5new build

[JB77]

Looking to build 45nm system with OC and upgrade potential, budget 2.5kgbp or 5k$. Not going for DDR3 straight away same goes for Mobo.

CPU QX9650
Asus Maximum Extreme X38
4 GB corsair TwinX DDR2 XMS2 Dominator, PC2-8500 (1066)
1 NVidia 768 OCZ 8800 GTX extreme
Xi-F soundblaster
WD Raptors 150 GB (2x)
Case: Lian Li PC-V1000 Plus II (maybe not the cheapest but love the look)

appreciate feedback

 

[Blain]

Originally posted by: Blain

Originally posted by: JB77

WD Raptors 160 GB (2x)

appreciate feedback

Schweigen with that Raptor talk! :shocked: Menschen around here don't take kindly to it!

 

[DSF]

When you say "with OC", what sort of speeds are you looking to hit?

(And my second question would be why? If you're just looking to game, a stock 45nm chip is plenty. If you need serious number-crunching, that might be different.)

 

[LOUISSSSS]

Originally posted by: JB77

1 NVidia 768 OCZ 8800 GTX extreme


appreciate feedback

why are you buying a 1.5-2 year old video card?

get one or two 3870's to max out that x38 chipset!

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Blain

Originally posted by: Blain

Originally posted by: JB77

WD Raptors 160 GB (2x)

appreciate feedback

Hesh up that Raptor talk! :shocked: Folks round here don't take kindly to it!

blaine can i ask why you hate raiding raptors?

all the posts on raptors i see you're telling people not to get them.

I agree with you on 2 raptors. but if they can stretch the budget, 4 on RAID rapes.

7 sec widows loadup time from start to finish.... Instant boot up from welcome screen to main desktop.

Not to mention when i game like CS1.6 i load maps faster then the server side. Always get a ghost round.


Ummmm... i think you get the point... but i want to know why you hate them so much.

(honest curiosity, not trying to single you out)


8800GTS 512meg > 8800GTX Unless you tri sli

8800GTS >> 3870 You dont need xfire or sli unless your running resolutions in the 24inch+ range

 

[MegaVovaN]

Originally posted by: aigomorla
8800GTS 512meg > 8800GTX Unless you tri sli

I wouldn't put it so boldly.
GTX still has 384-bit bus and 768 meg of VRAM...sure in some areas 8800GTS might be equal to GTX. But at high resolutions GTX is still a winner, else why would it cost more than a GTS 512?

and two 8800GTX will definitely RAPE HARDCORE the 8800GTS 512mb :laugh:

 

[DSF]

Originally posted by: MegaVovaN

Originally posted by: aigomorla
8800GTS 512meg > 8800GTX Unless you tri sli

I wouldn't put it so boldly.
GTX still has 384-bit bus and 768 meg of VRAM...sure in some areas 8800GTS might be equal to GTX. But at high resolutions GTX is still a winner, else why would it cost more than a GTS 512?

and two 8800GTX will definitely RAPE HARDCORE the 8800GTS 512mb :laugh:

Price isn't everything. The 640MB version of the 8800GTS costs more than an 8800GT, even though the GT is a better performer. An E6600 will cost you more than a higher-performance E6750.

The GTX and G92 GTS are more-or-less equal. In some games the GTS wins, in others the GTX wins. In some, they're essentially equal.

 

[JB77]

Originally posted by: DSF
When you say "with OC", what sort of speeds are you looking to hit?

(And my second question would be why? If you're just looking to game, a stock 45nm chip is plenty. If you need serious number-crunching, that might be different.)

Mostly for gaming and video editing, like the 45nmfor its lower temp and wattage. Oc maybe 3.5 ghz just to try and experiment, thought that it would give some upside stretch in performance and with the cooler CPU that shouldnt need things like watercooling (I hope!)

 

[JB77]

Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS

Originally posted by: JB77

1 NVidia 768 OCZ 8800 GTX extreme


appreciate feedback

why are you buying a 1.5-2 year old video card?

get one or two 3870's to max out that x38 chipset!

Maybe I should wait for the new NVIDIA or ATI to come out, but guess it can't be an SLI if I want the 45 nm CPU

 

[JB77]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: Blain

Originally posted by: Blain

Originally posted by: JB77

WD Raptors 160 GB (2x)

appreciate feedback

Hesh up that Raptor talk! :shocked: Folks round here don't take kindly to it!

blaine can i ask why you hate raiding raptors?

all the posts on raptors i see you're telling people not to get them.

I agree with you on 2 raptors. but if they can stretch the budget, 4 on RAID rapes.

7 sec widows loadup time from start to finish.... Instant boot up from welcome screen to main desktop.

Not to mention when i game like CS1.6 i load maps faster then the server side. Always get a ghost round.


Ummmm... i think you get the point... but i want to know why you hate them so much.

(honest curiosity, not trying to single you out)


8800GTS 512meg > 8800GTX Unless you tri sli

8800GTS >> 3870 You dont need xfire or sli unless your running resolutions in the 24inch+ range

I would be buying a 24 inch screen to go with it

 

[DSF]

Originally posted by: JB77

Originally posted by: DSF
When you say "with OC", what sort of speeds are you looking to hit?

(And my second question would be why? If you're just looking to game, a stock 45nm chip is plenty. If you need serious number-crunching, that might be different.)

Mostly for gaming and video editing, like the 45nmfor its lower temp and wattage. Oc maybe 3.5 ghz just to try and experiment, thought that it would give some upside stretch in performance and with the cooler CPU that shouldnt need things like watercooling (I hope!)

Then with all due respect, you're throwing a lot of money away.

I don't know how much video editing you plan to do, but 4 cores won't help you much in gaming. You're much better off buying a dual-core chip for now and upgrading later if you think you really need quad core. The rest of the 45nm quad-core lineup is supposed to be out in a few months for much less than the QX9650. (They should all be able to hit 3.5GHz. For what it's worth though, you're not going to notice a difference in gaming between 3GHz and 3.5GHz.)

In my mind, there's no way to justify the price premium of the extreme edition for what you're doing.

 

[Blain]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: Blain

Originally posted by: Blain

Originally posted by: JB77

WD Raptors 160 GB (2x)

appreciate feedback

Schweigen with that Raptor talk! :shocked: Menschen around here don't take kindly to it!

blaine can i ask why you hate raiding raptors?

all the posts on raptors i see you're telling people not to get them...

I don't hate Raptors. I own two of them and I have two other WD drives running in a RAID 0 array.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: DSF

Originally posted by: MegaVovaN

Originally posted by: aigomorla
8800GTS 512meg > 8800GTX Unless you tri sli

I wouldn't put it so boldly.
GTX still has 384-bit bus and 768 meg of VRAM...sure in some areas 8800GTS might be equal to GTX. But at high resolutions GTX is still a winner, else why would it cost more than a GTS 512?

and two 8800GTX will definitely RAPE HARDCORE the 8800GTS 512mb :laugh:

Price isn't everything. The 640MB version of the 8800GTS costs more than an 8800GT, even though the GT is a better performer. An E6600 will cost you more than a higher-performance E6750.

The GTX and G92 GTS are more-or-less equal. In some games the GTS wins, in others the GTX wins. In some, they're essentially equal.

less heat output lower power draw, and near same performance hence why i say greater.

Blah... id still get a 8800GTS 512 and have it hold out until price drops on a the new 9800 class gpu's.

 

[DSF]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

less heat output lower power draw, and near same performance hence why i say greater.

Blah... id still get a 8800GTS 512 and have it hold out until price drops on a the new 9800 class gpu's.

Yes, I agree with you completely. I was simply saying that just because something is more expensive (like the GTX) doesn't mean it's better.

 

[JB77]

Originally posted by: DSF

Originally posted by: JB77

Originally posted by: DSF
When you say "with OC", what sort of speeds are you looking to hit?

(And my second question would be why? If you're just looking to game, a stock 45nm chip is plenty. If you need serious number-crunching, that might be different.)

Mostly for gaming and video editing, like the 45nmfor its lower temp and wattage. Oc maybe 3.5 ghz just to try and experiment, thought that it would give some upside stretch in performance and with the cooler CPU that shouldnt need things like watercooling (I hope!)

Then with all due respect, you're throwing a lot of money away.

I don't know how much video editing you plan to do, but 4 cores won't help you much in gaming. You're much better off buying a dual-core chip for now and upgrading later if you think you really need quad core. The rest of the 45nm quad-core lineup is supposed to be out in a few months for much less than the QX9650. (They should all be able to hit 3.5GHz. For what it's worth though, you're not going to notice a difference in gaming between 3GHz and 3.5GHz.)

In my mind, there's no way to justify the price premium of the extreme edition for what you're doing.

Thanks, was thinking of that to improve readiness assuming games at some point leverage quad capibilty but guess what your saying is that I could upgrade when that is the case.

Any views how high it would OC on air while still being stable?

 

[DSF]

Originally posted by: JB77
Thanks, was thinking of that to improve readiness assuming games at some point leverage quad capibilty but guess what your saying is that I could upgrade when that is the case.

That's exactly what I'm saying.

To review the relevant facts:
1) Games do not currently take significant advantage of four cores. (For that matter, most don't even tap dual-core processors.)
2) No one is expecting games to leverage quad-core chips for at least a year.
3) In 3-4 months time, you will be able to buy a quad-core processor very nearly as fast as that QX9650 for under $400.

Sometimes it doesn't make sense to buy conservatively with the expectation of upgrading later, but in this case it does.

 

[JB77]

Thanks (read the other post too) sounds like valuable advice! Any view/suggestion on a good 45 nm capable Mobo?