5700X $200 with Coupon code and FS.

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I feel like a Zen 3 8 core for $200 is the best deal right now in this range. I know the 5600G, 5600 and 5500 are less, but I think a modern gaming system should be using an 8 core CPU by now, and $200 isn't that much more. An alternative would be to find a used 5800X for possibly less, obviously YMMV based on seller.
 
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I feel like a Zen 3 8 core for $200 is the best deal right now in this range. I know the 5600G, 5600 and 5500 are less, but I think a modern gaming system should be using an 8 core CPU by now, and $200 isn't that much more. An alternative would be to find a used 5800X for possibly less, obviously YMMV based on seller.
I agree, 16 threads will age better than 12.

The game code makes this a spooktacular deal. I would have much preferred Uncharted to the horrible, broken, and bad excuse for a Saints Row game, that came with the GPU I bought.
 

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I agree, 16 threads will age better than 12.

The game code makes this a spooktacular deal. I would have much preferred Uncharted to the horrible, broken, and bad excuse for a Saints Row game, that came with the GPU I bought.

But you could have had Sniper Elite 3 or an unreleased Squenix game!?! ;)

Yes, I was pleased to get Borderlands 3 back in the day. It's nice to get a "real" game if they are going to bother with the bundle shens. Uncharted is a known quantity.
 
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Can't complain much since I got my i5-12400F for $155 back in June, but wow would I have jumped hard at a 5700X for $200. That's maybe the best cpu deal I have seen since the $85 Ryzen 5 1600 a few years ago.
 

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But you could have had Sniper Elite 3 or an unreleased Squenix game!?! ;)

Yes, I was pleased to get Borderlands 3 back in the day. It's nice to get a "real" game if they are going to bother with the bundle shens. Uncharted is a known quantity.
By the time you told me about that, it was too late. But yeah, many PC gamers have never played an Uncharted game so it adds value.

Big shoutout to competition. AMD was the budget option. Then Intel had to start competing on price. Now AMD is forced to drop prices again, to compete at the $200 and under market that Intel has owned for a good while now.
 

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Well, I picked this up to replace my 2700X, grabbed some 2x16gb 3600 cl15 memory for $65.

...now I need to flash my BIOS for the x470 Taichi. Never did this before as I usually just replace everything every 5-7 years. Don't want to make a whole new rig, though. ...but the Vega 64 will need to be replaced by 6800XT or 6900....I will soon need to push 11 million pixels @, hopefully, ~100FPS (but 140FPS would be better!) because I got 3x of these yesterday in Amazon's flash prime sale (still on for today!)

 

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Well, I picked this up to replace my 2700X, grabbed some 2x16gb 3600 cl15 memory for $65.

...now I need to flash my BIOS for the x470 Taichi. Never did this before as I usually just replace everything every 5-7 years. Don't want to make a whole new rig, though. ...but the Vega 64 will need to be replaced by 6800XT or 6900....I will soon need to push 11 million pixels @, hopefully, ~100FPS (but 140FPS would be better!) because I got 3x of these yesterday in Amazon's flash prime sale (still on for today!)


I find one of the nice things about old firmware on AMD/Intel boards is that they fail the W11 check so it doesn't start prompting you to install that. If you currently fail the W11 check, be prepared to pass it if you use the latest firmware :)
 

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I find one of the nice things about old firmware on AMD/Intel boards is that they fail the W11 check so it doesn't start prompting you to install that. If you currently fail the W11 check, be prepared to pass it if you use the latest firmware :)

oh shoot, I didn't consider that I'd have to do fresh Windows install, lol. I'm still on 10, will have to dig out my strange, always-working key check method, whatever that was.

This board, I think I have to flash to some 2.0 BIOS first, then the latest from I dunno, 2020? that is 4.6 and a few revisions after then Zen3 flash for 470 boards. I even recalled the dark days of "Oh NOOO! AMD abandoned us on A4 like they said they never would! AHhhhhhh!

man, harsh weeks for some people cause they just couldn't wait for people to get a working BIOS out within the first weeks of a major product launch..to appease your old board that they literally have no incentive to prioritize for you, not-buying-their-shit-in-the-last-3-years person, you, because their suppliers take all the margins on everything, lol.

anyhoo, off I go to prep myself for this, or just get lazy and stupid and buy up some cheap 570 board and fresh-to-me NvMe drive or whatever.

Windows 11 is free, yeah? I wanna keep a Win10 main system going, because.
 

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oh shoot, I didn't consider that I'd have to do fresh Windows install, lol. I'm still on 10, will have to dig out my strange, always-working key check method, whatever that was.

This board, I think I have to flash to some 2.0 BIOS first, then the latest from I dunno, 2020? that is 4.6 and a few revisions after then Zen3 flash for 470 boards. I even recalled the dark days of "Oh NOOO! AMD abandoned us on A4 like they said they never would! AHhhhhhh!

man, harsh weeks for some people cause they just couldn't wait for people to get a working BIOS out within the first weeks of a major product launch..to appease your old board that they literally have no incentive to prioritize for you, not-buying-their-shit-in-the-last-3-years person, you, because their suppliers take all the margins on everything, lol.

anyhoo, off I go to prep myself for this, or just get lazy and stupid and buy up some cheap 570 board and fresh-to-me NvMe drive or whatever.

Windows 11 is free, yeah? I wanna keep a Win10 main system going, because.

Oh you shouldn't have to do a Windows install unless you want too. It's just that once you "pass" with the W11 minimum system requirements (and you will) after updating (because they check without asking you) then they will start prompting for the update. It's entirely possible if you just use the earliest Zen 3 bios you might be A-OK and "fail", but then you are probably running the risk of weird USB issues. Your call!

Your board will have a digital license assigned to it. If you sold it to me and installed W10 or 11 on it and chose the right edition, it would magically activate for me too without an additional license.

Windows 11 is free if you have an activated W10 license already or a key handy from W7 and new and doing a fresh install. An old netbook or anything laying about has a key on it that will work. I mean, that's what I have heard ;)

Win 11 Sucks. MS again dictating how you will run the OS. They love making it hard for you.

My biggest peeve is no longer allowing a fresh install without using a MS account to login. There is a work around, but you have to start the install, fail, reboot, use a command line tool and restart the install again and it will finally bypass the online check. What a crock, especially when building systems for others or for resale. I don't want to have dummy accounts, etc. Gross.
 

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A lot of what I use is buried. more clicks or learn a shortcut. I use a mouse to not click on a keyboard.......The Sound menu is terrible. WTF is the Focus thing you cant turn off. LMAO. It is worse than Vista.
 

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Win 11 Sucks. MS again dictating how you will run the OS. They love making it hard for you.
Linux gamming is now improving so fast, I may be able to finally ditch windows entirely in the near future. With my all AMD builds anyways.

Deal is still on. Perfect CPU for ensuring you can handle the CPU intensive PS5 ports in the future. At the price a Ryzen 3600 used to sell for.
 

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My biggest peeve is no longer allowing a fresh install without using a MS account to login. There is a work around, but you have to start the install, fail, reboot, use a command line tool and restart the install again and it will finally bypass the online check. What a crock, especially when building systems for others or for resale. I don't want to have dummy accounts, etc. Gross.
Agreed!
 
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Oh you shouldn't have to do a Windows install unless you want too. It's just that once you "pass" with the W11 minimum system requirements (and you will) after updating (because they check without asking you) then they will start prompting for the update. It's entirely possible if you just use the earliest Zen 3 bios you might be A-OK and "fail", but then you are probably running the risk of weird USB issues. Your call!

Your board will have a digital license assigned to it. If you sold it to me and installed W10 or 11 on it and chose the right edition, it would magically activate for me too without an additional license.

Windows 11 is free if you have an activated W10 license already or a key handy from W7 and new and doing a fresh install. An old netbook or anything laying about has a key on it that will work. I mean, that's what I have heard ;)



My biggest peeve is no longer allowing a fresh install without using a MS account to login. There is a work around, but you have to start the install, fail, reboot, use a command line tool and restart the install again and it will finally bypass the online check. What a crock, especially when building systems for others or for resale. I don't want to have dummy accounts, etc. Gross.

OK, good to know. Hopefully not too much of an issue. From what I understand, I first will need to update mine to 2.0, as some hard check for all later BIOS. At this point, I believe I can keep my 2700x in place and not bother with much else. Then when I update to 3.6 (or whatever the first Zen3 BIOS is), does this mean I have to install my Zen3 before it will boot? I assumed I could just keep the 2700x in until I'm done with all the BIOS updates, and once that is clean, shut down and install the 5700X. I will need to flash to the newest BIOS because of the USB issues. I will probably have my first ever fully-filled USB ports on this system, possibly with an additional hub needed, because this is going to be a sim rig with all sorts of crap plugged into it.

I hate dealing with Win10+ account checks. I've made like, 2 dozen MS account passwords because I never remember that crap and only rarely have to log in when there is a hard update that requires a new login. It's very annoying.


....still need to find a 6800-6950XT (as possibly a holdover for these 3x displays; which will then be moved to the updated standalone gaming rig a year or two later and have everything else new for Zen4); and I might even consider a used deal on a 3090 right now, if it wasn't in the mines and "decently priced." I would be open to purchasing one from someone because I feel like I am not then giving cash to nVidia. :D
 

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My biggest peeve is no longer allowing a fresh install without using a MS account to login.

My main rig dual-boots 10/11 but I use 10 99% of the time.

I was doing updates the other day and decided I'd take care of 11 after I tightened up 10.... that freaking POS Win 11 tried to force me to sign into M$ on reboot!

I was able to use the "unplug the network cable" workaround to avoid doing so but what the hell ?!?

:mad:
 

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Windows 11 is free if you have an activated W10 license already or a key handy from W7 and new and doing a fresh install. An old netbook or anything laying about has a key on it that will work. I mean, that's what I have heard ;)

I am unfamiliar with these shenanigans. I have an old Surface Pro 4 that is about to be sent to the farm out in the country....I can somehow use that key to install Win10 on a new desktop build?
 

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I am unfamiliar with these shenanigans. I have an old Surface Pro 4 that is about to be sent to the farm out in the country....I can somehow use that key to install Win10 on a new desktop build?

You just need to be able to see the key. Something like a Surface likely had the key burned into its firmware and I don’t think it can be extracted.

Basically you need a fancy key sticker for W7 or newer and the key will work. These were easy to find and plentiful in the old days.

Buying a key from eBay is an option too. PM me if you want know how that’s worked for me.
 
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Been awhile since I've done it but AFAIK all you will need is a Windows 7/8 key and you should be able to install/activate Win 10 on any compatible PC.

Keep in mind however that if you want to do a "clean install" rather than an upgrade you will need to either install Win 7 SP1 or some version of Win 10 itself first to make it work. (10 has to "see" a version of Windows to install unless you have a full "retail" copy)
 

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Most OEM PCs or Laptops will install 10 without an issue. No key needed. Then the 11 upgrade is free after that.

Home built PCs need the Win 10 "key" which you can get cheaply via online retailers, or old PC Win7-8 keys. There are workarounds for this too.
 
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Looks like MicroCenter is the only one with it for $200 at the moment. Next lowest is Amazon $229, or you can price match them at Best Buy. I'd rather have the 5% back from Amazon since I don't do enough biz with Best Buy to make it worth my time. My last $5 certificate expired with BB before I even remembered to use it.

On windows: I buy legit 10 pro for $10-$12. If you want 11 pro, click the I don't have a key during install, then use the 10pro key to activate. I have done it multiple times without issue.
 
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Most OEM PCs or Laptops will install 10 without an issue. No key needed. Then the 11 upgrade is free after that.

Home built PCs need the Win 10 "key" which you can get cheaply via online retailers, or old PC Win7-8 keys. There are workarounds for this too.


Without using a somewhat dubious "workaround" the majority of current Win 10 PC's are incompatible with Win 11 thanks to TPM requirements.

However IMO Win 11 sucks and I have no plans to switch my primary OS from 10 until I'm forced to do so.

Unless running an Intel 12th/13th gen CPU which MAY be slower using 10 I wouldn't bother with 11 anyway.
 
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