6 core mainstream Haswell?

[ShintaiDK]

You just prooved how greedy intel is, they disable HT on the I5's which costs MORE than leaving it alone and sell the I7's for 100$+ more for a "feature" that is inherent to the design from the get-go.

Greedy because you think you are entitled to a super cheap hexcore?

 

[Magic Carpet]

Greedy because you think you are entitled to a super cheap hexcore?

People want more, for less, always! Insatiable beasts

 

[lopri]

Lets try it from a different angle.

People on the desktop/laptop wanting hexcores can be counted in the 100Ks. People wanting dual or quadcores in the 100Ms.

Greedy because you think you are entitled to a super cheap hexcore?

Typical bait'n switch operation.

 

[ShintaiDK]

People want more, for less, always! Insatiable beasts

They already get more, its just not materialized as extra cores.

 

[Magic Carpet]

They already get more, its just not materialized as extra cores.

Things like... more, enough, plenty... are pretty subjective.

 

[Red Hawk]

You just prooved how greedy intel is, they disable HT on the I5's which costs MORE than leaving it alone and sell the I7's for 100$+ more for a "feature" that is inherent to the design from the get-go.

Well, yeah. Intel sees an opportunity to make some extra money, and they exploit it. They have a right to sell their products at any configuration at any price they choose. We as the consumer have the right to choose to buy or not buy that product. There's nothing particularly wrong about any of that.

Why are you quoting me for something that I have not said?

Simple, because you said it.

 

[BenchPress]

Mainstream Haswell chips will have 64 compute cores, made available through the AVX2 instruction set extension. It offers the best performance/Watt improvement imaginable.

And more cores is worthless without more multi-threaded software. Haswell also adds TSX technology to make that happen.

 

[AdamK47]

Socket 2011 really isn't all that expensive.

 

[Red Hawk]

Mainstream Haswell chips will have 64 compute cores, made available through the AVX2 instruction set extension. It offers the best performance/Watt improvement imaginable.

And more cores is worthless without more multi-threaded software. Haswell also adds TSX technology to make that happen.

Will it also cure cancer and force Valve to make Half Life 3? :sneaky:

 

[Sable]

Will it also cure cancer and force Valve to make Half Life 3? :sneaky:

Cure cancer maybe. HL3? Keep dreaming.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Socket 2011 really isn't all that expensive.

I really can't think of any way where s2011 isn't far more expensive. Even if we throw in an "affordable" ~$300 quad core i7 3820, to justify going to s2011, chances are one would likely be utilizing a ton of memory from 8 memory slots with expensive software that can use up that memory, or using the extra PCI-e lanes with either multiple video cards or other expensive expansion cards, or using a $500+ sixcore CPU...

maybe you're forgetting that there are plenty of s1155 boards that can be had for less than $100, while the cheapest s2011 board on newegg is $180 + shipping, and that's after a rebate...

 

[moonbogg]

Cure cancer maybe. HL3? Keep dreaming.

They'll just bust out a COD style rehash and use the same old engine again. Not worth dreaming about. COD makes me sick to my stomach. I stopped buying it after MW2 (which I played for 5 minutes).
Regarding cancer, if there was a god who cared there would be no cancer. If there is a god, he doesn't care, so screw him anyway. Being Atheist makes life's challenges so much easier to accept.

 

[Red Hawk]

They'll just bust out a COD style rehash and use the same old engine again. Not worth dreaming about. COD makes me sick to my stomach. I stopped buying it after MW2 (which I played for 5 minutes).
Regarding cancer, if there was a god who cared there would be no cancer. If there is a god, he doesn't care, so screw him anyway. Being Atheist makes life's challenges so much easier to accept.

Oh god what have I done...

 

[Edrick]

I really can't think of any way where s2011 isn't far more expensive. Even if we throw in an "affordable" ~$300 quad core i7 3820, to justify going to s2011, chances are one would likely be utilizing a ton of memory from 8 memory slots with expensive software that can use up that memory, or using the extra PCI-e lanes with either multiple video cards or other expensive expansion cards, or using a $500+ sixcore CPU...

maybe you're forgetting that there are plenty of s1155 boards that can be had for less than $100, while the cheapest s2011 board on newegg is $180 + shipping, and that's after a rebate...

WOAH! $80 more for a s2011 system over a s1155 system. That is "far" more expansive and too rich for my blood.

The rest of your post is just BS trying to make a point that does not exist.

 

[Arachnotronic]

WOAH! $80 more for a s2011 system over a s1155 system. That is "far" more expansive and too rich for my blood.

The rest of your post is just BS trying to make a point that does not exist.

Yeah, I don't really get why people say LGA 2011 is "too expensive". Yes, it carries a slight premium over LGA 1155, but it's just not a huge delta in the "enthusiast space".

If you're building a budget i3/i5 box + H61 board, then it's a totally different story.

I went with LGA 1155 because I'm ultra cheap, but it's not like going LGA 2011 would've made me poor.

 

[Hugo Drax]

I would rather Intel focus on improving IPC and power consumption than more cores. For 98% of users most cores sit idle.

For that 2% who need more cores, well you get the high end Xeon workstations.

 

[tweakboy]

In the roadmap it shows Haswell ,, will have 6 core version. There will be Haswell 6 core option for consumers,, US!!! ,,,,,,I saw it in a chart a little while back ago.

 

[greenhawk]

In the roadmap it shows Haswell ,, will have 6 core version. There will be Haswell 6 core option for consumers,, US!!! ,,,,,,I saw it in a chart a little while back ago.

link?

sure it is not the upgrade that will replace s2011 in the high end market?

 

[ShintaiDK]

In the roadmap it shows Haswell ,, will have 6 core version. There will be Haswell 6 core option for consumers,, US!!! ,,,,,,I saw it in a chart a little while back ago.

Not for LGA1150. But im sure there will be some 6-8 cores HW-E and HW-EN. And up to 14 cores for HW-EP.

 

[reb0rn]

I bet Intel planed 6 core haswell for LGA1150, but when they sow so huge flop of AMD BD they started to rethink core number for mainstream

 

[pelov]

I bet Intel planed 6 core haswell for LGA1150, but when they sow so huge flop of AMD BD they started to rethink core number for mainstream

Not likely. The mainstream chips are designed with laptops/mobile in mind and not the other way around. Haswell has been, as far as I can remember (and I remember seeing a slide about a year ago confirming it's a 4-core part) a 4c/8t chip. If you want or need more than 4 cores and 8 threads you'll need to drop some dough on the workstation platform.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Greedy because you think you are entitled to a super cheap hexcore?

Not super cheap, but something proportionate to the price of a quad core that can be used on the mainstream platform. For instance the i5-2500 had a price of 205.00. With the die shrink I would think they could sell a six core ivy version for 350.00 and still make a handy profit. Heck, even charge 400.00 for it. And put it on a mainstream platform to save some more money.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Not super cheap, but something proportionate to the price of a quad core that can be used on the mainstream platform. For instance the i5-2500 had a price of 205.00. With the die shrink I would think they could sell a six core ivy version for 350.00 and still make a handy profit. Heck, even charge 400.00 for it. And put it on a mainstream platform to save some more money.

And what, charge 5$ more for every other CPU so they can sell a handful of hexcores for the mainstream platform? The only reason you got LGA2011 hexcores today is because they can be made from Xeons.

A hexcore mask and validation plus product and platform support for LGA115x would have trouble to pay for itself.

 

[greenhawk]

Not super cheap, but something proportionate to the price of a quad core that can be used on the mainstream platform. For instance the i5-2500 had a price of 205.00. With the die shrink I would think they could sell a six core ivy version for 350.00 and still make a handy profit. Heck, even charge 400.00 for it. And put it on a mainstream platform to save some more money.

at $350 for a hex core would greatly effect the 6 core sb-e range.

"affordable" to intel would be to protect the existing offerings, so a hex core on a main stream platform will be closer to $700.

 

[Kippa]

I happly paid more for my i7 970 six core upgrading from the i7 920 quad core. The two extra cores made a huge difference to me with 3d rendering. This current machine is starting to show its age. As for me I decided to skip Sandy bridge and Ivy Bridge. I do hope that they will bring out a mainstream six core Haswell cpu and if they do then I might just get it even it I have to pay a premium like I did when I got the i7 970, depending on how much they charge for it.