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500 Palestinian deaths in the last 12 days?

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Jenin Hospital has 52 bodies so far with more suspected under rubble the size of two football fields

How many firefighters did we recover from the rubble at WTC, alot. There are probably some still missing as well

From your link b0mbrman:
In the Gaza Strip (news - web sites), meanwhile, four Palestinians were killed by Israeli fire, including a 2-year-old girl. In the West Bank town of Bethlehem, an 11-year-old Palestinian boy was killed and two other youngsters were critically wounded in a mysterious explosion near a Palestinian police station. The army said it was investigating the blast.

I bet they were throwing rocks again...tsk tsk
 
You can't even make that comparison... the WTC collapsed into a 200 foot deep hole in the ground. The buildings in Jennin were typicall small structures. Bodies that have been sitting under rubble for a couple of weeks are going to start to seriously stink, or otherwise make themselves known.

They might find more bodies, the Isreali's might have moved a few... but it's looking less and less like some "big cover-up" every day.
 


<< From your link b0mbrman:
In the Gaza Strip (news - web sites), meanwhile, four Palestinians were killed by Israeli fire, including a 2-year-old girl. In the West Bank town of Bethlehem, an 11-year-old Palestinian boy was killed and two other youngsters were critically wounded in a mysterious explosion near a Palestinian police station. The army said it was investigating the blast.

I bet they were throwing rocks again...tsk tsk >>


The article tells us that she was killed in an exchange of fire after Palestinians did a bomb attack on IDF troops, right?

And wait a second...are you trying to blame the "mysterious explosion" on the IDF? If the IDF shot a tank round, there'd be no "mystery" about where the "explosion" came from...

[edit] Furthermore, how did I just get suckered into veering away from the main discussion? 😛🙂
 


<< How many firefighters did we recover from the rubble at WTC, alot. There are probably some still missing as well >>


Probably not. The people on the ground reported no one digging through the rubble. Most telling of all is the lack of smells coming from the demolished structures. The WTC stank to high heaven starting day three and stayed that way for about three months.
Also, the Israelis announced on loudspeakers their intentions and ordered to leave the area long before the shooting started. Anybody left behind was either a terrorist or used as a human shield by the terrorists.
 


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<< How many firefighters did we recover from the rubble at WTC, alot. There are probably some still missing as well >>


Probably not. The people on the ground reported no one digging through the rubble. Most telling of all is the lack of smells coming from the demolished structures. The WTC stank to high heaven starting day three and stayed that way for about three months.
Also, the Israelis announced on loudspeakers their intentions and ordered to leave the area long before the shooting started. Anybody left behind was either a terrorist or used as a human shield by the terrorists. >>



I hope they don't find anymore dead Palestinians. I suspect that they will find perhaps a dozen more..The 500 number is way inflated..the number is probably under 100 even. I've even heard reports that some of the terrorists were angry because some of the residents of Jenin sold out in telling the IDF which houses were booby trapped and all.

If I were an Israeli I would be paranoid as all heck because of the suicide bombings..You can see a killer pull a gun or knife on you, but not push a button underneath their clothes. So I realize that mistakes will happen.

If their was no massacre like Palestine is claiming, maybe that will force their hand in to signing a treaty, crosses fingers. After the they sign the treaty they become a state and thus they state would be liable if anything else were to happen. This might bring about a peace, which we all want anyways...
 


<< I bet they were throwing rocks again...tsk tsk >>



Definately a pro-Israel and "balanced" uneducated guess.
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Well, you were almost right about one thing......someone's mouth keeps shooting someone's credibility in the foot. LOL
 

and now to wonder how much coverage Al Jaazera is going to give this new information😛 no blood and violence against poor poor palestinians to show and rile up the arab masses aww...

i'll bet they'll just do personal peices on each of the 50 palestinians grumble.
 
I would like more than anything to see an Israeli pullout and the creation of a Palistinean state. The sad thing is, everyone in power knows that the creation of a Palistinean state is not going to stop groups like Hamas from continuing attacks on Isreal.

The only thing that will make them happy is the complete destruction of the Israeli state. Now how do you make peace with those politics?
 


<< I would like more than anything to see an Israeli pullout and the creation of a Palistinean state. The sad thing is, everyone in power knows that the creation of a Palistinean state is not going to stop groups like Hamas from continuing attacks on Isreal.

The only thing that will make them happy is the complete destruction of the Israeli state. Now how do you make peace with those politics? >>



Let's create the state then and when Palestine sends another suicide bomber, than they have violated the treaty and will get wiped out. They will have no excuse then. Draw up the agreement, bring them into the UN, and have in the treaty that any violation of this treaty would result in the other Nation having the full assistance of Nato to crush and conquer the other until any and all resistance is wiped out.

Just make it equal for both sides is all I ask...
 
uhmmm... making it equal for both sides would require giving the Palistineans tanks and nukes... and when they are all so eager to run around detonating themselves, I think that is a very bad idea.

Everyone says, make Palistine a state, and then when the F*ck up then Isreali forces are justified in retaliation... sadly, it won't work this way... the international community will try to tie Isreal's hands with sanctions, etc, and prevent them from defending themselves.
 


<< uhmmm... making it equal for both sides would require giving the Palistineans tanks and nukes >>



uhhmmm...NO, that would be like giving a loaded gun to a kid and sending them outside to play cowboys and indians.

I mean't both sides of the treaty should be equal..If Israel uses guns, nukes, helicopters, etc on Palestine than they are basically destroyed by the UN and vice versa on Palestine except replace it with guns, bombs, rocks or whatever then they will be destroyed.

Call it Cold War #2, Guaranteed destruction is a helluva motivational factor
 
You know what's really sad is you folks who sit here and excuse and justify every single time someone mentions a palestinian death.

Sure, when palestinians shoot up 4 people including a girl it's headlines. but IDF does it and you are FULL of excuses, you people make me sick. war this war that oops it happens its ok.. HEY.. it was probably friendly fire!

that last one is new, unbelievable.

media isn't helping though. Israelis dying makes headlines on the front page, but for a palestinian dying, all they get is a small blurb in the middle of a sentence from an israel based article.



<< In another development, Palestinian sources said Israeli tanks and troops moved about 100 yards into the Rafah refugee camp in southern Gaza early Wednesday morning and shelled at least one house. Two people were killed, including a Palestinian man and a 2-year-old girl, and four people were injured, the sources said. The IDF had no comment. >>



watch, you're going to have people complain that they're lying, and that it's bias..
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..just like that picture posted earlier. ..you folks need to realize that innocent people dying is NEVER justified, EVER. WE as humans create wars, that doesn't automatically make it okay for people to die who 'got in the way'..
 
Last time I checked the Palistinean terrorists were actively targeting civilians, including women, children, and the elderly.

Last time I checked the IDF was going out of it's way to avoid large scale civilian casualties, including calling their enemies and telling them to vacate areas before launching attacks (as when they launched gunship attacks last year flattening several PLO installations).

I should also point out that on two occassions the PLO was offered a peace treaty and the creation of a Palistinean State, but refused it, because of "unaccepteable terms"... the problem is that the terrorists who really run Palistine aren't interested in peace with Israel.
 
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