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550 tons of yellowcake removed from iraq
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ProfJohn
I hope that was a joke.
What Bush was talking about was a scam by people with their own agenda, which Bush added to his own agenda.
I hope that was a joke.
What Bush was talking about was a scam by people with their own agenda, which Bush added to his own agenda.
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Actually Bush was quoting the English intelligence service. It may have changed by now but at the time the English believed that their report was correct. AND many people actually believe that Joe Wilson's trip actually proved that Iraq WAS up to no good, but in a way that Wilson totally missed.
If you dig around google enough you might find a story or two that explains how Wilson actually helped to prove that Iraq was up to no good. I think the basic idea was that Wilson found Iraq connections in places that made no sense which suggests that Iraq was trying to build a trade network. But it has been a few years since I read that story so I may have the details wrong.
Either way the details really don't matter. When we got into Baghdad one of Saddam's scientists showed us parts of the nuclear program that he was told to bury in his yard thus proving that Saddam intended to restart his nuke program the second he could get away with it.
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Many people thought it was bullshit on this board:
Posted By: heyheybooboo 11/09/2007 02:52 PM
"UNMOVIC had hundreds of inspectors in Iraq. Bush, Cheney, Powell, Rice, Tenet, Rums-Failed and Wolfie are all complicit in the BS. They cherry-picked intelligence to suit their agenda. Curveball? Chalabi? Yellowcake? It's all crap."
Posted By: LegendKiller Posted: 09/04/2007 08:35 PM
"Unless one can show that Bush was told there was no yellow cake and then goes and states there is yellow cake, you have incomptentence in the fact that Bush was prevented by being told there was no yellow cake...If you read the book Collusion, it's easy to see that the Yellowcake Memo was *known* prior to the speech, to be false."
Posted By: Stoneburner Posted: 10/02/2007 03:09 PM
"I'll never understand some people. THey'll swear OJ was guilty despite there being evidence otherwise but insist Bush is innocent of misleadery despite the following facts. The uranium yellowcake nonsense - people knew it was fake from the starts."
Posted By: Auric 12/22/2007 05:44 AM
"It's still hilarious they pulled out that old play again just recently vis a vis Iraq and the yellowcake threat. But hey, fool me once..."
Posted By: LegendKiller 10/11/2006 09:18 AM
"Yellowcake was a farce, Bush mis-attributed the "intelligence" to the US when in fact it was UK. We didn't corroborate it but took it as sworn word from a known liar. We cherry picked."
Posted By: heyheybooboo Posted: 10/08/2007 02:23
"You can always tell the disinformation when the Cons get their panties in a wad about The Biggest Lie: Yellow Cake"
Posted By: Stoneburner Posted: 10/08/2007 04:19
the reference to yellowcake from niger was removed BEFORE the state of the union from at least one other speech by the CIA. The damn thing was considered false at the time of the speech. There is no argument to be made on that point. And nothing from Wilson's trip "confirmed" the yellowcake rumor, that's another red herring some people keep throwing up."
Posted By: Craig234 Posted: 10/08/2007 05:05
"there was no real danger of the Iraqis being able to buy any on any 'black market'."
Posted By: Stoneburner Posted: 10/08/2007 08:09 PM
"Wilson was right about yellowcake...No need to keep ranting and raving, the conservative line on this topic is false on all points. "
How much more do you want?
So we invaded a country, wasted trillions, caused the deaths of tens of thousands, lost thousands of soldiers all because he at some point in the future would have started a nuke program? This is justification?
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To reiterate THIS YELLOWCAKE WAS KNOWN TO THE UN AND WAS BEING STORED IN IRAQ LEGALLY. To attempt to use this as some sort of justification is incredibly...incredibly dishonest.
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Should also add that this was not the African yellowcake that Dubbya used as partial justification to invade Iraq.
Y'know... just to be clear.
Ahh yes, the Yellowcake scandal.
Everybody knew Iraq had Yellowcake, the UN monitored it while it sat in a warehouse for decades. BFD?
No, what Bushy boy tried to claim was that Iraq approached Nigeria in 2001 to get *MORE* yellowcake, outside of the UN's oversight. Nigeria is one of the world's primary producers of yellowcake.
What was funny about the situation is that the situation was an outright fabrication, created by an Italian swindler to peddle influence in Europe. Anybody who looked at the yellowcake memo from the Italians would know that it was a blatant fake.
The fact of the matter is that the "swindler" (Who had been arrested many times, once for robbing a bank) had a girlfriend who broke into the Nigerian consulate, stole a memo, a stamp, and some paper, to create a forgery. The original base for the yellowcake memo was nothing more than an Iraqi ambassador's visit to negotiate a renewal of an Iraqi/Nigerian agreement to allow Iraq to dump garbage in Nigeria.
They used this base memo to create a ridiculous forgery rife with problems. Such as the referral to the incorrect ambassador, constitution, president, laws, and other situations. All of these inconsistancies were spotted by the Italian, French, and British services.
However, the CIA seized on the opportunity. They used "cross checking" with other agencies, all who said it was false, yet ignored that. They then brought it to one of the primary intelligence analysts in the US. He shot it down, said it was crap.
what did the CIA do? They said he was full of crap and essentially circumvented and ostracized him.
Bush, despite his underlings *KNOWING* it was crap and most likely, himself knowing it was crap, presented it as factual information.
That's all of the information.
I thought the CIA said procuring this type of material from Africa was an absolute untrustworthy intel. Obviously this is a bit old and obviously it probably came from outside of Iraq from somewhere. What do the Plumes have to say about it?
So where did the Iraqi's get the last batch from? I want to know who would sell Iraq this stuff, so we can keep an eye on them as supporters of terrorism.
So where did the Iraqi's get the last batch from? I want to know who would sell Iraq this stuff, so we can keep an eye on them as supporters of terrorism.
If you actually read my post you'd see that it was from a completely untrustworthy piece of intel. RTFP.
Plumes?
Who cares where it got its last batch from. It got it *DECADES* ago and it was perfectly known.
What was at issue in 2001 was whether Saddam was trying to *RESTART* and *REACQUIRE* his nuclear program. Everybody on the planet knew what he had, everybody was worried about what he might be trying to get (or had already gotten outside of what was known)
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