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OOBradm

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Im glad most of you can see the difference too. I tell all of my friends I can clearly see the difference between 60hz and 85hz and their like "Bullsh!t"
But now I know Im not crazy
 

drinkmorejava

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Jun 24, 2004
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It's like this, but not really, but mostly...get it, good.

The human eye can detect specific frames of an image at less than 30(+/-5)fps. However, this does not mean you can't differentiate that something is still changing faster than that. This is why you can still detect a flicker on a 60hz monitor, however, I challenge you to be able to see the jump in the frames of a video/animation at 60fps, you simply can't. That said, the airforce (no linky, find it yourself) has shown that people can detect changes subconsciously and consciously in an image at over 200fps.
 

mordantmonkey

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Originally posted by: dullard
I'm just stating that it is a common misconception that since you have trouble with 60 Hz that your eyes can see at 60 Hz.
ahh that's why my OP clearly said "detect".

and yeah i think the 30fps thing is what it takes to see a smooth animation. actually i think it's closer to 24fps. i think drikmorejava hit it on the head.
 

dullard

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May 21, 2001
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Originally posted by: mordantmonkey
ahh that's why my OP clearly said "detect".

and yeah i think the 30fps thing is what it takes to see a smooth animation. actually i think it's closer to 24fps. i think drikmorejava hit it on the head.
Yes, many people just confuse similar topics. There is the refresh rate of the program, the refresh rate of the video card, the refresh rate of the monitor, and the "refresh" rate of your eyes (if you can call it that). A good program/video card/monitor displaying at 30 Hz would be plenty to see smooth motion with plenty of detail. But that doesn't mean that your eyes themselves are right at 30 Hz.

You are normal if you are bothered with 60 Hz monitors. Many people can detect problems at that rate.
 

0roo0roo

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its annoying to me that anyone could think its normal. atleaest now lcds are taking over at places like libraries
 

SamurAchzar

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LCDs don't have refresh in the same way CRTs do, the image is static.

The problem is they have flourescent backlight which does have some sort of very mild flickering (I'm driven crazy by overhead office lighting, destroyed all of that around my cubicle...).