520HX enough power for this?

xyberfighter

Junior Member
Sep 8, 2007
19
0
0
Just wondering if the corsair 520hx is good enough for this + future minor OCing, etc.

Q6600 OC'd @ 3.0 GHz
eVGA 8800 GTS 640mb
2 x 1gb DDR2 800 ram
Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 mobo
Seagate barracuda 320gb
WD Raptor 74gb
Dvd burner
Dvd drive
Floppy drive
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi
 

TriggerHappy101

Golden Member
Jan 13, 2005
1,006
0
0
Are you sure john? I am going to be building a rig just like his.
I will be OCing like mad (no water cooling though.)

Here is my setup:
Q6600 OC'ed @ 3.6 (Hopefully)
eVGA 8800gts 320mb OCed to the max.
2 x 1gb DD2 800 RAM (I want to get two more sticks down the road.)
GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3P
Seagate Barracuda 320GB
DVD Burner
Creative Audigy Soundcard
Thermaltake Ultra 120 Extreme w/ TWO 120mm High performance fans
COOLER MASTER RC-690 Case. w/ 6 high performance 120mm fans and 1 - 80mm LED fan.

Is 520hx enough head room for OCing and future upgrades?? The corsair 620HX sells for $116 AR free shipping on zipzoomfly.com

Should I just get that one?

Or!

I can get this:

Thermaltake Toughpower Cable Management 700W Power
http://www.newegg.com/product/...p?item=N82E16817153039
For $120 shipped. (30 dollars off when I purchase my video card with it.)

Thanks!
 

John

Moderator Emeritus<br>Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
33,944
4
81
I'm positive. Your Q6600 @ 3.6 1.45V (estimated voltage you'll need) will pull around 200W, and an o/c'ed 8800GTS pulls a max of 150W since it only has a single PCIe connector. Overall you'll be lucky to pull 400W from the psu under a massive load which is a ~77% load. The Q6600 @ 3.0 default voltage will consume around 80W less. However if you can afford to spend the extra $30 for the HX620, which is only $110 AR @ ClubIT, then by all means do it!
 

TriggerHappy101

Golden Member
Jan 13, 2005
1,006
0
0
So your saying the 520 will be plenty fine?

If I can save $30 and have the 520 be more than enough - Ill go with that. But if its sorta borderline - ill go with the 640....?
 

Fullmetal Chocobo

Moderator<br>Distributed Computing
Moderator
May 13, 2003
13,704
7
81
All of this pulling ~350 watts out of the wall. :)

Lian Li G70b case
Corsair HX620w PSU
Supermicro 5-in-3 SATA enclosure
Asus P5N32-E SLI Plus
Intel Core 2 Duo E6400
Thermalright SI-128
2gb (1gb x 2) OCZ PC2-7200 900MHz DDR2
BFG Tech 8800 GTS
Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer
Areca ARC-1220 PCIe 8-port RAID controller
4 x Western Digital 400gb RE2 (RAID 5)
2 x Western Digital 150gb Raptor
Western Digital 74gb Raptor
LiteOn 16X SATA DVD-R
Logitech G15 keyboard
Logitech G5 mouse
2 x ViewSonic VX922 19" LCD
3 x Sanyo Denki 120x38mm fans
1 x Delta Triple Blade 120x38mm fan
1 x Delta Triple Blade 120x25mm fan
 

chewietobbacca

Senior member
Jun 10, 2007
291
0
0
I've got a:
8800 Ultra
3.15 GHz Quad Core (at 1.35 V)
4 x 1 GB DDR2 Crucial Ballistix 1066
Raptor X
Seagate 500GB

And tons of fans and fan controllers

And I pull 340 W out of the wall on load, which after 80% efficiency, is less than 50% of my 620HX's capability.

Trust me, you'll be fine with the 520HX.
 

myocardia

Diamond Member
Jun 21, 2003
9,291
30
91
Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
All of this on a Corsair 620w PSU pulling ~350 watts out of the wall. :)

Lian Li G70b case
Corsair HX620w PSU
Supermicro 5-in-3 SATA enclosure
Asus P5N32-E SLI Plus
Intel Core 2 Duo E6400
Thermalright SI-128
2gb (1gb x 2) OCZ PC2-7200 900MHz DDR2
BFG Tech 8800 GTS
Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer
Areca ARC-1220 PCIe 8-port RAID controller
4 x Western Digital 400gb RE2 (RAID 5)
2 x Western Digital 150gb Raptor
Western Digital 74gb Raptor
LiteOn 16X SATA DVD-R
Logitech G15 keyboard
Logitech G5 mouse
2 x ViewSonic VX922 19" LCD
3 x Sanyo Denki 120x38mm fans
1 x Delta Triple Blade 120x38mm fan
1 x Delta Triple Blade 120x25mm fan

????:confused: If you're powering those LCD's from your ATX psu, you absolutely have too much time on your hands.
 

Fullmetal Chocobo

Moderator<br>Distributed Computing
Moderator
May 13, 2003
13,704
7
81
Originally posted by: myocardia
Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
All of this on a Corsair 620w PSU pulling ~350 watts out of the wall. :)

Lian Li G70b case
Corsair HX620w PSU
Supermicro 5-in-3 SATA enclosure
Asus P5N32-E SLI Plus
Intel Core 2 Duo E6400
Thermalright SI-128
2gb (1gb x 2) OCZ PC2-7200 900MHz DDR2
BFG Tech 8800 GTS
Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer
Areca ARC-1220 PCIe 8-port RAID controller
4 x Western Digital 400gb RE2 (RAID 5)
2 x Western Digital 150gb Raptor
Western Digital 74gb Raptor
LiteOn 16X SATA DVD-R
Logitech G15 keyboard
Logitech G5 mouse
2 x ViewSonic VX922 19" LCD
3 x Sanyo Denki 120x38mm fans
1 x Delta Triple Blade 120x38mm fan
1 x Delta Triple Blade 120x25mm fan

????:confused: If you're powering those LCD's from your ATX psu, you absolutely have too much time on your hands.

I edited the list. I wonder if that would be possible though? Run two +12v lines from the PSU to an UPS hardwired to the battery input. Let the UPS do the AC -> DC conversion. :)
 

alcoholbob

Diamond Member
May 24, 2005
6,387
465
126
xyberfighter, your system draws under 370W at full load. If you had an OCed 8800 Ultra instead, you might push that to 410W at most. If you stick to a non-SLI there's pretty much no way you are going to strain that HX520 (about 510W with dual 8800 Ultra SLI)...unless you plan on gaming at 105 degrees F.

The PSU, if it lives, is future proof, since every miniaturization tends reduce power consumption. If you stick to single card-based PC you could use that PSU for several years...of course eventually you'll have to replace it as high-powered PSUs don't tend to age too well =)
 

JEDIYoda

Lifer
Jul 13, 2005
33,986
3,321
126
Originally posted by: Astrallite
xyberfighter, your system draws under 370W at full load. If you had an OCed 8800 Ultra instead, you might push that to 410W at most. If you stick to a non-SLI there's pretty much no way you are going to strain that HX520 (about 510W with dual 8800 Ultra SLI)...unless you plan on gaming at 105 degrees F.

The PSU, if it lives, is future proof, since every miniaturization tends reduce power consumption. If you stick to single card-based PC you could use that PSU for several years...of course eventually you'll have to replace it as high-powered PSUs don't tend to age too well =)

"of course eventually you'll have to replace it as high-powered PSUs don't tend to age too well"

Links please--- or is this just personnal opinion with no hard concrete facts to back up this statement?

Peace-- inquiring minds wish to be enlightened...
 

aigomorla

CPU, Cases&Cooling Mod PC Gaming Mod Elite Member
Super Moderator
Sep 28, 2005
21,067
3,574
126
go with the most stable, and largest psu in your budget.

Thats always been my motto in overclocking quads.

On my quads:

4.05ghz ES Q6600 G0 -> Antec Quattro 850W <still playing with her on WCG> Techincally is my secondary main rig.
3.75ghz X3220 B3 -> Antec Quattro 850W
3.73ghz Q6600 G0 -> PCnC Silencer 750
3.6ghz Q6600 B3 -> Silverstone Zeus 700W
3.2ghz X3210 B3 -> Corsair 620HX


Those are the psu's i use in my quad farm.

Also you'll need water or a monster air cooler to get that overclock even on a G0.

3.6ghz overclock AINT easy even on a G0. I dont know why everyone thinks its a simple plug and play OC. Overclocking never is plug and play at 3.6ghz
 

alcoholbob

Diamond Member
May 24, 2005
6,387
465
126
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Links please--- or is this just personnal opinion with no hard concrete facts to back up this statement?

Peace-- inquiring minds wish to be enlightened...

Well fact and opinion don't have to be mutually exclusive, but there is a reason why electronics are rated for a certain amount of operating hours.

Besides, do you have link that the opposite is true? Just saying..
 

MDE

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
13,199
1
81
I'm running a Q6600 @ 3.2GHz, X1900XT, 2 HDDs, 2 TV tuners, etc... on a 500W Seasonic (basically the same innards as the Corsair, just not modular) with no problems at all. Don't be fixated on wattage numbers, get the PSU with the highest 12V rail you can afford.
 

NXIL

Senior member
Apr 14, 2005
774
0
0
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: Astrallite
xyberfighter, your system draws under 370W at full load. If you had an OCed 8800 Ultra instead, you might push that to 410W at most. If you stick to a non-SLI there's pretty much no way you are going to strain that HX520 (about 510W with dual 8800 Ultra SLI)...unless you plan on gaming at 105 degrees F.

The PSU, if it lives, is future proof, since every miniaturization tends reduce power consumption. If you stick to single card-based PC you could use that PSU for several years...of course eventually you'll have to replace it as high-powered PSUs don't tend to age too well =)

"of course eventually you'll have to replace it as high-powered PSUs don't tend to age too well"

Links please--- or is this just personnal opinion with no hard concrete facts to back up this statement?
.

http://www.electronicproducts....leName=marasi1.mar2001

Reliability

A factor often misunderstood is the expected product life of a power supply. While many factors--such as the average load rate, vibration, and ambient temperature--affect the life of a power supply, a key issue is the amount of heat generated by the internal components. [High power = high heat]

Since power supply manufacturers do not know the end-use conditions, their only recourse is to provide the calculated mean time between failure (MTBF) of the power supply, which, in every case, is limited by the MTBF of the internal electrolytic capacitors. While the power supply, excluding the capacitor, may have a calculated MTBF of 100,000 hours or more, electrolytic capacitors typically have an MTBF of just 30,000 hours.

Since some manufacturers have developed their own proprietary calculations for MTBF that produce higher values, it is best to compare only using the MTBF as defined in MIL-HDBK-217E. This is a widely accepted, proven, and verifiable calculation.

Another important consideration when evaluating a published product life is whether or not the power supply was rated at its full load. At less than its full load and with continuous operation, a power supply will likely operate cooler and have no thermal cycling, yielding a much longer life. With all of these contributing factors, the specifying engineer is best advised to rely on the MIL-HDBK-217E method for verifying the MTBF values as long as the engineer recognizes that they also do not account for the short life of the electrolytic capacitors.

http://www.relex.com/resources/prmodels.asp

http://books.google.com/books?...BoHhzarvAYNeu55wV3N-_Q

Note the capacitor aging factor in this power supply calculator, footnote 4:

http://www.extreme.outervision.../psucalculatorlite.jsp

Note: plugging in your gear, making some guesses about fans, etc, and a mild overclock, 30% capacitor aging: 560W

20: 515W

Personally, I would go for the 620W Corsair....

Or, one of these: power efficient, headroom....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...1025%2CN82E16817151036

Like MDE, I like Seasonic (Corsair 620 is made by Seasonic I think....)

Hmm, a new Corsair 550, to split the difference?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...yCodeValue=1315%3A9966

I personally do NOT like modular cables--one more thing to come loose?--so I would go for the new 550....not modular.

Or this: I have always liked PCPowerCooling units:

http://www.pcpower.com/product...roduct.php?show=S61EPS

And, as with all electronics, heat is the enemy:

http://www.pcpower.com/technology/optemps/

The life of an electronic device is directly related to its operating temperature. Each 10°C (18°F) temperature rise reduces component life by 50%*. Therefore, it is recommended that computer components be kept as cool as possible (within an acceptable noise level) for maximum reliability, longevity, and return on investment.

* Based on the Arrhenius equation, which says that time to failure is a function of e-Ea/kT where Ea = activation energy of the failure mechanism being accelerated, k = Boltzmann's constant, and T = absolute temperature.

HTH

NXIL

PS: to Xyber: why the p965 chipset motherboard? Looks like P35 is the way to go from what I read.....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...8059%2CN82E16813128050

HTH!



 

maluckey

Platinum Member
Jan 31, 2003
2,933
0
71
NXIL

Good post; good info. Too bad most (but not all) people add up watts and forget that they have +3.3 and +5.0 as well as the +12v to feed. They don't care about transients or cross loading and almost never bother to figure out how the PSU is rated. They stick it in a hot case, plug in five HDD, seven fans with lights, five USB devises, external speakers, water cooling and neon glow case lighting and then try to OC the hell out of it and wonder why the PSU fails every 10-12 months.

You're apparently new here...just wait and see.