60GB PS3 gone after July

[hans030390]

I just remembered this: The PS3/Motorstorm bundle is a "limited edition" bundle.

Perhaps after it's "all out" they will drop the price on the 80gb model?

Watch the "limited" edition go for years on end...

 

[herkulease]

Originally posted by: purbeast0
Sony's 1st good move - $500 for the 60gb PS3.

Sony's 1st bad move - $600 for a completely new SKU.
Sony's 2nd bad move - Stopping production of the 60gb PS3.

As with most people I thought Sony was making a great move w/the price drop - then I saw the new SKU.

And now this on top of that.

Wow ... Sony really needs to do a lot of firng and rehiring.

actually sony's first bad move is discontinuing the 20 gb model. I had eyed the model as the one I would've gotten eventually.

didn't care for the media card reader or built in wireless. I have PC already and my home is already completely networked. the user upgradeable hard drive made things even easier. wait for newegg or frys to ahve a nice sale on 100gb+ drive.

Sony just continues to dig their own grave. Maybe Microsoft knew about the 500 pricing to be just a show and waiting for the 60 gb production to end before announce a price cut. they can go with "we have more games than ever and now even cheaper" line

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: Dacalo
That's some deceptive marketing. Unless they are planning a "real" price drop around the holidays, this is BS. Idiots.

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

Sony...at this rate...it's goign to be 6+ years before the PS3 is going to make it into a price range I find acceptable for what it has to offer.

You had no problem spending $400 on Xbox 360 and $50 for Live, but $500 is so damn expensive that it will take you +6 years? Please be more reasonable.

lol I love how you tacked that $50 on there for Live when it's not even essential to have if you want to just game.

$500 wouldn't be expensive if there were any fscking games for the PS3. the problem is, there are hardly any quality titles for the PS3 that are worth the initial price, UNLESS you are looking for a cheap bluray player.

He has a valid point, and the market is clearly showing that $500 is just too damn much for a video game console.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: herkulease

Originally posted by: purbeast0
Sony's 1st good move - $500 for the 60gb PS3.

Sony's 1st bad move - $600 for a completely new SKU.
Sony's 2nd bad move - Stopping production of the 60gb PS3.

As with most people I thought Sony was making a great move w/the price drop - then I saw the new SKU.

And now this on top of that.

Wow ... Sony really needs to do a lot of firng and rehiring.

actually sony's first bad move is discontinuing the 20 gb model. I had eyed the model as the one I would've gotten eventually.

didn't care for the media card reader or built in wireless. I have PC already and my home is already completely networked. the user upgradeable hard drive made things even easier. wait for newegg or frys to ahve a nice sale on 100gb+ drive.

Sony just continues to dig their own grave. Maybe Microsoft knew about the 500 pricing to be just a show and waiting for the 60 gb production to end before announce a price cut. they can go with "we have more games than ever and now even cheaper" line

Yah I was just talking about of recent times when Sony was finally seeing some light they went and dug the hole even deeper.

 

[Imported]

WTF@Sony. To think I was gonna buy a PS3 in a couple months too.. I just got a 360 recently for Forza2 so I don't exactly have the funds for the PS3 right now.. #&*!

 

[imported_Imp]

Honestly, in the end, I would pay whatever Sony is asking IF they have some more freaking games. Right now, I can think of 2 or 3 titles I'd actually enjoy as opposed to 10 on the Xbox. I can afford the $100 difference, but there's still no point yet. So essentially, whatever the price is, the main problem is still the lack of games.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: Imported
WTF@Sony. To think I was gonna buy a PS3 in a couple months too.. I just got a 360 recently for Forza2 so I don't exactly have the funds for the PS3 right now.. #&*!

Relax, in a couple of months the 80 GB version will be $500. Use the extra 20 GB to keep a couple of hundred CDs worth of music on it.

 

[Queasy]

Heh

Irish bookie Paddy Power has cancelled all bets made on the outcome of the Euro PS3 price cut - refunding your original stake and a giving you a free one of same value, GamesIndustry.biz is reporting.

The site began taking bets earlier this week on just how low the European price of PS3 would go, following news of the American USD 100 chop. But this headline-grabbing novelty bet back-fired after Sony Europe decided to keep the console at GBP 425 and add an extra controller and couple of games instead.

Even though one of the six options available at Paddy Power was to bet the console would be priced between GBP 401 and GBP 425, the firm claims that because there was no reduction, the bet is null and void.

"We can only apologise and maybe we should have made it clearer in the press release," admitted Sharon McHugh, spokesperson for Paddy Power.

"All bets will be void, we'll refund the money and people will get a free Novelty bet for the same amount," she said.

Whoops. How's that for the luck of the Irish? [Fired! - Ed]

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: tw1164
Sony is running out of feet to shoot themselves in, soon it will be their head.

:laugh:

 

[Kromis]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: tw1164
Sony is running out of feet to shoot themselves in, soon it will be their head.

:laugh:

:laugh:

 

[jpeyton]

Well it's official; Sony is burying itself from the top down.

 

[Extelleron]

I really don't think Sony is this stupid... the price drop stimulated demand and the PS3 is finally selling, they're not going to ruin that.

I think that Sony is going to produce enough 60GB consoles so that they are available for about a month after the 80GB model is released, which is supposed to be next month. They'll offer the 60GB for $499 and the 80GB for $599 for that month, and hopefully get a lot of suckers to buy the 80GB model at that price. Then, when the 60GB model is no longer available, they will take away Motorstorm and sell the 80GB model for $499.

I think this is Sony's way of getting rid of the EE+GS chip inside the PS3.... they need to get rid of it to cut costs, and introducing a new SKU without it while getting rid of the old one that has it is the best way. Sony will be able to offer the 80GB console for $499 and it will be even cheaper to produce than the old 60GB model.

This actually makes more sense than the originally $499/599 pricing did. The 80GB model never made sense at all, but now I think I can see the purpose of it. Sony doesn't want to introduce the 80GB as a new, higher-end SKU, they want it to be the standard PS3 console.

 

[Dacalo]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

lol I love how you tacked that $50 on there for Live when it's not even essential to have if you want to just game.

I included it since almost everyone has it and it is an "integral" part of Xbox 360 experience . Still $400 vs $500 difference isn't much if you are willing to spend that much on a luxury item anyways.

$500 wouldn't be expensive if there were any fscking games for the PS3. the problem is, there are hardly any quality titles for the PS3 that are worth the initial price, UNLESS you are looking for a cheap bluray player.

The ***** games you elaborate put will end very soon, as in a month. There are some good games out now, quality games will be trickling in starting from August, far from +6 years. I spent $800 on an Xbox 360 bundle when it was released and all games sucked balls, prompting me to sell the system after 6 months. It wasn't until Dead Rising (Aug 06, 9 months after launch) and Gears (Nov 06, a year after launch) that I started playing my buddies' Xbox 360s.

He has a valid point, and the market is clearly showing that $500 is just too damn much for a video game console.

WTF? The price cut was 4 days ago and I guess the results are in already huh? There are reports that some places are sold out. Hell, Amazon was sold out last night and a co-worker couldn't order one (it's in stock now). The thing is, it's too early to tell, but if signs from retailers are any indication, it contradicts your statement.

 

[Queasy]

SCEA attempts to put the cat back in the bag

SCEA has denied 'inaccurate' reports that its $100 price cut on the 60Gig PS3 is simply a move to clear stock before offering solely the higher priced 80Gig version.

A spokesperson for Sony in the US told Next-Gen, ?"As announced this week, SCEA's product offering in North America consists of a 80GB PS3 available in August at $599 and a 60GB PS3 available now for $499. We have will have ample supplies of both models to meet the needs of our consumers for the foreseeable future."

Officials at Sony Computer entertainment Europe ? including president David Reeves ? had said that the US price would still be $599 because that would be the only model on offer once 60Gig stocks ran out. If true, this would have rendered the $100 price cut a virtually pointless gesture, meaning that PS3 had not been cut in price, but was simply being offered with extra memory and a bundled game.

SCEA has reacted with puzzlement to the European perspective, suggesting that there may have been an incorrect interpretation. The spokesperson said, ?Those quotes [published by a UK-based game industry website] from David Reeves are not accurate. He said that if they had lowered the price in Europe, that territory would have run out of their current inventory by the end of July.?

Previously, a senior PR at Sony in London had backed Reeves statement, confirming that he had been talking about the US market, though the PR later distanced London from the remarks, telling Next-Gen, ?I believe that is the plan, but SCEA has not formally made an announcement on any timeframe. As it affects the US you should confirm with SCEA.??


SCEA subsequently denied the story entirely. However, questions will now be raised about the company's long term plans for the 60Gig version and for its $599 / $499 pricing strategy.

Uhhh...yeah...you pretty much have the President of Sony Computer Entertainment captured on video saying that they are discontinuing the 60GB model.

 

[Extelleron]

Originally posted by: Dacalo

Originally posted by: purbeast0

lol I love how you tacked that $50 on there for Live when it's not even essential to have if you want to just game.

I included it since almost everyone has it and it is an "integral" part of Xbox 360 experience . Still $400 vs $500 difference isn't much if you are willing to spend that much on a luxury item anyways.

$500 wouldn't be expensive if there were any fscking games for the PS3. the problem is, there are hardly any quality titles for the PS3 that are worth the initial price, UNLESS you are looking for a cheap bluray player.

The ***** games you elaborate put will end very soon, as in a month. There are some good games out now, quality games will be trickling in starting from August, far from +6 years. I spent $800 on an Xbox 360 bundle when it was released and all games sucked balls, prompting me to sell the system after 6 months. It wasn't until Dead Rising (Aug 06, 9 months after launch) and Gears (Nov 06, a year after launch) that I started playing my buddies' Xbox 360s.

He has a valid point, and the market is clearly showing that $500 is just too damn much for a video game console.

WTF? The price cut was 4 days ago and I guess the results are in already huh? There are reports that some places are sold out. Hell, Amazon was sold out last night and a co-worker couldn't order one (it's in stock now). The thing is, it's too early to tell, but if signs from retailers are any indication, it contradicts your statement.

Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter and Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (March 2006) weren't good games? They're still two of the best games available on any next-gen system, and they were available for the 360 soon after launch.

The PS3 has Resistance (which is good, but not amazing) and Motorstorm at this point. The problem is most of the games I'm looking forward to are coming in 2008 (MGS4, Killzone 2). There are plenty of good games coming this year, but a lot of them I can play on 360 or PC (UT3, Call of Duty 4).

 

[PricklyPete]

Originally posted by: Dacalo
That's some deceptive marketing. Unless they are planning a "real" price drop around the holidays, this is BS. Idiots.

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

Sony...at this rate...it's goign to be 6+ years before the PS3 is going to make it into a price range I find acceptable for what it has to offer.

You had no problem spending $400 on Xbox 360 and $50 for Live, but $500 is so damn expensive that it will take you +6 years? Please be more reasonable.

The problem is that I already have a next gen machine with the 360...so Sony has to convince me to buy a second one...and they are not doing a very good job at that price point. MS had the advantage of coming out first and now has the advantage of more games. Sony has to do something to overcome that advantage....and they're not doing said thing.

 

[herkulease]

You gotta love corporate denial and claims misquotes.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: PricklyPete
The problem is that I already have a next gen machine with the 360...so Sony has to convince me to buy a second one...and they are not doing a very good job at that price point. MS had the advantage of coming out first and now has the advantage of more games. Sony has to do something to overcome that advantage....and they're not doing said thing.

And they're not doing much to attract the buyers who don't have a 360 yet either. A few weeks ago when I bought my 360, it was a pretty easy decision. There was no compelling reason for me to buy a PS3 instead.

 

[hans030390]

So wait, now we have an article saying "No, this isn't true."

Did Kaz actually say "We're getting rid of the 60gb and sticking with the 80gb at $600" Perhaps he meant eventually (not anytime soon)?

I'm asking...I really don't know. I haven't listened to it, so he might have said exactly what this rumor is all about.

This is all sort of weird, really...I'll wait for an official announcement (not an interview) before I believe it and calling Sony retarded...too many "Yes" and "No" answers to know for sure.

 

[Queasy]

Here is Kaz's exact quote:

"[We do not] have a 2 SKU strategy in the US, we learned very quickly customers respond better to having one SKU than two." (lol, only when the lower-price SKU is crippled beyound all worth)

"We dropped the price on the 60GB model, as you know that model is no longer in production, once it's no longer on store shelves it will just be the $600 SKU."

That sounds like a pretty definitive statement that the 60GB model is done in the US.

 

[yowolabi]

Originally posted by: Extelleron
I really don't think Sony is this stupid... the price drop stimulated demand and the PS3 is finally selling, they're not going to ruin that.

I think that Sony is going to produce enough 60GB consoles so that they are available for about a month after the 80GB model is released, which is supposed to be next month. They'll offer the 60GB for $499 and the 80GB for $599 for that month, and hopefully get a lot of suckers to buy the 80GB model at that price. Then, when the 60GB model is no longer available, they will take away Motorstorm and sell the 80GB model for $499.

I think this is Sony's way of getting rid of the EE+GS chip inside the PS3.... they need to get rid of it to cut costs, and introducing a new SKU without it while getting rid of the old one that has it is the best way. Sony will be able to offer the 80GB console for $499 and it will be even cheaper to produce than the old 60GB model.

This actually makes more sense than the originally $499/599 pricing did. The 80GB model never made sense at all, but now I think I can see the purpose of it. Sony doesn't want to introduce the 80GB as a new, higher-end SKU, they want it to be the standard PS3 console.

This makes the most sense and what I would bet on. I had previously heard that 80gb drives are as cheap or cheaper than 60gb ones, and sony would likely be switching to them. Also like you said, the 599 system didn't make sense with a game, 20gb extra, and the EE chip removed. If it's going to be their main system from on, it all does make sense. This one will definitely be cheaper to produce than their other one, yet by the time they are done they'll have you believing it's a value.

 

[ElFenix]

this spin control by sony sounds exactly the same as it did when they were trying to claim the 20GB version wasn't going bye bye after they said it would.

you'd think that after the uproar about getting rid of the 20GB version they'd have learned.

 

[draggoon01]

Originally posted by: PricklyPete
This sounds about right.

1) Drop the price to $500 so that we have a sku at that price point again which will get us more sales for a couple months.
2) Introduce a more expensive sku that actually is cheaper to make since it has less hardware in it (PS2 chip).
3) After sales surge...let $500 sku go away (again)
4) With more PS3's out there...developers will feel better about releasing/working on games to the platform. More games will be out at Christmas
5) Only $600 sku at Christmas when more games are available and people like wasting money.
6) Drop price again to $500 in the spring with lots of news and fanfare and another sales surge because suddenly getting all of that for $500 is such a good deal...

Sony...at this rate...it's goign to be 6+ years before the PS3 is going to make it into a price range I find acceptable for what it has to offer.

what are you talking about?????

in 6 years that'll be a $600 price drop and you'll get a 200gb $500 system!!!!!! people would be fools not to buy such a deal.

think about it. the system launched for $600 and you'll get a $600 price drop. it's basically free after you pay $500 !!!!! free you hear me, free!!!!

and if you don't believe in the freedom sony will give you then you must be a terrorist

 

[lupi]

So the final story looks to be the $100 drop is immaterial as its on a to be clearance out product line and the old price point will still exist...with a 20gb increase.

Yeah, nothing wrong at Sony HQ. If this does go as bad as it sounds, and MS does cut its price structure...

 

[FP]

So, would most folks buy the 60GB version now with the EE engine or just wait it out until the 80GB one drops?