5600X for $175 Newegg

[dlerious]

Seems like a decent deal

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[Macgyversite]

5600x is a great cpu for the money. They are supposedly working on more 3D V Cache cpus like the 5800x that mite be worth a wait.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

At that price, it squashes most of the arguments against AM4 for powerful budget builds. I know there is now the 5600, but is it binned as well? Doubtful. I have also concluded upgrade path is a pointless checkbox for choosing LGA1700. Won't need a faster CPU in the timeframe 13th gen is also relevant. PCIE 5.0 isn't going to be a factor either.

You can upgrade your older Zen model, or use a $94 MSI B550 with AX+BT and have a system that will game it up for years to come on the cheap. And despite claims that overclocking is dead, my experience is that is nonsense. You could potentially get a 5600X that can do better than its max boost clock all core, on stock voltages. All of my Zen 3 CPUs have done better than advertised. /my hot take

 

[Hans Gruber]

At that price, it squashes most of the arguments against AM4 for powerful budget builds. I know there is now the 5600, but is it binned as well? Doubtful. I have also concluded upgrade path is a pointless checkbox for choosing LGA1700. Won't need a faster CPU in the timeframe 13th gen is also relevant. PCIE 5.0 isn't going to be a factor either.

You can upgrade your older Zen model, or use a $94 MSI B550 with AX+BT and have a system that will game it up for years to come on the cheap. And despite claims that overclocking is dead, my experience is that is nonsense. You could potentially get a 5600X that can do better than its max boost clock all core, on stock voltages. All of my Zen 3 CPUs have done better than advertised. /my hot take

Here is a 5600 to cure your doubtful thoughts on binning. That's 4.8ghz ----200mhz higher than a 5600x max boost clock.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Here is a 5600 to cure your doubtful thoughts on binning. That's 4.8ghz ----200mhz higher than a 5600x max boost clock.
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More evidence my brain is toast. I now remember you posting that. Thanks for the refresher.

Based on Newegg pricing for both, and the price protection guarantee on the 5600X, it is a no brainer to go X. Everyone knows "X gonna give it to ya!"

 

[Captante]

At that price, it squashes most of the arguments against AM4 for powerful budget builds. I know there is now the 5600, but is it binned as well? Doubtful. I have also concluded upgrade path is a pointless checkbox for choosing LGA1700. Won't need a faster CPU in the timeframe 13th gen is also relevant. PCIE 5.0 isn't going to be a factor either.

You can upgrade your older Zen model, or use a $94 MSI B550 with AX+BT and have a system that will game it up for years to come on the cheap. And despite claims that overclocking is dead, my experience is that is nonsense. You could potentially get a 5600X that can do better than its max boost clock all core, on stock voltages. All of my Zen 3 CPUs have done better than advertised. /my hot take

Yep.... my 5800x does 4.65g all-core & 4.95g single-core using only Zen master auto-OC. (running on a 360mm AIO)

Right now it's tough to find a 5600 non-X for significantly less then $175 so this chip for $175 (or the 12400f @ $155 but pricier MB) are the way to go for a cheapo gaming rig BUT if the 5600 non-X drops in price IT becomes the no-brainer. (the Ryzen 5500 is best avoided no matter the price)

AMD Ryzen 5 5600X vs Intel i5 12400f (userbenchmark)

 

[dlerious]

More evidence my brain is toast. I now remember you posting that. Thanks for the refresher.

Based on Newegg pricing for both, and the price protection guarantee on the 5600X, it is a no brainer to go X. Everyone knows "X gonna give it to ya!"

I broke down and bought one. All I need now is 6800XT/3080 cards for 20% less than MSRP so they can clear out their inventories and get next gen quicker.

 

[Captante]

I broke down and bought one. All I need now is 6800XT/3080 cards for 20% less than MSRP so they can clear out their inventories and get next gen quicker.

Don't hold your breath on the 4080 .... I was just reading that Nvidia may be delaying it's release until they can sell off the over-stocked 30-series chips they have left.

However if you're also considering AMD there are already some deals to be had although they still get snapped up pretty quickly! (especially on 6900XT's lately)

 

[dlerious]

Don't hold your breath on the 4080 .... I was just reading that Nvidia may be delaying it's release until they can sell off the over-stocked 30-series chips they have left.

However if you're also considering AMD there are already some deals to be had although they still get snapped up pretty quickly! (especially on 6900XT's lately)

Yeah, I just watched a PCBuilder video on GPU prices and he had the 6900XT at $799 while 6800XT was $759. I'd definitely go with a 6900XT if I had the funds, but around $650 is about as far as I want to go. I might end up grabbing a 6700XT if the price is right, but want a little more for 4K.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Yep.... my 5800x does 4.65g all-core & 4.95g single-core using only Zen master auto-OC. (running on a 360mm AIO)

Right now it's tough to find a 5600 non-X for significantly less then $175 so this chip for $175 (or the 12400f @ $155 but pricier MB) are the way to go for a cheapo gaming rig BUT if the 5600 non-X drops in price IT becomes the no-brainer. (the Ryzen 5500 is best avoided no matter the price)

AMD Ryzen 5 5600X vs Intel i5 12400f (userbenchmark)

Ugh that pricier motherboard part hurts. Had to drop $160 plus tax on an MSI Mortar B660m DDR4 to not throttle an i5 and have 6 SATA ports. Think I dropped $85 on a Z97 board back in 2014 on my previous build. But 5600x was $200 then and 12400F was $160.

 

[Hans Gruber]

More evidence my brain is toast. I now remember you posting that. Thanks for the refresher.

Based on Newegg pricing for both, and the price protection guarantee on the 5600X, it is a no brainer to go X. Everyone knows "X gonna give it to ya!"

At $175 for a 5600x, I agree that is a no brainer purchase. The question is what is the max OC speed of the 5600x. I know there are 5600x that run 4.8ghz all day with no problem. I think that may be the hard wall on either the 5600x or 5600.

 

[Macgyversite]

5600X will hit 4800 all day on some Bins. The ones that dont just have just one or two weak cores. Easy to figure out which ones but I did PBO since I have a X570 mobo. I like it compared to Max OC. Its great for less voltage and temps. I have the CPU doing +200mhz boost over ride per Youtube video tutorials. So 4800mhz and let the system decide what where and when.

 

[VirtualLarry]

AMD Ryzen 5 5600 - Ryzen 5 5000 Series Vermeer (Zen 3) 6-Core 3.5 GHz Socket AM4 65W Desktop Processor - 100-100000927BOX $159.99
+ $10 off w/ promo code W2BBU2637, limited offer

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[SteveGrabowski]

Clicked this thread somehow thinking it was RX 5600XT for $175 lol, that would have been nice.

 

[Macgyversite]

I have a back up gaming rig. It had a Ryzen 1600 in it that was my sons old CPU. I was putting it in a new case with a new CPU cooler. I bent some pins taking off the cooler(Stuck to the bottom) and one pin broke off straitening it back. My main rig has a 5600X on a MSI 570 with 32gb of Flare X B Die.

I opted for the 5600 at $150. Lets say this CPU is much better than my first series Bin 5600X. Running 4600 all core at 1.2v on a MSI 470 board. I have not tried much more since its a back up. But this system is super good now. 5600 is heads and tails better than that 1600.

As the reviews say. Just get the 5600 especially if you plan on OC'ing. That is unless you can get the 5600X for $175. Then its a toss up. $150 or $175. Amazing CPUs for the money paired with inexpensive AMD boards.

 

[gibster]

I have a back up gaming rig. It had a Ryzen 1600 in it that was my sons old CPU. I was putting it in a new case with a new CPU cooler. I bent some pins taking off the cooler(Stuck to the bottom) and one pin broke off straitening it back.

Ha, probably a $50 mistake, it happens. Now I always try to gently twist off the cooler from the CPU, i had a similar issue with a 3600 a while back before using the "twistoff" technique, but was thankfully able to bend the bent pins back without breaking them

 

[Macgyversite]

Ha, probably a $50 mistake, it happens. Now I always try to gently twist off the cooler from the CPU, i had a similar issue with a 3600 a while back before using the "twistoff" technique, but was thankfully able to bend the bent pins back without breaking them

Yeah I did twist but the upper heatsink clasp was still latched and my upper case fan was in the way. Some how crap happens. Besides for the money. Totally worth it. 5600 just crushes the 1600.

 

[Hans Gruber]

I got the 5600 @ $160, it's been as low as $144. It's on the B2 stepping. $175 for the "x" version this late in the game probably doesn't make any sense. The 5600 can OC beyond the stock 5600x 4.6ghz max boost clock.

I think if you are patient a 5600 or 5700x with a mobo combo may be coming in the next month or two. At the release of Zen 2. Newegg had fire sale prices on Zen+ 2600 and 2700 CPU's With B350/X370 as well as B450 and X470 nice motherboards.

The 5600 is a very nice upgrade over the 3600. 1080p gaming is where it shines but gives a good bump in fps in 1440p games. So if you have extra DDR4 sticks lying around. It may make sense to see what kind of fire sale deals pop up around Zen 4 release.

If you have anything Zen+ or earlier. The 5600 is a no brainer drop in. If you want the X processor, I say go for that as well.

 

[Macgyversite]

@Hans Gruber . Have you tried a given all core OC and tried less volts. Example. I am at 4600 all core and its still Cinebenching R23 at 1.15 volts on a big air cooler & MSI X470 board. I saw you had it at 4800 AC at CPUID 1.352 showing.

 

[Hans Gruber]

@Hans Gruber . Have you tried a given all core OC and tried less volts. Example. I am at 4600 all core and its still Cinebenching R23 at 1.15 volts on a big air cooler & MSI X470 board. I saw you had it at 4800 AC at CPUID 1.352 showing.

I have my doubts that anything below 1.30v would be stable at 4.7ghz. There is this wall with Ryzen processors. 4.7ghz is not the hard wall but 4.8ghz is basically the hard wall for stability. I take a set it and forget it approach. Once I find a stable clock speed, I stick with it. If I get phantom reboots or hangs. I look into the voltage and even memory timings and voltages.

I would rather use more energy to obtain higher stable clocks speeds on a desktop CPU than try to conserve energy. I lock my CPU into a 24x7 clock speed in my case 4.7ghz.

 

[Macgyversite]

I will keep experimenting with it.

4600 is totally stable at 1.16 on my 5600. I am happy with that as its my spare.

Any suggested sites for MSI boards ?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I will keep experimenting with it.

4600 is totally stable at 1.16 on my 5600. I am happy with that as its my spare.

Any suggested sites for MSI boards ?

I have bought a few direct from MSI on Ebay. Even the refurbs were indistinguishable from NIB. 6 month warranty on the refurbs, more than long enough to know if it is solid or not.

They have the B550 Tomahawk MAX for $140 shipped, and the B450 version for $90. The X570 PRO-A is decent buy at $110. https://www.ebay.com/itm/324412779391?epid=2310172418&hash=item4b88822b7f:g:16EAAOSw3rxf0qdX

Hit their store there up and see if anything works for you.

 

[Macgyversite]

Hit their store there up and see if anything works for you.

LOL. Whoops. I meant to type any suggested Forums for MSI boards for OC tips etc. Not much specific stuff here. I havent gotten much into forum specific OC things. Usually hit up Youtube for a quick tutorial.

BTW you are spot on with the 5600X in my main gaming rig. I was running it with the BIOS tweaked for PBO / Undervolting. I now have her at 4700 1.35v. She wont do 4750 or 4800 with any volts. Its a hard wall for sure. Def a weak core ? The bios has so many adjustments that Its up to experts at this point. Plus this is an early stepping I think.

5600X is now at 4700mhz 1.25v. I Just did a pass at Cinebench R23 12188pts . Memory is G skill Flare X B Die 3600mhz 1800IF 14,14,14. Ran CPUID Powermax for 15mins. Good enough for me. I still might go back to the cooler PBO bios adjustments.