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50+ year-old woman kills attacker in self-defense

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Hal you have to ask yourself; if someone breaks into your place and tries to rape you, and you somehow manage to get your hands on a gun are you going to waste valuable seconds debating the morality of pulling the trigger, or are you going to save your self from being sodomized and potentially murdered?
 
You have admitted that according to you, logically, that you would rather the woman be raped than the rapist killed. You HAVE said exactly that.

You are a piece of shit. I know a rape victim, and what you said makes my blood boil. I'd like to tell you how I really feel, but the mods would just slap me with my 17th 30-day ban and let you run around hogwild. So I'll hold my tongue.

I have said that, good choice.

I don't care how you feel about me, there are more pressing issues in the world. I'm not a piece of shit, I'm a good person, I just believe in logic when it comes to morality and legality.
 
Hal you have to ask yourself; if someone breaks into your place and tries to rape you, and you somehow manage to get your hands on a gun are you going to waste valuable seconds debating the morality of pulling the trigger, or are you going to save your self from being sodomized and potentially murdered?

He would let them sodomize him, he likes dick up his ass. He has said so.
 
Hal you have to ask yourself; if someone breaks into your place and tries to rape you, and you somehow manage to get your hands on a gun are you going to waste valuable seconds debating the morality of pulling the trigger, or are you going to save your self from being sodomized and potentially murdered?

I doubt I'd sit there and do the mental calculations required to make an informed decision, I'd do my best to make the right decision in the matter of seconds I had, but it's hard to say what I'd do in that situation as I've never been in one. Given that I'm quite an emotionally driven person I'd probably make an assumption, fear for my family and kill the guy, which IMO would be the wrong thing to do, but given that instinct tends to take over in those situations (so I've heard) I imagine that, that's what I would do. I should then be arrested.
 
He would let them sodomize him, he likes dick up his ass. He has said so.

No I wouldn't... Also are you a homophobe? you do love bringing my sexuality into every discussion I'm ever in, so either your a homophobe or you want to fuck me, if that's the case PM me and leave it out of the threads.

I doubt I'd sit there and do the mental calculations required to make an informed decision, I'd do my best to make the right decision in the matter of seconds I had, but it's hard to say what I'd do in that situation as I've never been in one. Given that I'm quite an emotionally driven person I'd probably make an assumption, fear for my family and kill the guy, which IMO would be the wrong thing to do, but given that instinct tends to take over in those situations (so I've heard) I imagine that, that's what I would do. I should then be arrested.
 
I doubt I'd sit there and do the mental calculations required to make an informed decision, I'd do my best to make the right decision in the matter of seconds I had, but it's hard to say what I'd do in that situation as I've never been in one. Given that I'm quite an emotionally driven person I'd probably make an assumption, fear for my family and kill the guy, which IMO would be the wrong thing to do, but given that instinct tends to take over in those situations (so I've heard) I imagine that, that's what I would do. I should then be arrested.

Arrested maybe if there was some doubt that what happened was in self defense, but in this case there was no doubt. There is nothing morally, or legally wrong about what the woman did. She saved herself from being sexually assaulted, and potentially murdered. She had a split second to make a decision and she made the right one.
 
Arrested maybe if there was some doubt that what happened was in self defense, but in this case there was no doubt. There is nothing morally, or legally wrong about what the woman did. She saved herself from being sexually assaulted, and potentially murdered. She had a split second to make a decision and she made the right one.

Well I disagree, purely based on this word.
 
Well I disagree, purely based on this word.

How can you? The woman had no idea whether or not she would be murdered, so she had to make a decision based on the assumption she would be. And even without the threat of murder, the threat of rape alone is enough to justify killing the guy. If you knew anyone who's been raped, or even molested you would understand why.
 
I doubt I'd sit there and do the mental calculations required to make an informed decision, I'd do my best to make the right decision in the matter of seconds I had, but it's hard to say what I'd do in that situation as I've never been in one. Given that I'm quite an emotionally driven person I'd probably make an assumption, fear for my family and kill the guy, which IMO would be the wrong thing to do, but given that instinct tends to take over in those situations (so I've heard) I imagine that, that's what I would do. I should then be arrested.

You believe you should be arrested for defending your family? You truly are a fucktard. But, I don't blame you, I blame the nanny-state, woosy-ass British government that has brainwashed you all into simpletons.
 
Well I disagree, purely based on this word.

I think we've discussed this before, but I'll say it again. When criminals invade your home, you are free to sit down and have tea and crumpets and pick their brains about what potentially may be their intentions. But she didn't, she chose life, a valid choice. One in which she acted within her rights. Your opinion is just that, an opinion.
 
How can you? The woman had no idea whether or not she would be murdered

Because of this

so she had to make a decision based on the assumption she would be.

And this.

And even without the threat of murder, the threat of rape alone is enough to justify killing the guy. If you knew anyone who's been raped, or even molested you would understand why.

This i disagree with, logically I don't believe that is worth the death penalty, whether I know someone who has been raped or not won't change the logic, just my emotionally response, emotionally I think rapists should have their testicles removed, fed to them then they should be slowly skinned alive until they bleed out. But I don't base my morality on emotions.

You believe you should be arrested for defending your family? You truly are a fucktard. But, I don't blame you, I blame the nanny-state, woosy-ass British government that has brainwashed you all into simpletons.

Was there something in this post you wanted me to respond to or are you just venting because I disagree with you?
 
I doubt I'd sit there and do the mental calculations required to make an informed decision, I'd do my best to make the right decision in the matter of seconds I had, but it's hard to say what I'd do in that situation as I've never been in one. Given that I'm quite an emotionally driven person I'd probably make an assumption, fear for my family and kill the guy, which IMO would be the wrong thing to do, but given that instinct tends to take over in those situations (so I've heard) I imagine that, that's what I would do. I should then be arrested.

The mental calculations required takes no time at all...my life/families life & well being>criminals life=dead criminal

Now in your morally bankrupt mind you don't value your families and friends lives more than a criminal so you just let them take it however it happens...hence you say a woman should be raped instead of the rapists getting killed

Someone should come to your home, beat you half to death, rape your mother/fiance, and steal all your icrap...then you might know a different perspective, if you lived that is, because once they were done with all that they might just decide to light the place on fire on the way out like they did here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheshire,_Connecticut,_home_invasion_murders
 
Holy Shit! This guy needs to make a trip to San Quentin with an economy sized pack of soap. In fact, let's give him some "DOVE" so he can tweet while dropping it in front of a few inmates. Then we'll see if he changes his tune.
 
I think we've discussed this before, but I'll say it again. When criminals invade your home, you are free to sit down and have tea and crumpets and pick their brains about what potentially may be their intentions. But she didn't, she chose life, a valid choice. One in which she acted within her rights. Your opinion is just that, an opinion.

Of course it is, did you think I thought my opinion was some divine absolute fact, it's just an opinion, which I'm free to, you say she had the right, I disagree (morally) she may have had the legal right I don't believe she had the moral right.
 
In Neckderps world, the criminals are the victims, and the victims are the criminals. He's just that warped in the head.
 
The mental calculations required takes no time at all...my life/families life & well being>criminals life=dead criminal

The problem is you don't know that is on the table, you don't know the guy is planning to kill your family, you assume he is, that could be a faulty assumption, it could be right, but you don't know.

Now in your morally bankrupt mind you don't value your families and friends lives more than a criminal so you just let them take it however it happens...

I've not said that, in fact I've said the opposite.

Someone should come to your home, beat you half to death, rape your mother/fiance, and steal all your icrap...then you might know a different perspective, if you lived that is, because once they were done with all that they might just decide to light the place on fire on the way out like they did here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheshire,_Connecticut,_home_invasion_murders

Someone might, my logic would stay the same.

Holy Shit! This guy needs to make a trip to San Quentin with an economy sized pack of soap. In fact, let's give him some "DOVE" so he can tweet while dropping it in front of a few inmates. Then we'll see if he changes his tune.

I do actually use Dove soap!
 
Of course it is, did you think I thought my opinion was some divine absolute fact, it's just an opinion, which I'm free to, you say she had the right, I disagree (morally) she may have had the legal right I don't believe she had the moral right.

And he did not have the moral right to break and enter, attack her in the shower, or attempt rape at knife point. He lost his "moral rights" when he disregarded hers.
 
In Neckderps world, the criminals are the victims, and the victims are the criminals. He's just that warped in the head.

Neckderps?

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