6 core i7 question

[elkido122]

Is it necessary to upgrade my 6700k for the more cpu demanding games coming out? I see that BF1 in a 64 player room a 4.2 ghz 5930k had 30% advantage over an i5 4690 at 3.9ghz . That kind of concerns me and makes me think my 6700k is not enough for new games coming out. Any help appreciated

 

[Reinvented]

Is it necessary to upgrade my 6700k for the more cpu demanding games coming out? I see that BF1 in a 64 player room a 4.2 ghz 5930k had 30% advantage over an i5 4690 at 3.9ghz . That kind of concerns me and makes me think my 6700k is not enough for new games coming out. Any help appreciated

First off, we don't know where you got those figures from. 30% advantage in frames? That's quite a lot considering 64 players aren't going to be in the same spot. Poor optimization on DICE's part give all sorts of different numbers. On top of that, there's no benchmark for BF1 to accurately reproduce the same scene over and over again. Secondly, the jump from 4C/4T to 6C/12T is HUGE. You are sitting at 4C/8T, and there's absolutely no reason for you to upgrade. If you are feeling like BF1 is slowing down a bit, and you are getting frame stutters, then it's probably not your computer, but DICE's poor optimization. Even DX12 doesn't work properly still, and the games been out for over 6 months. And lastly, we don't know the rest of your computer specs to tell you what you may need to upgrade, and at what resolution. Do you even know what resolution you want to play at? Or at what settings? It boils down to if you are after performance or quality, or a mix of both?

 

[elkido122]

wasnt just on that. it was on playersunknown battlegrounds. which uses the unreal engine.

 

[UsandThem]

Is it necessary to upgrade my 6700k for the more cpu demanding games coming out? I see that BF1 in a 64 player room a 4.2 ghz 5930k had 30% advantage over an i5 4690 at 3.9ghz . That kind of concerns me and makes me think my 6700k is not enough for new games coming out. Any help appreciated

Even if the 5930k has a 30% advantage over the 4690 (you didn't link the site), why would you care? You have a 6700k, which also beats the 4690.

Upgrade when you actually need to (i.e. your PC is incapable of playing games you own). Don't upgrade simply because you fear future demanding games. "Future proofing" is a battle you will never win. There is always something newer and faster just down the road.

There are people here still gaming with Sandy Bridge and earlier CPUs, so I think your 6700k has just a tiny bit of relevance left.

 

[LTC8K6]

Is it necessary to upgrade my 6700k for the more cpu demanding games coming out? I see that BF1 in a 64 player room a 4.2 ghz 5930k had 30% advantage over an i5 4690 at 3.9ghz . That kind of concerns me and makes me think my 6700k is not enough for new games coming out. Any help appreciated

6700K should be fine for a while yet. If you have the upgrade bug, in August it's barely possible that you might be able to put a Coffee Lake 6 core cpu in your board.
Otherwise for you an upgrade right now means a new board and a new CPU. Either AMD or Intel.

 

[edcoolio]

Is it necessary to upgrade my 6700k for the more cpu demanding games coming out? I see that BF1 in a 64 player room a 4.2 ghz 5930k had 30% advantage over an i5 4690 at 3.9ghz . That kind of concerns me and makes me think my 6700k is not enough for new games coming out. Any help appreciated

No, it is not necessary to upgrade a 6700k, as others have said.

If you have cash burning a hole in your pocket, you are better off waiting until there is an AAA title that is not playing the way you want and then buying the best GPU you can afford.

If you do this, and the "future" game is still unplayable, THEN you should upgrade your motherboard-RAM-CPU.

 

[beginner99]

If you actually feel limited you can always search for what settings to change. Often 1-2 setting in options have little impact on quality but a pretty big one on CPU (and/or GPU).

 

[dullard]

So let me get this right:
1) a massively overclocked, newer i7, with 6 cores, 12 threads, 15 MB cache, and possibly much faster DDR4 2133 memory

slightly but noticeably beat

2) an older i5 with 4 cores, 4 threads, 6 MB cache, and at best DDR3 1600 memory.

And you automatically assume the difference was because of the core count? Too many variables. Unless you are multi-tasking (gaming + streaming for example), I still haven't seen anything that shows more than 4 cores helps gaming. They are almost always an apples-to-oranges comparisons where the chip with more cores also has many other advantages, so we can't really see the exact difference that the cores have on gaming.

I'm with the others. Keep your 6700k until it is too slow for gaming. Then determine if it is a core count problem or not when you get a new chip.

 

[nathanddrews]

I'm going to go the total opposite way of all these stick-in-the-mud fuddy-duddies and say wholeheartedly and emphatically that YES you should upgrade to a 6900K and OC the living crap out of it. Why stop at 6-core? Jump up to 8C/16T and live the dream. You could wait for Skylake-X, Coffee Lake, or Threadripper, but you've got money right now that needs to be spent! Jump in! Do it!

 

[elkido122]

i hear most games are using more GPU anyways like they should be. i guess the need for more than 4 cores is a long long ways away in the gaming department. i hear the programming for it is not easy.

 

[elkido122]

i just dont want to have to worry about my 6700k not being enough.. i dont want to have to upgrade.

 

[UsandThem]

i just dont want to have to worry about my 6700k not being enough.. i dont want to have to upgrade.

Then go ahead and upgrade. It's your money. You don't have to upgrade now, but it sounds like you have the 'upgrade bug'. What games are you playing where a 6700k isn't enough? Hopefully your next CPU will give you peace of mind, and you won't have to worry about it.........at least until the next CPU release.

Just remember, you will be upgrading your motherboard as well unless you stay with LGA 1151, and do a side upgrade to a 7700k.

 

[elkido122]

Anything using the unreal engine . Players unknown , upcoming mirage arcade . Stuff like that

 

[Valantar]

To sum this up:
"This report says that a 6c12t CPU @4.2GHz beats a 4c4t CPU @3.9 by 30%. Should I then replace my 4c8t @4GHz?"
Tha answer ought to be obvious from the get-go. The 5930k has 3x the threads of the i5, but only 50% more than the i7. Clock speeds are comparable, and the 6700k can most likely clock higher than the 5930k. IPC should be the same as they're all Haswell(-E).

In other words: no. While SMT threads aren't equal to more cores, there's a very tangible difference between an i5 and an i7 for multithreaded workloads.

 

[vissarix]

Is it necessary to upgrade my 6700k for the more cpu demanding games coming out? I see that BF1 in a 64 player room a 4.2 ghz 5930k had 30% advantage over an i5 4690 at 3.9ghz . That kind of concerns me and makes me think my 6700k is not enough for new games coming out. Any help appreciated

You didnt tell us a anything about the rest of your configuration...gpu? monitor? is your i7 6700k overclocked?

 

[elkido122]

My CPU runs at a consistent 4.2 with xmp enabled on my ram. So that bumped it to its turbo speed at all times . Acer 24 1080p 144hz monitor and I have a grx1080ti. Does that cover it all ?? Thanks

 

[Sable]

Is it necessary to upgrade my 6700k for the more cpu demanding games coming out? I see that BF1 in a 64 player room a 4.2 ghz 5930k had 30% advantage over an i5 4690 at 3.9ghz . That kind of concerns me and makes me think my 6700k is not enough for new games coming out. Any help appreciated

YES YOU MUST UPGRADE NOW!!!

at some point in the future your PC will not be able to run future games.

Seriously, I despair.

Wait for game you really want to play to come out.
Play game on current system.
If game does not play to your satisfaction upgrade.

 

[Valantar]

My CPU runs at a consistent 4.2 with xmp enabled on my ram. So that bumped it to its turbo speed at all times . Acer 24 1080p 144hz monitor and I have a grx1080ti. Does that cover it all ?? Thanks

Unless you're noticing some obvious slowdowns (which you really shouldn't be with a setup like that), I would leave well enough alone. If 64-player multiplayer in BF1 turns out to not run at 144fps ... so what? Adjust your refresh rate accordingly. As long as it's above 50-60fps, I wouldn't mind. If it's below that, I would start looking into what is causing the bottleneck. If not, again, leave well enough alone.