarious complexity of sorting out such things. For that matter, I could say much the same thing about Linux distros, cars, iPods, etc. I suppose that's just the way it goes.
 

Nothinman

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But yes, I can certainly sympathize with the sometimes-hilarious complexity of sorting out such things. For that matter, I could say much the same thing about Linux distros, cars, iPods, etc. I suppose that's just the way it goes.

The difference being that I can buy any car on the market and be sure that it'll work on every road and every iPod will work with my ears.
 

Aluvus

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Originally posted by: Nothinman

The difference being that I can buy any car on the market and be sure that it'll work on every road and every iPod will work with my ears.

Gone shopping for third-party iPod accessories any time recently? ;)
 

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Originally posted by: Aluvus
Originally posted by: Nothinman

The difference being that I can buy any car on the market and be sure that it'll work on every road and every iPod will work with my ears.

Gone shopping for third-party iPod accessories any time recently? ;)

Learned to read what was posrted and not make up your own thoughts and pur them into other people's mouth?

He was saying every iPod will let you listen to music and any car will get you from point a to point b. There was no mention of accessories...
 

Aluvus

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Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Learned to read what was posrted and not make up your own thoughts and pur them into other people's mouth?

He was saying every iPod will let you listen to music and any car will get you from point a to point b. There was no mention of accessories...

Wow, you should relax. I understood what he was saying just fine, hence my related but different (and entirely light-hearted) example.
 

stash

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Which means absolutely nothing to those of us who don't follow Intel's development cycle like a metal groupie.
Hey, there's no need to insult metal groupies!

:p