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51 unaccounted for after deadly high-rise collapse in Florida

purbeast0

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Heard some guy talking about how he was out walking his dog when it happened and he went over to check it out and heard a kid. Told the kid to move and saw his hand stick up and he went and rescued him with another guy.

He said the kid had his bed on top of him, so clearly he was sleeping. I wonder how many other people were sleeping to wake up to that.

Crazy stuff. I'm really curious to hear what the cause will be.
 
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bbhaag

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Heard about it on the news this morning on the drive to work but this is the first pic I've seen.....just crazy.
 

Captante

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damn. it's like dynamite or bomb went off.
That pic reminds me of the Federal building in Oklahoma. :eek:
(Tim McVey)

A survivor (in Fla) was quoted saying: "it was the loudest thing I've ever heard".... weird for a "collapse".


EDIT: Also if built in 1981 is accurate then this place would have been designed back before Florida supposedly tightened up zoning and construction laws to require storm-safe buildings.
 
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purbeast0

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This is how much of the building, built in 1981, collapsed.

Holy shit I thought it was like just the edge of one side of the building, like partially collapsed 1/2 of a few units where the balcony part was.

If it's that large of a part, I'm shocked it's only 51 people unaccounted for.
 
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Hans Gruber

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I was watching the news this morning. I think everybody thought that just a sliver of the building collapsed including me. Then the surveillance video popped up and half the building went down. What is even crazier is that CNN showed rescue workers with dogs walking under the still standing section at the garage level.

Here is a unit for sale in the building.
 
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allisolm

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From what I've read this is a luxe place with apartments from $600,000 - $700,000 for a 2 bedroom up to $2,800,000 for a 4 bedroom penthouse. You can bet they'll be investigations up the wazoo.
 

herm0016

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someone did say there was construction going on in the building. I wonder if that has anything to do with it. This will be a case study in failures class for engineers for sure.
 
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The section on the right of the "L" is the entirely collapsed part of the building. (Building to look at is far left of the picture)
 

allisolm

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someone did say there was construction going on in the building. I wonder if that has anything to do with it. This will be a case study in failures class for engineers for sure.
From what I read they were preparing for the 40 yr mandatory examination.

"County inspectors were reviewing the 40-year-old building, Ciraldo said. According to the Miami-Dade County building code, all residential buildings are required to undergo a re-certification process when they hit 40 years. The process includes inspections to ensure the building is habitable and safe."

“The building was in okay shape,” said Madeleine Romanello, a Realtor with Compass who has multiple listings in the building. “They were just starting repairs to upgrade.”

 

Captante

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The building was in okay shape,” said Madeleine Romanello, a Realtor with Compass who has multiple listings in the building. “They were just starting repairs to upgrade.”
Sounds like somebody is going to be looking for a new job! :confused:

(unless this was an intentional act of some kind)
 
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Captante

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Are sinkholes present in places that close to the ocean?

A lot of places in Florida don't have much in the way of bedrock down below and the farther back they were built the less likely they were to have even checked with any degree of accuracy.

In Cali for example they've learned that land can "liquify" (like sand) in an earthquake and now design buildings to "float" on it in a sense when they strike.

How likely do you suppose it is they were that careful in FLORIDUH pre-1981? (earthquakes not really an issue in Fla but building on sand certainly is and that place is right by a beach)
 
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Red Squirrel

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That's insane. Reminds me of that mall collapse in China many years ago, was due to the builder cutting corners last minute to save money.

Wonder if this will be determined to be something similar or just a freak accident due to natural causes.

Really sucks either way for those affected.
 
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dullard

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Are sinkholes present in places that close to the ocean?
I really don't know anything about sinkholes. From this link, it looks like that location is in the green Area II (2nd most likely type of land to have a sinkhole in Florida). Area II definition in the link: "Sinkholes are few, shallow, of small diameter and develop gradually."

The map shows that there have been a few reported sinkholes a bit north of there in the North Miami Beach area.
 

Captante

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(Ok City bombing aftermath)


:oops: hmmmm....



(Fla Apartment building collapse)


Obviously far less of the building was vaporized in the current disaster so it wasn't anything on the scale of a fertilizer-bomb in a truck at least.
 
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