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$61K for a Volt...

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There is no question the first three or four generations of hybrids or electric vehicles will be marketed based on the "me too" environmental and prestige factor, those people who have the income and either want to support the "cause", want to be seen by their friends in it, or both, and will be heavily subsidized.

GM should have no problem pulling this kind of marketing off. Whereas the Japanese have perfected marketing cars based on the no-frills economic or practical value, the Big Three have been producing autos for generations that appeal to something else entirely (e.g. the Escalades, Navigators, Camaros, Chevelles, et. al.).

GM knows how to design and market a car that screams "Don't listen to that conservative tight-wad father or father-in-law, who has never been in touch with emotions such as excitement, exhilaration, and satisfaction. You are not the type who runs the economic or practical cost/benefit analysis of owning a car before you buy it. You don't ask questions like 'Does this make sense?' And we have just the auto for you."
 
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Calm down there. I can't stop the Volt all by myself. So quit worrying. It will be for sale soon.

Why don't you explain to me why I should pay $31.5K for the Volt over another well equipped economical car which will be much cheaper?

I have nothing against the Volt per se. I just can't see any economic sense in buying it.

That didn't bother the Prius, though. 😀

Cheaper is not the reason you by a Volt.

We get it, you can't afford it and are pissed....but it's getting a bit old.

If the market is signing on for it (and they are) you are simply wrong.
 
Cheaper is not the reason you by a Volt.

I never hinted that it was. I'm thinking about lower income folks and affordability.

We get it, you can't afford it and are pissed....but it's getting a bit old.

Is it just too much trouble to read my posts? Wrong on both counts.

If the market is signing on for it (and they are) you are simply wrong.

Wrong about what? I think many will sell. I'm well aware of the orders. I have been following the Volt and correcting misperceptions about how it operates for a long time.
 
Same. Rural area. Which sucks. Gas prices, car prices usually hurt the worst for rural areas. There is no public transportation and the distance to work is usually longer. Add the lower average wages as well.
 
Whoever actually pays a $20,000 markup on a car should be forced to have an L branded on their forehead :twisted:
 
A Prius doesn't make financial sense, a Ford Mustang doesn't make financial sense, a Camry doesn't make financial sense. I really hope you own something like a Kia Rio cus that's the only thing that seems like it'd make financial sense to you.
 
With the gas you save it's still worth it at $61.5k.

Compared to a sedan in the low 20k range - 40k buys you a lot of gas... you had better be planning to drive that Volt for 400k miles on batteries.

Oh wait they probably won't last that long...

(granted this doesn't take into account future gas price rises which may occur).
 
Compared to a sedan in the low 20k range - 40k buys you a lot of gas... you had better be planning to drive that Volt for 400k miles on batteries.

Oh wait they probably won't last that long...

(granted this doesn't take into account future gas price rises which may occur).

Hm. My car is now a year old. 19.5 k miles. I've spent ~$3000 in gas (93 octane in Houston). 40k in gas would be near/over 10 years worth of gas for someone doing 20k miles a year on 93 octane in Texas even if prices increase moderately.
 
Unless you charge the batteries with solar panels or a windmill, it's still polluting. The volt relocates the pollution, it doesn't eliminate it.
Sometimes it occurs to me that some people actually don't realize this.

I saw a couple days ago and again today in Rochester a Chevy Equinox (?) with fuel cell junk plastered all over it. I know that they have an R&D center here for it. I didn't notice but Mrs said it had no tailpipe 🙂
 
I know you are all waiting for my divine skills of clairvoyance to tell you how this will unfold (I know you are), so here it is:


Man will buy Volt at $20k mark-up

Man will have picture taken, standing next to Volt, giving a thumbs up and wearing a big smile on his face

Man will blog about being the most environmentally friendly person in existence - from his 10,000sq ft. 5 bathroom home

Man will inevitably post picture on his blog

...and the internet will laugh.
 
Dealerships will try to get what they can for any car. Without a doubt, all the people crying about how high the MSRP is for the Volt couldn't be more wrong if the dealerships believe they can sell these for $20k over (and more than a few probably will sell for that early on).

It's completely beyond me why people think this is some sort of economy targetted car. It never has been, GM has never said it was, and it's simply not going to be anytime in the next few years. The 1st generation Prius was a pioneer hybrid in this market, but at the same time if it had a regular gasoline engine, no one would have been able to look past the fact it was a junk car. The Volt is not making the same usability/quality compromises that Prius did, they aren't targetting the same market.

Man will buy Volt at $20k mark-up

Man will have picture taken, standing next to Volt, giving a thumbs up and wearing a big smile on his face

Man will blog about being the most environmentally friendly person in existence - from his 10,000sq ft. 5 bathroom home

Man will inevitably post picture on his blog

...and the internet will laugh.


You forgot the last line:

Man who can afford to spend $61k on a Chevy Volt doesn't care what broke 15 year old trolls on the internet think about his purchasing decisions.
 
I know you are all waiting for my divine skills of clairvoyance to tell you how this will unfold (I know you are), so here it is:


Man will buy Volt at $20k mark-up

Man will have picture taken, standing next to Volt, giving a thumbs up and wearing a big smile on his face

Man will blog about being the most environmentally friendly person in existence - from his 10,000sq ft. 5 bathroom home

Man will inevitably post picture on his blog

...and the internet will laugh.

as will he as he signs off and sportfucks a supermodel.
 
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