So you are extrapolating observations from a crap job at a local lounge to the entire population despite the obviously biased sample group and tiny sample size? In other words... they didn't pay attention in grade school and you didn't pay attention in high school?
NikolaeVarius
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I always cry in my math class when my Classmates need a calculator for EVERYTHING. Simple Quadratics, Calculator, Simple Trig Functions, Calculator. 30+30, double check on the Calculator.
Aikouka
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- Nov 27, 2001
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I actually can't do those multiplications straight forward and I'm considered quite good at math. I actually have to use a different set of numbers that I know. For example, I know 8 squared so I can just remove 8 and get 8*7. Technically, multiplication is just multiple additions so I'm just simplifying it by memorization and subtraction
. I did 9*6 because I know 9*5 and I simply added 9 . Although I don't necessarily think this is bad. Multiplication is what we'd consider building upon the basics of math (being addition in this case). To learn to multiply is to learn to apply addition to another concept and we end up memorizing tables (which counts as learning it, but that's memorizing, not learning). Anyone remember having to memorize their "Times Tables" in 3rd grade (or whatever grade as 3rd was which I did it in).Although I am quite good at change and can break apart into the proper coinage quickly.
EDIT:
I use my phone to do it too
. I could do all of the multiplication in my head or do the 10% of your bill + half of that number. But yet again, I have a problem remembering things like that and I tend to round up my tip so it makes the bill even (say a 16.51 bill would turn into a 18.98 bill when you add the tip. Well, I don't like such odd numbers, so I'd make it 20.00).If you the subtraction was something like 1004500 - 97894 = ??. where you have to carry all those 1s and whatnot, then I would need a calculator or pencil/paper. After going through calculus, diff equations, linear algebra and those high level mathematics, simple arithmetic becomes a nuisance.
All reminds me of the Simpsons episode:
Alright class, who's calculator can tell me what 4 times 2 is?
Ooh, ohh, low battery!
Alright class, who's calculator can tell me what 4 times 2 is?
Ooh, ohh, low battery!
Still, if you can't do that in your head then something is wrong. At first glance I would say, 106 + 2000 + 4500 +900,000 is the answer.
Safeway
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- Jun 22, 2004
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Yea, exactly. Stupid pharmacists that do the math in their head end up making mistakes. A good pharmacist (and a safe pharmacist) will always use a calculator. The calculators that print on a spool of paper are best, so you can check it.
Better safe than sorry, right?
My guess is that it's a mix of relying on calculators too often in high school/college math classes (hell, even the teachers nowadays will often tell you that you don't need to know how to do most things by hand) and perhaps being nervous/feeling pressured because they're giving change to someone with a line of people behind him/her.
I've gotten into trouble sometimes when thinking I'm helping them out. Like the amount is $4.83 and I'll hand the person $5.08, the person just stands there with the dumbest look. I don't do that anymore.
So can I for certain classes of meds.
LOL this math thing is bad enough, but it doesn't really surprise me. Most peers of mine (young 20s mostly in college) who aren't in a science or technical (aka involve math) major can't do much outside of very basic algebra, if that. Though they can do basic addition and subtraction without a calculator like counting change, and really they don't need much past that for a field that just doesn't use it.
But what really strikes me as ****ed is the analog clock deal. In like 5th or 6th grade, this one kid who I was friends with at the time, wasn't really the best in school (in fact probably got the lowest or in the top 3 lowest grades on every assignment) but not brain dead or anything, couldn't tell time on an analog and I thought that was extremely rare. I remember finding out cause we had to sign out to go to the bathroom, so he goes to put his name down, looks up at the clock for a few seconds like durrrr, asks me the time, I tell him. He comes back a few minutes later, this time must've not wanted to ask me the time or whatever, so he looks at the clock again, writes the time down. I look at the bathroom signout sheet... his return time which should've just been like +3 minutes to his leave time, was totally ****ed like 6 hours and 32 minutes or whatever earlier. LOL
A lot of kids just don't care and pay attention early on, so are screwed once middle and high school start, which by then know they are and give up. Maybe they teach things differently now, but I didn't see anything terribly wrong with public school. I admit I'm not the best at math without a calculator but I can do most common things without one.
destrekor
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- Nov 18, 2005
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this makes perfect sense to me.
she has a mind for pure memorization. Detail. She may or may not have a photographic mind. That's unrelated though. She is the embodiment of a typical female: great memorization, but likely low arithmetic skills. This seems to be the norm, but the amount of testosterone in a female shapes her mind too. (this NatGeo special talked about testosterone in a female, how it's normally 1/7th a man's levels).
destrekor
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- Nov 18, 2005
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you can memorize how to do them in the calculator ya know.
And you can also use programs on the calculator that basically do everything for you with given numbers. But maybe she knows the proper formulas and conversions but can't do the math by hand? That'd be something.you can climb off your high horse buddy boy if you read the whole op the last line states:
please assure me this is an isolated incident.
now please go fuck yourself.
thecoolnessrune
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- Jun 8, 2005
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Icy, you should know in your line of work that if you work with trash... You're really only gonna see trash
But you take statistics on the dregs of society, and apply it to society as a whole?
I can't put it any more simply than this: Are you frikken stupid man?
But you take statistics on the dregs of society, and apply it to society as a whole?
I can't put it any more simply than this: Are you frikken stupid man?
So either you posted something knowing it is complete horse shit just to incite a misogynistic thread or you paid no attention in high school during statistics classes and actually believe your extrapolation has even the slightest bit of validity. Which is it?
Based on your posts, I'd say the reason why there are such unintelligent women working the same place as you are is pretty obvious.... an intelligent woman would find another job.
Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
Icy, you should know in your line of work that if you work with trash... You're really only gonna see trash
But you take statistics on the dregs of society, and apply it to society as a whole?
I can't put it any more simply than this: Are you frikken stupid man?
read the op. I was asking if this was an isolated incident and from the responses. It is not.
just ride your horse into the sunset its obvious you haven't read the thread.
waitresses and hostesses are very common jobs for girls 18-21 who need something part time while in school. giddy up.
Most Americans can't do math. The government can't balance the budget, people buy stuffs they can't afford.
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