How do you know it isn't ?
And there is something that strikes me as illogical that at the same time piracy or movies and music is going on that an argument is made that the product isn't any good. If that was true nobody would pirate it, would they ?
A large part of my school's A/V lab teaching involves anti-piracy techniques. We use the current examples as ways NOT to do things - because it infringes on the fair use of the media (The students learn this VERY quickly - having to be taught how to jump through hoops to rip movie clips from a DVD, inserting a music CD to add some music to a project only to have it lock the system hard when the editing software tries to rip it, etc.). The anti piracy techniques that ARE taught essentially amount to "Don't make somthing that nobody fvcking cares about - be original and creative, and make it look damn good, and they will come."
THAT is how copy protection should be executed, with skill and originality, not with lame technology that cripples your work.
All DVDs produced in class must be regionless, and unprotected, or they will be given a failing grade.
THAT is how copy protection should be executed, with skill and originality, not with lame technology that cripples your work.
All DVDs produced in class must be regionless, and unprotected, or they will be given a failing grade.
Damn straight about theaters in the USA. When I was in college, I downloaded the vcds I wanted to see and was able to kick back with friends, beers, and put my feet up on the desk. Being able to watch a new movie while having a beer is simple, yet so enjoyable. We could be loud, pause for restroom breaks/food runs, and we certainly didn't have to bow to the movie theater rules or showing times. $5/stream would be well worth it... it's not exactly easy or hassle-free to get movies or keep a collection.
I'm not saying it definitely isn't, or that piracy hasn't and doesn't partially contribute to the RIAA/MPAA's figures of decreasing sales/revenues. However when it is passed off as the chief and sole cause of their declination, one can't help but be skeptical...
0roo0roo
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are the itunes sales sustained? and what % of the music industry sales are they? small % i bet. most people do like to go to the theater, which is why so many are still being built. i don't know what area you live in, but people are generally ok where i go, and the theatres don't suck at all. unless you have millions to setup a giant home theater and buy film reels, you can't have that experience at home.
actually, there are 3 theatres within 10 minutes from my house, all of which are 5 years old or less. Two of them are Century Theatres and one is a Brenden complex. I'm just the type of person that doesn't like sitting in a crowded area. If I go to the theatre, I'd like to go at a time when there's no one there so I could enjoy the movie in peace. I don't need people laughing or screaming to get me into the movie.
And the only movies I think are worth watching in theatres are action movies/suspense ones where you need the big screen and audio actually matters. At the same time I have no problem sitting on my computer with my Cambridge Soundwork speakers on a 17 inch CRT monitor watching the latest movie. I do agree that a lot of people enjoy the movie theatres, just not me.
ViRGE
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Ask and ye shall recieve: the torrent link.Originally posted by: DaWhim
Originally posted by: Luagsch
where can i download this episode of 60 minutes?
I need this too!
PS 0roo0roo, sustained sales for the iTMS was >500K/week, and this was before the launch of the PC version
PPS Mods, I assume already-aired TV show torrents are OK?
LMAO, was primary ment as a sarcatist comment, but thnx. dloading nowOriginally posted by: ViRGE
Ask and ye shall recieve: the torrent link.Originally posted by: DaWhim
Originally posted by: Luagsch
where can i download this episode of 60 minutes?
I need this too!
PS 0roo0roo, sustained sales for the iTMS was >500K/week, and this was before the launch of the PC version
PPS Mods, I assume already-aired TV show torrents are OK?
just watched it...
LOL
ahahahahahahahahahahhahaha
very entertaining. I had a blast having 60 minutes tell ME how new sharing movies were and how it got there in the first place. These people are idiots, they should've hired an internet geek to put that segment together.
LOL
ahahahahahahahahahahhahaha
very entertaining. I had a blast having 60 minutes tell ME how new sharing movies were and how it got there in the first place. These people are idiots, they should've hired an internet geek to put that segment together.
I love watching movies. But I refuse to pay $12 dollars for a movie every single time.
Take the Hot Chick for instance. It's actually a pretty funny movie. But it's no where near worth the $12 dollars they expect us to pay to see it. They raise prices every year. That's why I refuse to go to as many movies as I'd like to. It's usually only about 5 movies a year that are worth the price to go to. Maybe Hollywood should start putting out decent movies instead of things like Gigli and then we'll come back to the theatres.
I'm all for the streaming. I'd be willing to pay $5 dollars a movie to watch it in the comfort of my own home. No distractions or stupid people walking around. It would be great
Take the Hot Chick for instance. It's actually a pretty funny movie. But it's no where near worth the $12 dollars they expect us to pay to see it. They raise prices every year. That's why I refuse to go to as many movies as I'd like to. It's usually only about 5 movies a year that are worth the price to go to. Maybe Hollywood should start putting out decent movies instead of things like Gigli and then we'll come back to the theatres.
I'm all for the streaming. I'd be willing to pay $5 dollars a movie to watch it in the comfort of my own home. No distractions or stupid people walking around. It would be great
What kind of dreamworld are you guys living in? Hahaha! $5 for a streamed movie? You bet your ass that won't happen! Unless we're talking about 20 year old movies. Think about it. $5 and my whole apartment complex can watch the movie, if I see fit. Ahh. But that's not the only flaw. Have you actually looked at streamed movies? The average DSL/Cable line can't have a DVD quality film streamed to it. I think for decent quality you'd need a few megabits (5ish?) downstream in order to have a really good quality movie, especially if we are talking about a lot of action. (I'm a graphics whore, so you better damn-well bet I want a good quality video. A matter of fact, I would want the same quality that that $5 would buy me at the movie theatre. Not to mention that we already figured that $5 wouldn't be the selling point for a streamed video.
Btw - Are you living in the fvcking Hamptons? $12 to see a movie?
its not really illogical........the question is ...is it worth it to pay 15-20 bucks for a cd or 10 bucks for a movie when 1 out of 10 of movies are good (or less) and very very few cds have an entire tracklist that you like
(i used to work at a movie theater and could watch as many movies as i wanted for free there and i would watch alot of movies i would never see if i had to pay for them.....same sort of principle....and the majority of the movies hitting the theaters sucked......)
cd up to 74 minutes of audio its 15-20 bucks <---this is way over priced
dvd 2 hours or more of video/audio and special features.... 20 bucks
plus some people will download somethings that they would NEVER buy in the store....b/c buying a cd means you pay the X dollars for all the songs without hearing them first.....and alot of people just don't like that idea
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
the arguement comes down to.. you can't beat free
I think his argument is that for most of the less than average movies, people won't end up paying to see it in theater if there were no download available. I for one won't be paying for legally blond 2 in theatre, but if it's convenient to download I'll spare the time to see if it's anything good.
0roo0roo
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Originally posted by: benliong
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
the arguement comes down to.. you can't beat free
I think his argument is that for most of the less than average movies, people won't end up paying to see it in theater if there were no download available. I for one won't be paying for legally blond 2 in theatre, but if it's convenient to download I'll spare the time to see if it's anything good.
i still have doubts, those marginal movies that certain people only sorta want to see can never be priced low enough. people would expect it for almost nothing, as its competing against free. you see people complaining about 99cents downloads from itunes already.
and i just don't get people complaining about the industry only putting out bad movies. the industry is in it to make money. if you don't support good movies and instead pirate then, they aren't going to make as many of those. esp considering those are the movies that benifit most from dvds. you don't see films like requiem like a dream breaking box office records, people just don't go. they go for films like the run down. its not the industrys fault they don't want to lose money.
all that being said, it doesn't matter how much you disagree with the industry, your entitled to their product.
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