6 Gigabytes of DDR2

[13Gigatons]

I see Best Buy selling HP's with 6 gigabytes of memory and Vista 64 bit, makes wonder what the point of Windows 7 32 bit will be?

6gigabytes

 

[ForumMaster]

so Microsoft can make money?

 

[Shawn]

for people who are stuck in the past

 

[ViRGE]

I'm more puzzled by the 6GB thing. Surely it would be easier for HP to just use 8GB (4x2GB) than 6GB (2x2GB + 2x1GB).

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: Shawn
for people who are stuck in the past

not sure I'd want to upgrade to Windows 7 considering if my system wasn't capable running 64bit there's a good chance it shouldn't be running Windows 7 regardless of that capability (or lack thereof)...

but I guess it takes all kinds...if Microsoft thinks they can make money doing it then it makes sense

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: ViRGE
I'm more puzzled by the 6GB thing. Surely it would be easier for HP to just use 8GB (4x2GB) than 6GB (2x2GB + 2x1GB).

why would it be easier? there's a good chance they're just using up supply...

also its a natural doubled upgrade from all the 3GB 32bit systems that exist (which does make more sense due to the obvious limitation) so that could be a possible explanation to the otherwise odd number

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: ViRGE
I'm more puzzled by the 6GB thing. Surely it would be easier for HP to just use 8GB (4x2GB) than 6GB (2x2GB + 2x1GB).

why would it be easier? there's a good chance they're just using up supply...

also its a natural doubled upgrade from all the 3GB 32bit systems that exist (which does make more sense due to the obvious limitation) so that could be a possible explanation to the otherwise odd number

Well you're mixing and matching 2 different DIMMs. With an odd-power of memory, when a DIMM goes bad you (HP) suddenly has to determine of it's the 1GB or 2GB DIMM and replace it accordingly. 4 of the same part is going to be easier to deal with. It's entirely possible that you're right however and what they're doing is eating up their 1GB DIMM supply.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

yeah I suppose, but I somehow doubt they really have to worry about memory going bad to the extent that it just makes more sense to go ahead and use what they have...wasn't it HP that was basically giving away 1GB sticks of DDR2 with insane rebate deals?

 

[13Gigatons]

Still kind of surprising that machines at Best Buy are coming with 6 GB...or maybe that's what it really takes to run Vista well.

So I'm thinking when Windows 7 rolls out in 2010 the majority will buy a 64 bit edition.

 

[HannibalX]

It's just marketing. People see one machine for $900 that has 2 GB but this machine for $1,050 has 6 GB. HP is paying something like $5/GB so what do they care? Load the thing up and mark the unit up $150.

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: Pale Rider
It's just marketing. People see one machine for $900 that has 2 GB but this machine for $1,050 has 6 GB. HP is paying something like $5/GB so what do they care? Load the thing up and mark the unit up $150.

This man speaks the truth.

 

[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: ViRGE
I'm more puzzled by the 6GB thing. Surely it would be easier for HP to just use 8GB (4x2GB) than 6GB (2x2GB + 2x1GB).

why would it be easier? there's a good chance they're just using up supply...

also its a natural doubled upgrade from all the 3GB 32bit systems that exist (which does make more sense due to the obvious limitation) so that could be a possible explanation to the otherwise odd number

Well you're mixing and matching 2 different DIMMs. With an odd-power of memory, when a DIMM goes bad you (HP) suddenly has to determine of it's the 1GB or 2GB DIMM and replace it accordingly. 4 of the same part is going to be easier to deal with. It's entirely possible that you're right however and what they're doing is eating up their 1GB DIMM supply.

Or they can by the same 2GB DIMM's in bulk so they just put 3 2GB DIMM's inside.

 

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[HannibalX]

Originally posted by: TruePaige
Or they can by the same 2GB DIMM's in bulk so they just put 3 2GB DIMM's inside.

Yes. I have seen the insides of thousands of HP business class PCs. They don't care about paring memory or miss-matching speeds. They will put in what the customer orders or what they have in inventory.

 

[HannibalX]

Originally posted by: Section8

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[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: Pale Rider

Originally posted by: TruePaige
Or they can by the same 2GB DIMM's in bulk so they just put 3 2GB DIMM's inside.

Yes. I have seen the insides of thousands of HP business class PCs. They don't care about paring memory or miss-matching speeds. They will put in what the customer orders or what they have in inventory.

Indeed. Anything to save a buck, so don't think they are going to optimize your RAM for you in any way.

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: Pale Rider

Originally posted by: TruePaige
Or they can by the same 2GB DIMM's in bulk so they just put 3 2GB DIMM's inside.

Yes. I have seen the insides of thousands of HP business class PCs. They don't care about paring memory or miss-matching speeds. They will put in what the customer orders or what they have in inventory.

Indeed. Anything to save a buck, so don't think they are going to optimize your RAM for you in any way.

But the Geek Squad guy told me he can maximize my harddrive performance by a complex operation called defragmenting, which cost around $200. You should get it!

 

[Aikouka]

Sounds a bit extreme. I'm happy with my main machine having 4GB of RAM (pretty necessary when you play 2 WoWs at once on Vista... each uses 500-600MB of RAM).

 

[Shawn]

Originally posted by: 13Gigatons
Still kind of surprising that machines at Best Buy are coming with 6 GB...or maybe that's what it really takes to run Vista well.

So I'm thinking when Windows 7 rolls out in 2010 the majority will buy a 64 bit edition.

Vista will run fine with 2 gigs of ram. I have 4 and have never used all of it. Even with 40 Firefox tabs open I've only used about 2.7 gigs.

 

[mooseracing]

Originally posted by: Shawn


Vista will run fine with 2 gigs of ram. I have 4 and have never used all of it. Even with 40 Firefox tabs open I've only used about 2.7 gigs.

The tab amount means nothing, you can have open all text pages with no flash, shockwave or moving ads. I can run about 20 -30 tabs and be burning up 1.5 GBs just to the browser itself.


Is 4GB really the limit for an OS, if so how come Server 03 32 bit, anything but the basic version, recognizes (and possibly uses) more than that. Or how Vista 32 can handle more?

But I've been running 64bit since XP 64 came out so I could care less.

 

[13Gigatons]

Originally posted by: mooseracing

Originally posted by: Shawn


Vista will run fine with 2 gigs of ram. I have 4 and have never used all of it. Even with 40 Firefox tabs open I've only used about 2.7 gigs.

The tab amount means nothing, you can have open all text pages with no flash, shockwave or moving ads. I can run about 20 -30 tabs and be burning up 1.5 GBs just to the browser itself.


Is 4GB really the limit for an OS, if so how come Server 03 32 bit, anything but the basic version, recognizes (and possibly uses) more than that. Or how Vista 32 can handle more?

But I've been running 64bit since XP 64 came out so I could care less.

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