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64-bit upgrade

normedia1

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Hi all, I just bought this $2000 PC from Gateway and you would think it would come with Vista Ultimate 64-bit edition but it just comes with Vista Premium 32-bit.
My question is how can I update my Vista to 64-bit version, and what improvements can I expect. Thanks again!
 
Originally posted by: normedia1
Hi all, I just bought this $2000 PC from Gateway and you would think it would come with Vista Ultimate 64-bit edition but it just comes with Vista Premium 32-bit.
My question is how can I update my Vista to 64-bit version, and what improvements can I expect. Thanks again!

If you can find a DVD with the 64 bit version on it, then technically you should be able to transfer your 32 bit license key over to the 64 bit version; as MS sets the package according to the version, not how many bits it has.

As far as improvements? If you have over 3 GB of memory and do a lot of heavy graphics work and what-not, you may see performance gains on apps that use over 3 GB of memory. IE works slightly faster, and some apps run slightly faster. On the other hand many of your old drivers won't work and you'll be dealing with a lot of oddball issues. Expect to spend a week or two ironing out the bugs in your system.

Working as a professional in the PC field I had a heck of a time getting everything in 64-bit Vista working correctly. Now that I've spent a few things working on it, tweaking it, etc. I'm loving it, but there is a steep learning curve when it comes to dealing with drivers that don't work right, videos that don't play right, or games that won't work right.
 
The core (kernel) of the two operating systems are different and an "upgrade" is not possible. You must do a clean install of Vista 64 to either an empty partition or a separate hard drive. Please understand that altering the stock configuration of your computer in this manner is a big change and gives your maker a legally viable reason to deny support. If you are technical enough to not need it, then fine. If not?? Well..

As far as licencing: Since your computer is OEM, your current licence key is not transferable. You will need to buy a separate copy of Vista 64 and use the key associated with that. Yes, buying another OEM copy would save you a few dollars.

As far as improvements: Compared to your current 32/Premium, 64 Ultimate will add backup/shadow copy, Fax capabilities, Remote Desktop, and a few other goodies. In my experience, drivers are *much* *much* less of an issue than they were a year ago - The caveat being if you have old accessories around. Make sure those have drivers, or be prepared to replace them. Also, Shareware/freeware which is not digitally signed will NOT get past Vista 64's security. So if you habitually use such programs, be advised you will no longer be able to do so in many cases. There are some workarounds, but no permanent alternative short of editing the registry.

The other minor issue is there is no 64 bit version of Flash. So if you use a 64 bit browser, Flash based content will not work at all. Having said that - You can run a 32 bit Browser (using Firefox ATM), with Flash installed on it, and that works perfectly.

I went to 64 in stages - Dual booting with 32 bit Vista for a short period of time. In and of itself, Vista 64 is a bit quicker and perceptibly snappier than 32. Not an "Oh My Gawdd" difference. But noticable just the same. I update/upgrade my software as a matter of long habit, and have had no issues with any purchasable programs. Older items can be run in various selectable compatibility modes, but by and large everything just runs.

From a reliability perspective, it is my experience that Vista 64 is more solid and stable than 32. NO program crash has ever taken down V64 since I've been running it. I cannot say the same for V32 or XP32. There is a bit of a down side tho - In the case of a bad program or driver, the lack of Blue Screen codes can make troubleshooting more difficult.

From a user perspective, Vista 32 and Vista 64 are almost exactly the same. Most people would only notice the fact you have two versions of Internet Exploder instead of one, and if they looked they'd see the version installed is 64 bit.
 
Originally posted by: Scotteq
As far as licencing: Since your computer is OEM, your current licence key is not transferable. You will need to buy a separate copy of Vista 64 and use the key associated with that. Yes, buying another OEM copy would save you a few dollars.
Except, he's not "transferring" the OS install. He's re-installing the same OS using the same key, using 64-bit media, not 32-bit install media. AFAIK, that's completely allowed by MS. After all, they don't make you buy another license when you want to install the 64-bit edition, you just have to pay them for the media costs for the 64-bit media. The license is the same between 32-bit and 64-bit.

 
Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
Originally posted by: Scotteq
As far as licencing: Since your computer is OEM, your current licence key is not transferable. You will need to buy a separate copy of Vista 64 and use the key associated with that. Yes, buying another OEM copy would save you a few dollars.
Except, he's not "transferring" the OS install. He's re-installing the same OS using the same key, using 64-bit media, not 32-bit install media. AFAIK, that's completely allowed by MS. After all, they don't make you buy another license when you want to install the 64-bit edition, you just have to pay them for the media costs for the 64-bit media. The license is the same between 32-bit and 64-bit.


If he had a retail licence, he would not need a new key. So you are correct in that sense. He would only need the 64 bit media, which in that case MSFT would send him for something like $10 US. But an OEM licence is not upgradable in this way.
 
Originally posted by: Scotteq
Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
Originally posted by: Scotteq
As far as licencing: Since your computer is OEM, your current licence key is not transferable. You will need to buy a separate copy of Vista 64 and use the key associated with that. Yes, buying another OEM copy would save you a few dollars.
Except, he's not "transferring" the OS install. He's re-installing the same OS using the same key, using 64-bit media, not 32-bit install media. AFAIK, that's completely allowed by MS. After all, they don't make you buy another license when you want to install the 64-bit edition, you just have to pay them for the media costs for the 64-bit media. The license is the same between 32-bit and 64-bit.


If he had a retail licence, he would not need a new key. So you are correct in that sense. He would only need the 64 bit media, which in that case MSFT would send him for something like $10 US. But an OEM licence is not upgradable in this way.

Where does it state this in the license agreement? I wasn't able to find specific language of this anywhere on an OEM 32 bit Vista EULA that I had. Does this include the OEM versions you would buy from Newegg as an example?
 
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