6 Good Reasons a Black Person Might Resist Arrest

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Oldgamer

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Here are more statistics and data that back up a lot of the claims of this article:

Exactly How Often Do Police Shoot Unarmed Black Men?

Quote from article: Previous attempts to analyze racial bias in police shootings have arrived at similar conclusions. In 2007, ColorLines and the Chicago Reporter investigated fatal police shootings in 10 major cities, and found that there were a disproportionately high number of African Americans among police shooting victims in every one, particularly in New York, San Diego, and Las Vegas.
 

glenn1

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If the OP continues to suggest blacks resist arrest maybe we can further increase the depolicing trend and turn their neighborhoods into completely lawless zones.
 

nehalem256

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Would you be that way if as a black man your being hit with a nightstick with no provocation on your part, or having your arm twisted to the point of almost breaking, or having your head slammed without provocation? I doubt you would be as cooperative if these things were happening.

Do you think resisting arrest is going to make them stop hitting you with the nightstick?:rolleyes:
 

HTFOff

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Here are more statistics and data that back up a lot of the claims of this article:

Exactly How Often Do Police Shoot Unarmed Black Men?

Quote from article: Previous attempts to analyze racial bias in police shootings have arrived at similar conclusions. In 2007, ColorLines and the Chicago Reporter investigated fatal police shootings in 10 major cities, and found that there were a disproportionately high number of African Americans among police shooting victims in every one, particularly in New York, San Diego, and Las Vegas.

More motherjones, yay. :awe:

We get it. You think statistics are racist. Details be damned. Personal responsibilities be damned. There HAS to be some ulterior motives at play, right?

Right.
 

ivwshane

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Yeah, Hadiya Pendleton wasn't killed in truly violent crime. It was just mildly violent.

How many people are killed per year by gangs?

How many high profile gang killings do you read about on the national news?

The reason I specifically used the words I did was because crimes that get national attention are more likely to influence ones unconscious feelings.
 

ivwshane

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1 good reason why black people need to get their shit together.

http://heyjackass.com/

Cry about 4 people getting shot by the cops, ignore hundreds getting killed by other black people.

So what you are saying is that well disciplined cops are no better than gang members?

If you aren't saying that then your argument is a red herring. The black community is well aware of the issue of black on black crime.
 

Londo_Jowo

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More should listen to this pastor.

http://newsninja2012.com/johnathan-gentry-on-change-in-the-black-community/

Can you explain to me how looting helps anyone? Destroying your own community? Robbing local businesses? You call that fighting back against the police? Come on, give me a break, the only people getting hurt are the victims of the looting. Can anyone tell me how breaking into the community’s small businesses, burning them, destroying them, or stealing sneakers is helping anyone? Besides the thieves that will probably sell them on eBay, or just wear the new kicks?

There is no way anyone can justify what I saw in some of those video clips. I saw people leaving stores with dozens of items. I really, really, really doubt that they were thinking of anyone but themselves at that point. It was simply disgusting. They won’t gain an ally in someone like me, by doing that. My point is, that robbing small businesses is not the answer. I can’t believe that some people are making the case that this behavior is acceptable. Would you be OK if this was your mother’s shop being looted? Get out of town, I’m not buying it for one minute! Neither is Johnathan Gentry
 

LaserBlast

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According to the officer, Michael Brown wasn't resisting arrest, he was assaulting a police officer and possibly attempting to murder him.
 

Svnla

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So this why so many blacks killing each other, right OP? Funny how not a beep from anyone, no marching, no protesting, no yelling, no raging, no anger, nothing, nada, zip. Just another day, another black killing black. Why the silent?

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/interrupters/


Care to comment or will you run away after pulling out the race card?


1) The idea that "if you didn't do anything wrong, you don't have anything to fear" does not hold true for black people. Most people who end up being exonerated for crimes they served time for, but didn't commit, are people of color.

Then do tell us why Asians have a much lower rate of people in prisons? Must be because they are whites and not a minority group, right? <sarcastic>
 
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her209

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This guy almost ended up getting shot by the police.

http://publicradioeast.org/post/after-traffic-stop-teen-was-almost-another-dead-black-male

Alex Landau, who is African-American, was adopted by a white couple as a child and grew up in largely white, middle-class suburbs of Denver.

Still, "we never talked about race growing up," Landau tells his mother, Patsy Hathaway, on a visit to StoryCorps. "I just don't think that was ever a conversation."

"I thought that love would conquer all and skin color really didn't matter," Hathaway says. "I had to learn the really hard way when they almost killed you."

That was in 2009, when Landau, then a college student, was stopped by Denver police officers and severely beaten.

Landau was 19 at the time, driving around Denver with a friend in the passenger seat. He noticed red and blue lights behind him. The officer who pulled him over "explained I had made an illegal left turn, and to step out of the car," Landau says.

"So I get out of the car first," he says. "And then he goes around to the passenger side and pulls my friend Addison out of the car. ... Addison is white, and he had some weed in his coat pocket. So he gets placed in handcuffs."

Landau thought he was safe. He wasn't in handcuffs, he says, and he'd already been patted down. "Plus there's three officers on the scene. And I had never had a negative interaction with police in my life.

"So I ask them, 'Can I please see a warrant before you continue the search?' " Landau says. "And they grab me and began to hit me in the face. I could hear Addison in the background yelling, 'Stop! Leave him alone.'

"I was hit several times, and I remember gasping for air" and spitting blood, he says.

"And then I hear an officer shout out, 'He's reaching for a gun,' " he tells his mother. "I immediately started yelling, 'No, I'm not. I'm not reaching for anything.' "

Landau felt a gun against his head, he says. "And I expected to be shot. And at that point I lost consciousness. ...

"It took 45 stitches to close up the lacerations in my face alone," Landau says.

Hathaway was teaching a second-grade glass when she got a call about Landau. "All she said was, 'You'd better come see about your son.' She didn't say anything about what kind of shape you were in," she says.

All she remembers from the moment she saw Landau, she says, "is involuntarily screaming."

Her reaction brought Alex to tears, too. "And it wasn't my injuries that hurt," he says. "It was just seeing how it devastated you. ... For me, it was the point of awakening to how the rest of the world is going to look at you. I was just another black face in the streets, and I was almost another dead black male."

In 2011, Alex was awarded a $795,000 settlement by the City of Denver. Two of the police officers involved have since been fired for uses of excessive force not related to this incident.
 

Attic

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In the USA there is prejudice against the non privileged, and prejudice against race.

If I were raising a black family and was not upper middle class (afford private schools and the nicer neighborhoods) I would try and leave the country to be honest. Why subject your kids to this crap? It's a mindfuck for the black youth, understandable to me to see resistance against the system, and to see it spill over at explosive times where young black men are killed by the law.

But come on, if here in the states, resisting arrest if you are young and black is a very bad thing to do. I do not see any good reason to do so, the deck is stacked and it gets worse if you make the wrong choices.

You give attitude to to cops, they react with a very handed approach (this is not race selective, it can be privelage selective).
 
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Sonikku

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At least four black men were killed by police in the past month, via chokehold, tasing, and shootings, after being confronted for reasons ranging from selling untaxed cigarettes to picking up a BB gun off a shelf in Wal-Mart.

Maybe if they wouldn't try to steal bb guns from stores or sell things illegally the police wouldn't bother them so much.
 

LegendKiller

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Are you saying black people deserve more blame?

Are you saying they are not to blame for their own woes when a lot of times they put themselves in these situations?

Black people are FOURTEEN times more likely to commit a murder. Almost half of homicides are caused by blacks yet they comprise only 18.4% of the population. 73% of black kids are born out of wedlock, compared to 29% for whites and 17% for Asians. Black children don't do as well in school. Many will blame that on poor funding, yet I believe the underlying factor is the 2nd statistic there, that parents are disengaged or not even there. Having a father figure is essential for long-term success, numerous studies have shown that. Studies have shown that the lack of a father figure then results in higher gang involvement, and ostracizing those who don't participate. This then perpetuates the problem.

A very good friend of mine from college is a successful black white-collar worker who graduated from a top university. I was able to help him get a job at my Fortune 50 company a decade ago. He went home one time to see his half-sister who then told him he dressed "too white". He was just a professional worker and preferred those clothes, yet he was treated as a leper.


What are these people doing? Where are the riots for Hadiya? Instead of refusing to accept the status quo of endless gang violence and lack of personal responsibility and use Hadiya as a rallying cry, they instead cling to this victimization idolized by "kids" who aren't even that great of people. Hadiya was an innocent, Trayvon and Brown weren't. Why didn't they riot when a black killed a black? Maybe it's because they would rather have a scapegoat than look internally.

They should be calling Bill Cosby to the area and getting rid of known race-baiter Al Sharpton.
 

LegendKiller

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In the USA there is prejudice against the non privileged, and prejudice against race.

If I were raising a black family and was not upper middle class (afford private schools and the nicer neighborhoods) I would try and leave the country to be honest. Why subject your kids to this crap? It's a mindfuck for the black youth, understandable to me to see resistance against the system, and to see it spill over at explosive times where young black men are killed by the law.

But come on, if here in the states, resisting arrest if you are young and black is a very bad thing to do. I do not see any good reason to do so, the deck is stacked and it gets worse if you make the wrong choices.

You give attitude to to cops, they react with a very handed approach (this is not race selective, it can be privelage selective).

If I were raising a young black kid in this country I would move them to an area away from gangs, away from people who don't care how their kids do in school or where the bulk of kids are born out of wedlock.

Those kids, overall, do just fine.
 

LegendKiller

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So what you are saying is that well disciplined cops are no better than gang members?

If you aren't saying that then your argument is a red herring. The black community is well aware of the issue of black on black crime.

No, I am saying that it seems like a lot of black people only care about when a white person kills a black person but are utterly silent at the hundreds, if not thousands, of black people killed by other black people per year.

If they were "well aware" of it, they'd stop it, rather than just calling those who try to stop it "snitches".


This guy says it well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBkk4WlCJAY

Booker T Washington said it well also...a long time ago

"There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs. There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don't want the patient to get well."
 

Svnla

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Are you saying they are not to blame for their own woes when a lot of times they put themselves in these situations?

Black people are FOURTEEN times more likely to commit a murder. Almost half of homicides are caused by blacks yet they comprise only 18.4% of the population. 73% of black kids are born out of wedlock, compared to 29% for whites and 17% for Asians. Black children don't do as well in school. Many will blame that on poor funding, yet I believe the underlying factor is the 2nd statistic there, that parents are disengaged or not even there. Having a father figure is essential for long-term success, numerous studies have shown that. Studies have shown that the lack of a father figure then results in higher gang involvement, and ostracizing those who don't participate. This then perpetuates the problem.

A very good friend of mine from college is a successful black white-collar worker who graduated from a top university. I was able to help him get a job at my Fortune 50 company a decade ago. He went home one time to see his half-sister who then told him he dressed "too white". He was just a professional worker and preferred those clothes, yet he was treated as a leper.


What are these people doing? Where are the riots for Hadiya? Instead of refusing to accept the status quo of endless gang violence and lack of personal responsibility and use Hadiya as a rallying cry, they instead cling to this victimization idolized by "kids" who aren't even that great of people. Hadiya was an innocent, Trayvon and Brown weren't. Why didn't they riot when a black killed a black? Maybe it's because they would rather have a scapegoat than look internally.

They should be calling Bill Cosby to the area and getting rid of known race-baiter Al Sharpton.

I agree with most of your post except the underlined/bolded. Black population in US is about 13.2%. I think your number is more than likely about Hispanics (currently the largest minority group <and growing fast> in the US).

Source = http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

About your friend, I had a black female friend in college. She came from poor background, lived in government housing and all that but she tried very hard to break the poverty cycle. She went to college and tried very hard to finish it, she did not get knock up, she spoke properly and never blamed whiteys/da man/system/<fill in the blank excuses> for any of her problems/issues.

Last time I checked, she was a successful programmer at a large utility company. Talk about a sold out/uncle tom/not keep it real/acting white black chick <sarcastic>
 
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LegendKiller

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I agree with most of your post except the underlined/bolded. Black population in US is about 13.2%. I think your number is more than likely about Hispanics (currently the largest minority group <and growing fast> in the US).

Source = http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

When I typed it into google it came up with a projection at the top of the page which I didn't read as a projection, just thought that was it. My mistake, should have read the description a bit better.
 

Attic

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Black on black crime is different than officers killing black kids.

The black community (it's more than just the black community) unrest over cop killing a youth is understandably louder than violent crime without the law (black on black). Very separate issues from what I see.
 

LegendKiller

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Black on black crime is different than officers killing black kids.

The black community (it's more than just the black community) unrest over cop killing a youth is understandably louder than violent crime without the law (black on black). Very separate issues from what I see.

Ok, so one death is more justifiable than another death, got it. I am sure Hadiya takes comfort in the fact that she, and hundreds of other innocents, die every year and nobody gives a shit because they can't wrap them up in some faux righteous indignation over a thug, who assaulted an officer, getting killed by said officer.

This is why you guys are so fucking full of fail. You are so willing to excuse this bullshit in the name of PC stupidity. You are, more than racists, are the cause of the problems because you refuse to just acknowledge the actual problems, highlight them, and demand accountability.
 

her209

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Black on black crime is different than officers killing black kids.

The black community (it's more than just the black community) unrest over cop killing a youth is understandably louder than violent crime without the law (black on black). Very separate issues from what I see.

Frankly, I don't see how "black on black violence" has any bearing to this shooting other than to serve as FUD. You don't see people bring up "white on white violence" or any other race and trying to excusing killing of said victim by cops.
 

LegendKiller

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Frankly, I don't see how "black on black violence" has any bearing to this shooting other than to serve as FUD. You don't see people bring up "white on white violence" or any other race and trying to excusing killing of said victim by cops.

It matters to point out the utter stupidity of these people screaming for "justice" when they don't even know what happened, automatically think the thug is the victim, and then don't give a shit about "justice" for anybody else that gets killed by a culture some of them support or refuse to get rid of.

Then they double down on the hypocrisy to demand "justice" yet deny it to innocent people by looting or burning or causing mayhem. How many of those "justice" seekers will get turned in by their community? Most likely none. But hey, they want "justice", right?
 
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