512 or a GIG that is the question

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Metron

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Poppyq,

While it may be semantically true that most home users don't need 1 Gigabyte of RAM, the quality of many large multi-user online games with high end graphics (and maybe others) suffer dramatically if sufficient RAM isn't available. Making sweeping generalizations that home users don't actually "need" that much is technically true, but false when viewed from the perspective of enjoyable playability and competitive advantage.

I need at least 700 Mb of RAM to play my favorite game, Anarchy Online/Shadowlands, and I actually run 1.5 Gigabytes with no disk swap. I bought 512 Mb, found it to be lacking, so I bought another 1 Gb. The entry/exit times from all games markedly improved.

Bear in mind the 700 Mb is just for the game executable itself, not any other applications I usually run in order to "play" the game. I typically have a web brower playing Rubi-Ka GridStream Radio running (www.gridstream.com... live "broadcasts" from DJ players from in-game nightclubs and parties). I'll have ClickSaver running (an application used to find missions in game). I'll also be running NanoNanny, which is another application used to configure implants. When I was running with only 512 Mb, I was unable to task switch (Alt - Tab) among those applications in real time. Oh sure... I could press Alt-Tab and have my system hang while I wait countless seconds for my AO game image to write out from RAM memory to disk, and then load the desired application. However, in the middle of a game with people on my team waiting for me to pull a mission while I try to use ClickSaver, this was totally unacceptable.

I also play PlanetSide, another online multi-user game. I'm also always running Ventrilo, in order to voice chat with other members in my sqaud/platoon. In summary, the additional RAM makes the game more enjoyable by eliminating frustrating delays and crashes caused by a lack of sufficient RAM.

To BlindBartimaeus,
I would suggest that it depends upon what applications you use for your system, and to some extent the operating system under which you're running. If you're running Word, Excel and Quicken under Windows 98SE, you're probably just fine with 512 Mb of RAM. However, if you're a gamer trying to gain every advantage by utilizing your hardware for the fullest competitive advantage, I would suggest you get as much RAM as you need.

Metron
 

BlindBartimaeus

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Metron...That is me...I play CS competitively, and really do look for every advantage.

I think it is an overwhelming decision....1 Gig it is...Thanks guys
 

THUGSROOK

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Originally posted by: compudog
Through all of this you never mentioned what OS or other hardware you are running. I can draw that you are running a dual-channel board, so it's fairly recent hardware. Win2K/XP does perform marginally better with more RAM and games do load and run faster with more mem. Win 98 will run with 1 gig of RAM as THUGSROOK pointed out. Check it out here.

Go for the gig either way.
good point compudog!
...i wouldnt have gone thru all the trouble of getting (and testing/tweeking) 1gig to work in Win9x if it wasnt worth it :D
 

RSanders

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I have 256MB of Ram (PC2700 DDR) and I am adding 512MB... I can't wait. If I was you.. I would just get a gig.. why not you know? That is if you have the money.
 

Sunner

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Originally posted by: BlindBartimaeus
Metron...That is me...I play CS competitively, and really do look for every advantage.

I think it is an overwhelming decision....1 Gig it is...Thanks guys

1 gig for CS...what do you do with that? Run 4 sessions at once to get an edge? ;)
 

BlindBartimaeus

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I was just replying to the other guy that if there was one...I would like it (advantage that is). Obviously by asking the question in the first place I am not as smart as most of you guys, so don't continually point out how stupid I am...thanks it is not very polite, and I don't think you Mom raised you that way...OK?
 

Auric

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Assuming Windows 5.x, open Task Manager -> Performance tab and note the Commit Charge. If the peak ever exceeds Physical Memory then paging between the memory and HDD has been necessary. It is up to you to judge how detrimental this is depending on useage and noticeable effects. The effects of paging can be reduced with a fast HDD, but not eliminated. BF1942 does not require 1GB RAM, but mods like DesertCombat and Forgotten Hope with gobs of additional data do need almost 800MB (including typical Windows useage) to eliminate the inherent jerkiness resulting from paging. Load times will likewise be reduced but of course are still dependent on the speed of the HDD.